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slaog said:
I'd never date outside my race. Nothing against other races but people should stick to their own IMO.
Nothing wrong with that as quite a few ethnic groups like to "keep it in the family," so to speak.
 

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bish0p said:
If you wanna add in skin complexion, then extremely pale women have it just as bad as really dark women. However, dark women can't make their skin lighter by going to the tanning bed

Do they? Thats the first I ever heard of that, it doesn't mean that most guys would rather go with a very dark skinned Black girl over a very pale White girl. I heard pale skin, blue eyes and blonde hair in 2nd tier countries was the be all and end all of what they consider beautiful, I've never heard that concept before in my life. This isn't even an interest to me, so I fail to see why you're taking it to heart.


But, it doesn't mean that humans in general are inherently more attracted to lighter skinned people. For instance, many of the black women (and I've been around black women all of my life) appear to be more attracted to very dark skinned black males, than lighter skinned, or white men. But, this is just the world that I perceive
It's been said countless times, that the Blonde hair, blue eyes fatwa in South America and Asia are the most sought after looks among the travellers. Not to say, that a group of Black dudes wouldn't pull the same amount of game, but its a fact that white dudes have it much easier in those countries.

I've also noticed, that the hot Black females who aren't merely Ghettofied, tend to go for the richer men, White or Black guys where I'm from in London. I see tons of Black dudes with the fatter white girls, as apose to hot white curvy or slim females. Its not a stereotype, its just fact.

In other words, there are other variables present here and it doesn't necessarily conclude that lighter skinned women are inherently more attractive than darker skinned women.
From what I see in all the media, music videos, clubs, bars and on the street. Mixed-race and Lighter-skinned black females are more desired than dark-skinned Black females. That doesn't mean EVERYONE thinks they're more attractive. I remember watching something on the Tyra Banks Show and there was a Black lady, very dark, who was P*ssed off because her Black boyfriend went off and pregnated some Light-skinned girl and left her, so she wanted to bleach her skin to become desirable.
Well, in my reality, the opposite is true. I work around blue collared, black males and ALL of them would prefer a darker skin woman with black features to white women. Or, are they just fooling themselves? I would imagine you would say they are even though you've never met them.
Well I don't know where you're from, but in the high end social economic elite. Here, in London. I've witnessed, Lighter skinned black and Mixed race women have the upper hand in who gets all the men. My classmate is from Atlanta, Black dude. He is not ''white-washed'' (thats such typical crab mentality) and all his girls have been White or Hispanic. He's had black girls too, heck, he was even married to one at just 23, but he exclusively dates white or hispanic girls. Are you going to call him white washed too?

From what I've seen of you, you are white, and I almost expect any black male that hangs around you, as well as other white males casually, to be white washed in some form or another (they may even act "urban," but still date white women).
Well, whats your definition of White-washed? What, because theres Black dudes in the same group as Whites? Or, maybe because of the way he speaks, fluently and has good english command and refuses to dress in a stereotypical way? Without using ebonics? I don't get it. Check yourself on this.

So, who's right, me or you? Your reality versus mine.
I don't care about this topic and this is not my fight, I'm just telling you how it is here. Thats just how it is.

A similar poll has been conducted already; however, it turned into body types rather than facial features. If you didn't see it, the majority of black males preferred women with curvy bodies that had some thickness, more so than white males. Why is that?
I think you're refering to the Thick Curvy Women, thread. If I recall, I saw mostly, White and Hispanic women on those pictures, with the few exceptions of a couple LIGHTER skinned Thick women. Who said, curvy women only came in one shade? I did not see ONE Dark Skin Black chick on those pictures, and I like my females with ass and thighs as you've seen on my ex. The majority of interracial relationships, with black and white women, is that, the white girl is usually ''clumpy'' as apose to being ''curvy''. My own Black mate said that. And I'm going to take his word for it over some guys' on a forum.

Might it be the same regarding facial features if a REAL, scientific poll was conducted, using empirical evidence?
From what I've heard and seen. African girls are the least desired in my campus. They get heckled by their own people, Why? I don't know. If you check the statistics and media, the only continent in Africa where the females are regarded as Beautiful, are Ethiopia, Somalia and Morroco. These, cultures do not have the standard stereotypical 'Black' features of those from, say, West Africa. Yet again, it's european features. Silky hair, thin lips and straight nose. I don't get why its such a big a deal for you?

Seriously now, why do you think that is? Think about it. What is the majority ethnic group in America (and the UK)?
Apparently, that would be Hispanic now. Blacks aren't the majority ethnic group anymore in the US. Asians (Indians and Pakistanis) are the biggest ethnic group in the UK.

It simply appears to me that many white people are trying to white-wash other ethnic groups in America ( and ALL OF OVER THE WORLD [However, that's not to say that white Americans are the only ones guilty of doing this and that it's an inherently bad thing]) by telling us what is attractive and what is not.
I don't think many hard-working people, have TIME to try and white-wash anyone. Maybe, in the 60's. But all this race stuff is a thing of the past, with some people still holding on to grudges here and there. YOU, yourself have your OWN issues amonst your community, white people didn't tell you that lighter skin is better than darker skin, your ancestors unfortunately did this which has now created a ''divide and conquer'' concept between you.

What it means is that everyone wants everyone to be like them. So, we got guys like you who try to tell us that black women aren't attractive unless they have white features. You're a bltch.
Are you butthurt? Show me where I said Black women aren't attractive unless they have white features. I recall saying, those that do have these characteristics are more desired than the former. Yet again, this is what I've seen. Now, you resort to namecalling over something you misunderstood. But whatever mate.
 

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TIC said:
Well genetics would disagree with that notion, but you can live in whatever disillusion world you wish.

You're the one who is seriously disillusional. You're the one who believe what you're told without questioning anything. Genetics confirms whats so obvious for anyone with a brain cell.. race exists.
 

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slaog said:
You're the one who is seriously disillusional. You're the one who believe what you're told without questioning anything. Genetics confirms whats so obvious for anyone with a brain cell.. race exists.
Didn't say race doesn't exist

It tells us that genetic mixing is good for the overall health of the population. For instance, dogs get unhealthier and die faster the more you purify them. On the same token, muts are far healthier. The same goes for humans. But why am I explaining this to you?

You get pissed at me and other people for liking Asians? What for? What business is it of yours? None. Maybe I should come to where you live and tell you who to date. How does that sound. Me having an opinion on your personal preference. How would you like that? I won't though, because I have no interest in your personal life or your preferences

Just stay on your island, fool, and leave the rest of the civilized world alone.

Hope it capsizes by the way.
 

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Hell yeah, Asian girls are mad cute. Why would I want to date a black girl? Wider hips, fatter asses, and an attitude vs. the body and submissive attitude of a sixteen year old girl minus the immaturity and plus intelligence? I'll take the latter. Yeah, that is racial stereotyping, but there is some truth to it. Not that black girls can't be cute and ladylike, just that they tend not to be as often as Asian girls.
 

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TIC said:
Didn't say race doesn't exist

It tells us that genetic mixing is good for the overall health of the population. For instance, dogs get unhealthier and die faster the more you purify them. On the same token, muts are far healthier. The same goes for humans. But why am I explaining this to you?

Thats another PC myth which makes no sense. If a White and a Black breed and have brown skinned kids the brown skin can't absorb enough vitamin D in the north and isn't as good at protecting from the sun in Africa.


If you cross a greyhound with a sausage dog you better not put much money on it being as fast as a greyhound. The same applies with IQ.


By that logic you'd expect all races to be genetically defective. As I said it doesn't make sense.


TIC said:
You get pissed at me and other people for liking Asians? What for? What business is it of yours? None. Maybe I should come to where you live and tell you who to date. How does that sound. Me having an opinion on your personal preference. How would you like that? I won't though, because I have no interest in your personal life or your preferences

Just stay on your island, fool, and leave the rest of the civilized world alone.

Hope it capsizes by the way.

What other people do is my business because actions have consequences.
 

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Thats another PC myth which makes no sense. If a White and a Black breed and have brown skinned kids the brown skin can't absorb enough vitamin D in the north and isn't as good at protecting from the sun in Africa.
If you cross a greyhound with a sausage dog you better not put much money on it being as fast as a greyhound. The same applies with IQ.
Life expectancy is more important than trying to pop out fast dogs. What purpose will a fast dog serve if it dies soon after birth? Not much.

Health>IQ.

A healthy, sturdy population that lives long is better than having a population that has a higher IQ but lives in poor health and dies sooner because of a lack of genetic diversity

In your perfect world, the human race would eventually go extinct. Its bad eugenics. Good eugenics would allow those to mate who have proven competent and beneficial to society, but what you want is simply irrational.

Also, there is no study that says the products of genetic mixing are intellectually inferior. Show me a study comparing the IQ's of multi-ethnic individuals with pure-blood individuals. Then get back to me.


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What other people do is my business because actions have consequences.
Alright, let's hear a coherent, logical argument for why my banging an Asain woman in the US will have a negative effect on your life on your island. I'm listening intently, because you clearly have this all figured out. Clearly you have a deep, rich understanding of the dangers of genetic mixing and thereby a logical trepidation of what could come of this terrible, terrible fact of reality.
 

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I'm just going to put it out there: there are black women who don't know what to do with a man. Instead of them actually looking at what they could do better, their insecurity goes into overdrive and they act out.
 

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HeyPachuco! said:
Do they? Thats the first I ever heard of that, it doesn't mean that most guys would rather go with a very dark skinned Black girl over a very pale White girl. I heard pale skin, blue eyes and blonde hair in 2nd tier countries was the be all and end all of what they consider beautiful, I've never heard that concept before in my life. This isn't even an interest to me, so I fail to see why you're taking it to heart.
You heard? I hear a lot of things too, it doesn't make them true, fool.

I SEE pale women going to get tans all the time...why, because from what I'VE heard, being pale is unattractive. Here in the U.S., I SEE pale women getting picked on all the time because they are TOO pale. Imagine that.

HeyPachuco! said:
It's been said countless times, that the Blonde hair, blue eyes fatwa in South America and Asia are the most sought after looks among the travellers. Not to say, that a group of Black dudes wouldn't pull the same amount of game, but its a fact that white dudes have it much easier in those countries.
South America? Asia? Really? I don't know about South America, but I hear that Asian women desire black men. This has been said to me countless times as well, dumbass.

HeyPachuco! said:
I've also noticed, that the hot Black females who aren't merely Ghettofied, tend to go for the richer men, White or Black guys where I'm from in London.
What the fvck does this have to do with anything?

HeyPachuco! said:
I see tons of Black dudes with the fatter white girls, as apose to hot white curvy or slim females. Its not a stereotype, its just fact.
In Florida, I see black men with fat white women, with chubby asian women, with fat black women.

I also see black men with thin white girls, thin asian women, and thin black women.

Now, as far as white men are concerned...I see them with fat white chicks all the time. I'm also seeing an increase of white men with black women. What I rarely see here is white men with Asian women.

HeyPachuco! said:
From what I see in all the media, music videos, clubs, bars and on the street. Mixed-race and Lighter-skinned black females are more desired than dark-skinned Black females. That doesn't mean EVERYONE thinks they're more attractive.
I commented on this crap earlier.

HeyPachuco! said:
He is not ''white-washed'' (thats such typical crab mentality)
Believe what you want...but I grew up watching European "white-knights" save the blue-eyed, blond hair princess from the evil "dark" lord just as many other kids in the last century have. This is media white washing, buddy and potentially a very big reason why you have the perception that you do. Let it sink in.

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Well, whats your definition of White-washed? What, because theres Black dudes in the same group as Whites? Or, maybe because of the way he speaks, fluently and has good english command and refuses to dress in a stereotypical way? Without using ebonics? I don't get it. Check yourself on this.
Of course you don't get it. English was not a perfect language when it started. It evolved to what it is today and it still is evolving. The same can be said for Ebonics. So, what you call "ghettofied," I call the beginning of a new language. It's a language that your "Stereotypical" black person, born in a country where he/she is a minority, can call their own.

HeyPachuco! said:
I don't care about this topic and this is not my fight, I'm just telling you how it is here. Thats just how it is.
Then stop responding and stop trying to spread your ignorant, short-sighted beliefs around because you're not gonna change the way I think. It may work on weak, like-minded individuals who have the same beliefs as you, but not me.

HeyPachuco! said:
I think you're refering to the Thick Curvy Women, thread. If I recall, I saw mostly, White and Hispanic women on those pictures, with the few exceptions of a couple LIGHTER skinned Thick women. Who said, curvy women only came in one shade? I did not see ONE Dark Skin Black chick on those pictures, and I like my females with ass and thighs as you've seen on my ex. The majority of interracial relationships, with black and white women, is that, the white girl is usually ''clumpy'' as apose to being ''curvy''. My own Black mate said that. And I'm going to take his word for it over some guys' on a forum.
Again, you're going into skin complexion and I already commented on that. But, I will say this again (and since we are stuck on using personal experiences rather than true scientific studies), in my experience, extremely pale white women are not desired either WHICH IS WHY WHITE WOMEN GO TO GET TANS.

It seems that there has to be a balance between being too light and too dark.

HeyPachuco! said:
From what I've heard and seen. African girls are the least desired in my campus. They get heckled by their own people, Why? I don't know. If you check the statistics and media, the only continent in Africa where the females are regarded as Beautiful, are Ethiopia, Somalia and Morroco. These, cultures do not have the standard stereotypical 'Black' features of those from, say, West Africa. Yet again, it's european features. Silky hair, thin lips and straight nose. I don't get why its such a big a deal for you?
Your campus? YOUR campus? Your campus is not the world.

Anyways, I'm not repeating my argument on that as I've already talked about the "white knight" earlier.

HeyPachuco! said:
Apparently, that would be Hispanic now. Blacks aren't the majority ethnic group anymore in the US. Asians (Indians and Pakistanis) are the biggest ethnic group in the UK.
Wow, man....I was talking about white people being the majority. They are an ethnic group too.

HeyPachuco! said:
I don't think many hard-working people, have TIME to try and white-wash anyone. Maybe, in the 60's. But all this race stuff is a thing of the past, with some people still holding on to grudges here and there. YOU, yourself have your OWN issues amonst your community, white people didn't tell you that lighter skin is better than darker skin, your ancestors unfortunately did this which has now created a ''divide and conquer'' concept between you.
FYI, I'm black and white, bltch, so don't pretend you know what my ancestors told me.

But, just to let you know, I get the "divide and conquer" vibe from white people the most.

HeyPachuco! said:
Are you butthurt? Show me where I said Black women aren't attractive unless they have white features. I recall saying, those that do have these characteristics are more desired than the former. Yet again, this is what I've seen. Now, you resort to namecalling over something you misunderstood. But whatever mate.
Whatever. Like I said before, they are probably desired by you and your white washed black friends, but your campus is not the entire world.

Bottom line is this, Pachuco...until scientists find a gene in humans that says "All men find blond hair, blue-eyed, fair-skinned women to be more desirable than other types," every thing you and I believe regarding this subject is up for debate.

I'm done with this conversation.
 
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I'm glad this thread sparked such open debate .... But here are the facts

1 the white race is the alpha race in these times cause they control the most wealth and resources

2. Other races want wealth and power and most tines have to work for or with whites to obtainl wealth or survive

3. Many races see the white race as superior because of their leading economic status in the world

4. Many races feel that the more like whites they look the better their chance of getting wealth like whites

5. All women seek a mate who has the highest potential to be able to provide for them and their offspring and in most cases that's the white men or the men whith the features most similar to the whites because those men are portrayed as more successful and desirable

6. Whites control the media so they portray their women as the most attractive and other women who have features similar to white women are considered to be next in line so all those women have the highest perceived value and are sought after by the most men and usually have first pick of the richest and best looking men

7. In most cases the darker you are the more negatively you are looked upon and the socioeconomics of the culture are stacked against you .. You must work twice as hard and will usually have a higher failure rate

THOSE ARE THE FACTS
 

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Racism is really dumb and you will find racist people in all races that are racist against a wide variety of other races based on stereotyping. Some white people are racist against black people, some black people against whites, some Asians against other Asians some Europeans against other Europeans. I grew up in a melting pot of the world as a white minority where there are so many mixed races and visitors from around the world that after a while you realize that people are just people, everyone wants to be happy and they do what they think they need to to be happy and or comfortable, women want to have the best men, men want THEIR version of the most attractive women (which can be anything or nearly everything). Focusing on the differences and encouraging that kind of thinking only causes the cycle to continue...... and it's f*cking DUMB.

I admit. When I see a black guy all blinged out walking with a strut and giving stink eye... I'm probably not going to be going out of my way to make buddies with him, SAME thing if I see some skinhead kind of guy or some Yakuza looking guy. If I see a black guy being friendly and having fun and being cool, I'll say what's up and be cool with him (and have and do). Same for everyone else. I'm NOT going to make stereotypes about ALL X guys etc. unless they VERY obviously TRY to fit a negative stereotype.

Incidentally I've never hooked up with a black chick before, but have flirted and been attracted to some darker skinned black girls and lighter skinned, if I felt the vibe with them and thought they were sexy. I'm not into the bigger asses though, but do like big full lips (on any girl). I'll hook up and hang out (and have) with girls of all different races and all different mixes of races....my qualifier is "do I wanna f*ck her & would I feel good about it after I did" if the answer is yes, I go for it.

Have traveled a little and what I've noticed is that people tend to be more racist when they aren't exposed to many different kinds of people. They may live in white / black ONLY areas and make generalizations about the other race because they may have had bad experiences. Like for me if all I was around all day was white people and Samoan people and I had a number of bad experiences growing up with Samoan people I might create and sustain a stereotype about Samoans, but since I've been around so many races and cultures I know that some people are cool and some aren't and the race they come from isn't the determining factor.
 

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Amen to what yuppaz said. A lot generalizations about black women and black men. I am kinda disappointed in how unintentionally racist/closed-minded a lot of the opinions are. Most of it can likely be attributed to bad experiences or a lack of first hand experience in general with blacks.

There are too many incorrect statements in this thread for me to address them all but let me just summarize by saying that it is best not to base your experiences off of localized experiences, regardless of length of the experience or the intimacy level you achieved with a person. One person's opinion is simply one person's opinion. The fact that someone is black/white whatever does not make their insights any more valid because no one is in a position to speak for an entire race. Don Gorgon's posts relays this point perfectly because we are both black but I do not agree with a single thing he has said.

I think that much of the board needs to face reality and deal with the cause and effects in the world. A prime example is the Mature Man section harping about every woman having Bi-Polar Disorder. Members are quick to hurl misogynistic phrases and whine about BPD chicks which:

A) Causes them to overlook quality chicks because they are so bitter and committed to their pessimistic view of the world
B) Allows them to skip trying to comprehend why so many women seem to have BPD-traits and how the issue can be resolved in a one-on-one manner.
C) Usually have a direct correlation factor that is being overlooked: For example, if a guy dates 5 girls in a row that has BPD traits, he might conclude that women in general are BPD. However what if I add that the women he finds are generally in a club setting? What about if they are addicted to coke? What if they where abused sexually in the past? The mere fact that they are female does is not enough evidence to prove that they are BPD. Stereotypes are too general and encompassing...


These three errors of stereotyping BPD chicks are repeated in most stereotypes, black women included.

I didn't speak on the topic earlier because I was waiting for a slew of sane, unbiased opinions to flood in and bring logic to the situation, and I also expected a mod lock this unproductive thread relatively quickly. Unfortunately it seems that, save for Yuppaz and a (very) select few, most of the people in the thread are illogical and angry. I guess cooler heads know to skip racial threads because of the anger and hate that follows...
 

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TIC said:
Life expectancy is more important than trying to pop out fast dogs. What purpose will a fast dog serve if it dies soon after birth? Not much.

Health>IQ.

A healthy, sturdy population that lives long is better than having a population that has a higher IQ but lives in poor health and dies sooner because of a lack of genetic diversity
Those dogs have all problems because they're inbred. And long life usually comes down to lifestyle and diet.

TIC said:
In your perfect world, the human race would eventually go extinct. Its bad eugenics. Good eugenics would allow those to mate who have proven competent and beneficial to society, but what you want is simply irrational.
Is it irrational to like your own race and culture? Anybody who thinks it is are themselves being irrational. And to say a whole race will go extinct if it doesn't breed with another race is also irrational.

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Also, there is no study that says the products of genetic mixing are intellectually inferior. Show me a study comparing the IQ's of multi-ethnic individuals with pure-blood individuals. Then get back to me.
I don't want to get into a debate about IQ and intelligence. I don't care if White people were the least smartest race I would still have the same views.

TIC said:
Alright, let's hear a coherent, logical argument for why my banging an Asain woman in the US will have a negative effect on your life on your island. I'm listening intently, because you clearly have this all figured out. Clearly you have a deep, rich understanding of the dangers of genetic mixing and thereby a logical trepidation of what could come of this terrible, terrible fact of reality.
As I said earlier I'm against race mixing and if people are White people will be a greater minority than they already are. I don't have a problem with Whites race mixing as long as they stay in Asia or whereever.
 
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ok I'm black male and I have got to my limit with black women OMG I can't tie them any more .... they are luck god made them so physically attractive cause everything else about them is disgusting !!! just a rant
Hi Don,
I'm a black male as well, and I spent half my life living in the south so I understand. However, just as with any race, QUALITY is rare. In terms of "sistas", it's true that a lot of them are after thugs and pretty boys. You don't want them anyway.

To get a quality lady, you need to hit up the more upscale parts of town: bookstores, health food markets, and upscale lounges that cater to 21/23+ crowds. You might also consider plentyoffish.com and aim for women who've graduated college with no kids.

As men mature and become older, we will naturally become more selective. Don't get bitter. Just select wisely homie!
 

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Amen to what yuppaz said. A lot generalizations about black women and black men. I am kinda disappointed in how unintentionally racist/closed-minded a lot of the opinions are. Most of it can likely be attributed to bad experiences or a lack of first hand experience in general with blacks.

There are too many incorrect statements in this thread for me to address them all but let me just summarize by saying that it is best not to base your experiences off of localized experiences, regardless of length of the experience or the intimacy level you achieved with a person. One person's opinion is simply one person's opinion. The fact that someone is black/white whatever does not make their insights any more valid because no one is in a position to speak for an entire race. Don Gorgon's posts relays this point perfectly because we are both black but I do not agree with a single thing he has said.
If a Black person robbed my house I wouldn't be the sort of person who gets hysterical and start to hate all Blacks. Also I don't love all Whites.

I notice that the Blacks that actually have pride in themselves are the ones who marry within their own race usually ie Will Smith. The media also plays a part in promoting gansta culture that does nothing for Black people.
 

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As I said earlier I'm against race mixing and if people are White people will be a greater minority than they already are. I don't have a problem with Whites race mixing as long as they stay in Asia or whereever.
Huh lol? What are you even talking about? Help me understand, your OK with some race mixing now? Which is it? Before you said you were against race mixing all-together.

Basically, your backtracking and no longer making sense. Ultimately you need to realize that you have no control over what other people do in their personal lives, and you should probably just worry about your own.
 
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