OMG I just beat the crap out of some guy...

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Avon...I agree completely with what you are saying.

It's not just women who have crimes committed against them. It happens to men, too. It happens to little kids, old people, disabled people. You're right...no one gets involved or helps people anymore. That's why it's so damn easy for sick depraved b@stards to snatch kids, women and men (yeah, it happens to men, too), sexually assault them and kill them. These kinds of crimes didn't happen anywhere near as frequently when I was a kid as they do now. It happens because people just don't care about their fellow human beings anymore. Take Shasta and Dylan Groene for example. Joseph Duncan was seen multiple times with those kids. Their pictures were plastered all over everywhere. Had people cared enough to pay closer attention to the kids they saw around that little boy might still be alive. I wonder how many people thought they recognized those kids but decided they didn't want to get involved.
 

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Originally posted by Avon
I hope every woman hating fake DJ here who assumes the woman wanted or deserved to get hit, gets attacked by some guy twice their size while a bunch of people stand around watching saying that you probably had it coming.

Of course some women are in abusive relationships, and there's a risk of getting hurt if you get involved. And of course there may have been a better way to handle the situation (a girl I told the story to suggested confusing the guy by asking inane questions until he forgot what he was doing, haha), but the 'don't get involved' policy has it's dangers too. The main one being that criminals think they can get away with everything because people are too frightened to intervene. In a broader sense, society goes to crap if no one thinks that anything is their business. Personally I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees, but I guess that's AFC talk right?

I had my mobile phone stolen the other week (with all my naked hottie pics on it!), and I chased the guy shouting at passersby to stop thief. No one did anything, they watched me chase him when they could have at least slowed him down. Luckily some undercover cops saw the chase and caught him.

Maybe he had a knife? Oh, then here, have my phone mr criminal, please masturbate over my gfs nude photos, I don't want to get hurt.

Pussies.
It's one thing to "die on your feet than live on your knees" when your life is threatened.

But over a cell phone?
 

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I'm pretty sure a lot of guys would have done the same thing.

You get into a special state when a situation like this happens. You loose your mind, and act without really using your brain.

So, think about that before you judge him and keep telling how stupid it was to beat that guy up.

Why is this? Because the most of you people at this board never get your ass of the computer - into the real life. You know what? Iin real life, on the field, the strangest situations could happen - and when they do you'll realize that mistakes are made.

Sure you would have done this and that, by the book, DJ-style, to avoid a lack of confidence, or what the f-uck ever the reason might is.... But one day... yeah, one day... the same thing might happen to you - and when it happens there won't be any time for browsing the Sosuave Don Juan Bible, looking for answers.


Think about it.
 

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Originally posted by ego
I'm pretty sure a lot of guys would have done the same thing.

You get into a special state when a situation like this happens. You loose your mind, and act without really using your brain.

So, think about that before you judge him and keep telling how stupid it was to beat that guy up.

Why is this? Because the most of you people at this board never get your ass of the computer - into the real life. You know what? Iin real life, on the field, the strangest situations could happen - and when they do you'll realize that mistakes are made.

Sure you would have done this and that, by the book, DJ-style, to avoid a lack of confidence, or what the f-uck ever the reason might is.... But one day... yeah, one day... the same thing might happen to you - and when it happens there won't be any time for browsing the Sosuave Don Juan Bible, looking for answers.


Think about it.
No, most people can control their temper and emotions.

Not being able to do so is AFC behavior.

If you can't keep your emotions, ego and temper in check over some girl you don't even know, you certainly won't be able to do so when it comes to a girl you are attracted to.
 

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Getting yourself was the dumbest thing you ever done. Do you know the girl ? is she your Sister ? Mom ? cousin ? friend ?

NOOOOO :down:

Why the **** are you trying to be a hero ? Maybe they were fighting over drug money ? Maybe it was her brother or a cousin ? what do you know superstar ?

Dumb Dumb people

If I was there I wouldn't care ... I hope they kill each other !
 

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Originally posted by Tkman
Do you know the girl ? is she your Sister ? Mom ?

What if she were YOUR Mom or Sister...would you still have a problem with him intervening? I highly doubt it, and if you say otherwise you'd be lying through your teeth. In fact...if it were YOUR loved one you would be mad if no one tried to help them.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
would you still have a problem with him intervening?
Yes, no one in a sane mind would argue with a stranger/friend in an alley especialty if you are a women.

The idiot got charged and now has a nice record. The two strangers are properly back together.
 

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Originally posted by Avon
P*ssy. The big guy hit a woman. Keep telliing yourself how it's right to walk away.

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I would laugh and walk away !
 

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Originally posted by Tkman
Yes, no one in a sane mind would argue with a stranger/friend in an alley especialty if you are a women.

The idiot got charged and now has a nice record. The two strangers are properly back together.
Apparently you didn't read his description of what happened. The guy had the girl up against a wall and would NOT let her move. He was shoving her and he belted her in the face hard.

That doesn't sound to me like she skipped into the alley and backed herself into the wall.

And you know full well that if it was YOUR mother or sister in the same place as that girl that you would be glad that someone stepped in to stop an assault against them. In fact, you'd be downright angry if no one did step in.

Although it's stupid to try to date or get emotionally involved with a woman with an abusive boyfriend or husband...that is NOT the same thing as stopping a crime you see happening if you are able to do so. In fact, I think most of the guys who are bashing nishbuk for what he did are most likely looking at this as if he was trying to rescue the girl because he wanted her to fall for him. That's not what happened. He saw someone being assaulted who was at a big disadvantage and he stepped in to stop that crime. That's ALL he did. He wasn't trying to be her white knight...he just tried to do what he felt was the right thing to do.
 

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If you go back and kill him, I'll buy you a drink, but you have to show me his head first.
 

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dude dont be ashamed you did a good thing. He has no right to

hit his girl or any girl. so anyways good job man it sounds like you

kicked his ass.:) be proud or yourself.
 

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I recall a couple of cases of babies getting kidnapped by people desperate to have their own kids when I was young. But it wasn't until I was an adult that I began hearing news reports of kids being abducted, raped, tortured and killed. People just don't care about other people nowadays to the extent they used to care.
 

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Originally posted by avrilishot
He has no right to hit his girl or any girl.
Wake up buddy some girls as much as guys deserve to get hit once in a while and you shouldn't think otherwise. Why should we go more leniant on girls ? Have you ever deal with a psycho girl before ?

They maybe not stronger then some guys but I will bet you they have equal or even more evil mind then majoirty of us. I love it when girls at clubs try to act as if a I guy cant touch them due to there gender.

#1

I one had a girl push me in a busy club and made me spill my beer. She just looked at and smiled. I walked up to her face and spat on her face and I told her if she dares to touch me 'her and her friends will be whipped and dragged to the street for a beating of there lives". The ***** went off crying. I get kicked out.

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A girl walked up to me in a club after getting in a fight with her BF and slapped me ? wtf ? I grabbed her like stick and threw her at the wall. Which she fell and couldn't get up. Her AFC BF comes up to me and starts arguing with me, I gave him a punch in the face. I get kicked out.

Chumps + Feminist = AFC's
 

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Originally posted by Avon
Ha, yeah Stan Lee illustrated my point far better than I could.



You have a point, I'm not advocating reckless, life-endangering behaviour over trivial matters, and I'm not trying to sound macho either. I'm a peaceful guy, as nishbuk sounds to be, but as Kenny Roger's sang, 'sometimes you gotta fight when you're a man.'

And if you saw the photos I had on it you'd understand.


PM me the pics so I can get a better understanding.

:D
 

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Originally posted by Tkman
Wake up buddy some girls as much as guys deserve to get hit once in a while and you shouldn't think otherwise. Why should we go more leniant on girls ? Have you ever deal with a psycho girl before ?

They maybe not stronger then some guys but I will bet you they have equal or even more evil mind then majoirty of us. I love it when girls at clubs try to act as if a I guy cant touch them due to there gender.

#1

I one had a girl push me in a busy club and made me spill my beer. She just looked at and smiled. I walked up to her face and spat on her face and I told her if she dares to touch me 'her and her friends will be whipped and dragged to the street for a beating of there lives". The ***** went off crying. I get kicked out.

#2

A girl walked up to me in a club after getting in a fight with her BF and slapped me ? wtf ? I grabbed her like stick and threw her at the wall. Which she fell and couldn't get up. Her AFC BF comes up to me and starts arguing with me, I gave him a punch in the face. I get kicked out.

Chumps + Feminist = AFC's
If the club was busy she probably got bumped by someone else and accidentally bumped into you. I find it hard to believe that some girl just walked up to you and slapped you for no reason at all. Just based on your attitude on here you probably said or did something rude first.

So...how is spitting in someone's face who probably didn't even bump into you on purpose and throwing a girl against a wall so hard she couldn't get up off the floor any different from nishbuk getting mad and hitting the guy he saw hitting the girl? I'll tell you how it's different...he was going to the aid of someone who was weaker and more vulnerable where you were going after someone who was weaker and more vulnerable. It's not difficult to see who the bigger and better man is, that's for sure.

See, I may have had a little sympathy for you over being slapped by that one girl...but not after you spit in a girl's face for what was most likely an accident in a crowded club.
 

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Richmond slaying victim a samaritan to the end
- Jim Herron Zamora, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 24, 2005

(08-24) 14:24 PDT Richmond (SF Chronicle) -- Terence Lionel Martin died as he lived -- helping people in need, his sister said.

Richmond police said Martin, a furniture mover for the West Contra Costa Unified School District, was killed Tuesday when he witnessed a pregnant teenager being beaten by her boyfriend and tried to intervene.

"He really had a good heart, and that's how he lost his life," said Martin's older sister, Sharon Johnson. "He lived to help other people, to give someone a hand or listen to their problems. That's what made him happy. He just loved life. Everyone's life he touched was greatly enhanced."

Martin, 40, had just finished moving some furniture at the Lavonya DeJean Middle School and was driving a school district truck about 2:45 p.m. when he spotted the 17-year-old boy beating his teenage girlfriend on 35th Street near Bissell Avenue.

Martin pulled over, told the young man to stop and offered a hand to the woman. Police said the young man pulled out a gun and shot Martin in the back. He was airlifted to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek and later was pronounced dead.


Officers recovered a handgun nearby and about 4 p.m. arrested the 17-year-old suspect a few blocks away. It is not yet clear if the suspect will be tried as an adult.

Police said the pregnant teen, who is not being identified, appears to be OK.

"I'm not surprised that my brother pulled over and stopped for that pregnant girl," Johnson said. "He has a daughter about that age, and he is just the type of person who wants to protect everyone."

Johnson, 44, said the muscular, athletic Martin was four years younger but played the role of the protective sibling when they were growing up in Richmond's south side.

"He was younger than me in years but he was big brother at heart," Johnson said. "He liked to look out for people. He hated to see people hurt. But he was always good at avoiding trouble; you know he just wanted to break it up and move on."

Martin was a lifelong Richmond resident who began working for the school district just a few months after he graduated from Kennedy High School in 1983, Johnson said. He served in a variety of custodial and maintenance positions there before becoming a furniture mover.

On Wednesday, school district officials and union leaders mourned the death of the well-liked man, which happened on the first day of the school year.

"His death was especially heartbreaking because he died as result of helping someone in distress," said interim Superintendent Cynthia LeBlanc. "We have lost not just a wonderful employee, but a valued member of the community as well."

Martin is the third person to die in a shooting in Richmond since Sunday and the fourth since Thursday. The victims in the Sunday and Monday shootings were both 19 years old.

On Sunday, police found Allen Joseph Lewis of Pinole dead in a car on the 1000 block of Campbell Street. According to police, he was killed by gunfire. The next day, Jacque Junetino Smith of Vallejo was gunned down in broad daylight in front of 1230 Maine Ave., police said.

Richmond has seen 23 homicides so far this year, compared to 19 at the same time last year. But after late June when the city asked other public agencies, including the California High Patrol and Contra Costa Sheriff's Department, to help Richmond police at night, there were no slayings until last week.

In June, the Richmond City Council rejected a proposal by two council members to declare a state of emergency in the city, saying it was unclear how such a move might help fight crime. Some residents and merchants feared that such a declaration would hurt local business and dampen real estate prices.

E-mail Jim Zamora at jzamora@sfchronicle.com.


URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/08/24/BAsamaritan24.DTL
 

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How could you guys honestly say he should've just walked away and called the police? They could've taken ten minutes to get there, and by that time she coulda been dead.

The lack of personal responsibility is frightening. "Not my problem" is the most ignorant and selfish thing to do in this situation. Assuming "someone else will take care of it" is an epidemic that this site is trying to fight. It's sickening.

Yeah, "what if" he was a world class fighter? More like "what if" he was a serial rapist/killer and was about to kill this woman?

You did the responsible and right thing, don't be sorry.
 

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Nishbuk, you're like a super-hero, dude.

:rock:

You're probably sick of people commenting on this, oh well.
 
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