Ok, why did this girl ghost?

[SargeMaximus]

Tried to not talk about sex or show too much interest??? Give me a break, the whole thing was about sex and desparation. Whole thing was lame. I would have ghosted you faster than she did,...assuming it wasn't a faked account.

Gee thanks. I’ll try that next time. Great actionable advice and support as always. Let me write that down

 

[PRW63]

Lost my fwb due to listening to some stupid advice on here but that’s on me

At least it wasn't Reddit. If it was advice from Reddit, she would have shot you, burnt the corpse, poured salt on the ashes,...then ran.

 

[SargeMaximus]

At least it wasn't Reddit. If it was advice from Reddit, she would have shot you, burnt the corpse, poured salt on the ashes,...then ran.

Whereas if I had followed my own intuition, I’d still be fvcking her. Just like always, my way works best for me.

and on this thread I’m getting advice that kept me a virgin for years.

 

[PRW63]

Gee thanks. I’ll try that next time. Great actionable advice and support as always. Let me write that down

It's about subtext. Women communicate covertly via subtext. You were using a lot of it, maybe without realizing it. The subtext was screaming "I want it, and I want it now!". Best way to avoid that is to never use humor in any kind of "texting", meet face to face as soon as possible. Body language, facial expressions (including micro-expressions), and tone of voice make all the difference in the world.

But it could have been a fake account and then it doesn't matter anyway unless they want you to send a bitcoin account number to a big tall guy named Suzi in Nigeria.

 

[SargeMaximus]

It's about subtext. Women communicate covertly via subtext. You were using a lot of it, maybe without realizing it. The subtext was screaming "I want it, and I want it now!". Best way to avoid that is to never use humor in any kind of "texting", meet face to face as soon as possible. Body language, facial expressions (including micro-expressions), and tone of voice make all the difference in the world.

But it could have been a fake account and then it doesn't matter anyway unless they want you to send a bitcoin account number to a big tall guy named Suzi in Nigeria.

Yeah fair. Still, not being direct like this doesn’t get me laid so it would seem I have no choice but to keep using it.

Im not desperate,I’m the same way in sales. I like to think my subtext is “I want it, but it’s not necessary from you.”

 

[Paper Crane]

Breh girls can easily change their mind on who they want to sleep with. in OLD whent hey're super horny and want to be f-ed.. it takes minutes for them to find someone else they rather sleep with. girls go for the top of the top when they want to fucc... the average guy gets the first few messages but she ends up sleeping with someone who turns her on more

 

[SargeMaximus]

Read it again and pay attention to the styles of communication that seducers use. Greene goes into great detail about it.

If you're not getting the results you want with women then it's time to open your mind to new concepts.

I’m open to new concepts, not ones I’ve tried before with no results.

 

[Barrister]

Likely a fake account, brother. In the event it isn't -- you have to understand that there is many times no rhyme or reason to what women do. She was probably texting multiple men and she snagged another guy before things materialized with you.

In other words, you did nothing wrong here. We can nitpick delivery and what not, but at the end of the day there is nothing you could have done. You need a short memory when trying to get hot chicks because you will strike out more than you connect.

 

[Paper Crane]

Likely a fake account, brother. In the event it isn't -- you have to understand that there is many times no rhyme or reason to what women do. She was probably texting multiple men and she snagged another guy before things materialized with you.

In other words, you did nothing wrong here. We can nitpick delivery and what not, but at the end of the day there is nothing you could have done. You need a short memory when trying to get hot chicks because you will strike out more than you connect.

I disagree. theres perfect rhyme or reason here. i been in this position.. when women are horny, it comes downt o selection. she might message one guy first but then like what another guy is saying more and like the other guy more overall based on his look, his profile, and sleep wtih him instead

its just simple ass science

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It’s the only way I’ve gotten laid, so you can see why I’d disagree

You can disagree all you want, but your view of reality is all that is limiting you not reality itself.

 

[SargeMaximus]

You can disagree all you want, but your view of reality is all that is limiting you not reality itself.

So explain to me why I should abandon getting laid to become an incel again just to appease you?

 

[Bokanovsky]

I do wish people like you would address the issue that people like me and donjuanjr can’t seem to get results unless we are direct.

if I was still trying indirect game Since 2012, I have no doubt I would still be a virgin.

You can be direct without sounding like a drone (or like you are writing in a foreign language and using google translate). Try to inject some humour.

 

[SargeMaximus]

You can be direct without sounding like a drone (or like you are writing in a foreign language and using google translate). Try to inject some humour.

Wouldn’t that make me a dancing monkey? Plus, laughing and humour is the last thing that makes me sexual. I’ve had ED before because there was a comedy playing on Netflix in the background

 

[Georgepithyou]

Next time just get her number and call, it's much harder to be a fake account when you talk on the phone

 

[SargeMaximus]

You can be direct without sounding like a drone (or like you are writing in a foreign language and using google translate). Try to inject some humour.

Like this? Pic below

 

[Bokanovsky]

Wouldn’t that make me a dancing monkey? Plus, laughing and humour is the last thing that makes me sexual. I’ve had ED before because there was a comedy playing on Netflix in the background

No. There is a difference between making a funny/witty comment and giving an entire stand up comic routine.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So explain to me why I should abandon getting laid to become an incel again just to appease you?

You aren't abandoning getting laid. You are allowing average results to prevent you from achieving better results.

If the only way you can get laid is by being overly sexual then you have a lot of work to do on yourself that you are trying not to do. That's reality. You can sugar coat it or excuse it away any way you want to. And I get it. It's hard work. Really hard work. But if you choose not to do it, you will simply end up in these situations over and over again. You should want to be better than that. Not for me or for a woman but for yourself. I think you need to set the bar a lot higher for yourself, right now it's kind of at limbo level.

Change the questions you ask yourself and you can change your life.

 

[SargeMaximus]

This is a manipulative conversation. I’ve had similar but they turned out well.
How likely is it that a woman you have never met would jump to high level sexual escapades?

There was no subtext in her words. Straight man directness. Usually if they are interested, it’s like a ramp. From innuendo as a start point. Arousal is more gradual. If you have been kissing or touching I could see it. She can go from Luke warm to hot quickly in the right context. But there’s still a ramp. The slow building caused by closeness.

I had to talk more with a woman if it was by text. I had a couple meet me for the first time for sex. But the calibration was instinctual. There was no thinking on my part. Once in the zone you just go with it.

What I read in your post is just a woman trying erotic texting. You didn’t play. She asked what you intended to do with her. You shut it down.

Let me ask you a legitimate question. What data, philosophy or game idea were you using? This isn’t a make wrong, I just want you to look at what information you were operating on.

I was trying not to be too sexual because you guys tell me it’s not a good idea. If I was doing my normal style of game I would have told her what I was going to do with her.

yet another example of me taking advice from here and getting blue balls with it

 

[SargeMaximus]

I agree with your own assessment. I’ve been very successful moving up the ramp to sex. Getting her mind to imagine good feelings is the same as doing good things.

It’s the lack of the ramp that says she just wanted erotic texting with you. That can lead to sex, IF you are skilled with words. You forgot to have fun is your only error. Sext with her for fun next time. Good practice for extreme dirty talk when you get a woman worked up in person. That which you can imagine, you can have. Next time just have some fun. None of this is serious stuff. This is ALL play. Go with what you know until you know more.

You bringing up sex in a direct linear manner can most definitely crash things. HER bringing up sex is the exact opposite. Even if she was just wanting sexting and was never intending to meet you, you get dirty talk practice. Notice I said “intending”, do you think women ever change their minds?

Yeah that’s normally what I do. But I am trying to improve my game but it’s funny how when i decide to make changes, I run into girls that my old style would work on

 

[SargeMaximus]

That is interesting indeed. Just an opinion, but isn’t it time to work on direct masculinity? I believe that things are already in you. There are elements that this basic stuff doesn’t help with. The upper level of your life is something different. I know it was for me. It was ideas and constructs within me that messed me up.

Here is a little secret. A real nugget. It’s been said that confidence is an attractant. It is but is very contextual. One can be extremely competent and confident in what he does. Won’t help.

The only “confidence” that really penetrates a woman…is sexual confidence. When women talk about confidence in a man, they are talking about sexual confidence. They just don’t know what else to call it. It’s a general telegraphed vibe that they pick up. Their body responds. Her genetics respond. Remember that there is communication going on that is non verbal.

Now there are plenty of women who won’t respond unless you are 6’6” and built like a rhino. You are only interested in those that respond to your presence. I had a cute women at a friggin gas station today start talking to me about having a problem figuring out what drink to buy. I directed her to the carbonated drinks with no sugar and introduced myself. THAT is an opening. If I was a computer geek with no sexual confidence I would not have existed to her.

Work on that maybe? How would a man carry himself if he had high sexual confidence?

I have high sexual confidence. I been with lots of girls. But I don’t have confidence in my ability to get hotter girls. It’s kind of a weird thing.