Ok, why did this girl ghost?

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How can you not see a goal?

The goal is to make the woman realize that you are a fun, awesome guy that she would like to get to know better and allowing her to have the opportunity to do so.

Be playful, fun, teasing, etc...I am willing to bet you come off as being overly serious like it's a life or death mission you are on...that won't work...it will turn them off because you are too concerned with the outcome.
It’s the only way I’ve gotten laid, so you can see why I’d disagree
 

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Guys, I even purposefully tried not to talk about sex or show too much interest this time yet this girl deleted her account shortly after. Pics below
Tried to not talk about sex or show too much interest??? Give me a break, the whole thing was about sex and desparation. Whole thing was lame. I would have ghosted you faster than she did,...assuming it wasn't a faked account.
 

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Tried to not talk about sex or show too much interest??? Give me a break, the whole thing was about sex and desparation. Whole thing was lame. I would have ghosted you faster than she did,...assuming it wasn't a faked account.
Gee thanks. I’ll try that next time. Great actionable advice and support as always. Let me write that down
 

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At least it wasn't Reddit. If it was advice from Reddit, she would have shot you, burnt the corpse, poured salt on the ashes,...then ran.
Whereas if I had followed my own intuition, I’d still be fvcking her. Just like always, my way works best for me.

and on this thread I’m getting advice that kept me a virgin for years.
 

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Gee thanks. I’ll try that next time. Great actionable advice and support as always. Let me write that down
It's about subtext. Women communicate covertly via subtext. You were using a lot of it, maybe without realizing it. The subtext was screaming "I want it, and I want it now!". Best way to avoid that is to never use humor in any kind of "texting", meet face to face as soon as possible. Body language, facial expressions (including micro-expressions), and tone of voice make all the difference in the world.

But it could have been a fake account and then it doesn't matter anyway unless they want you to send a bitcoin account number to a big tall guy named Suzi in Nigeria.
 

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It's about subtext. Women communicate covertly via subtext. You were using a lot of it, maybe without realizing it. The subtext was screaming "I want it, and I want it now!". Best way to avoid that is to never use humor in any kind of "texting", meet face to face as soon as possible. Body language, facial expressions (including micro-expressions), and tone of voice make all the difference in the world.

But it could have been a fake account and then it doesn't matter anyway unless they want you to send a bitcoin account number to a big tall guy named Suzi in Nigeria.
Yeah fair. Still, not being direct like this doesn’t get me laid so it would seem I have no choice but to keep using it.

Im not desperate,I’m the same way in sales. I like to think my subtext is “I want it, but it’s not necessary from you.”
 

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Give me a break, the whole thing was about sex and desparation.
I think this is only the case with females who are not as receptive to ONS. I think being as direct as sarge and I have, works with females who are seriously craving d1ck with no illusions of relationships or courting. I think it comes off as convenient to them not desperate.

Edit: Though I've only had one experience with this so far, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
 

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Breh girls can easily change their mind on who they want to sleep with. in OLD whent hey're super horny and want to be f-ed.. it takes minutes for them to find someone else they rather sleep with. girls go for the top of the top when they want to fucc... the average guy gets the first few messages but she ends up sleeping with someone who turns her on more
 

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Read it again and pay attention to the styles of communication that seducers use. Greene goes into great detail about it.

If you're not getting the results you want with women then it's time to open your mind to new concepts.
I’m open to new concepts, not ones I’ve tried before with no results.
 

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Likely a fake account, brother. In the event it isn't -- you have to understand that there is many times no rhyme or reason to what women do. She was probably texting multiple men and she snagged another guy before things materialized with you.

In other words, you did nothing wrong here. We can nitpick delivery and what not, but at the end of the day there is nothing you could have done. You need a short memory when trying to get hot chicks because you will strike out more than you connect.
 

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Likely a fake account, brother. In the event it isn't -- you have to understand that there is many times no rhyme or reason to what women do. She was probably texting multiple men and she snagged another guy before things materialized with you.

In other words, you did nothing wrong here. We can nitpick delivery and what not, but at the end of the day there is nothing you could have done. You need a short memory when trying to get hot chicks because you will strike out more than you connect.
I disagree. theres perfect rhyme or reason here. i been in this position.. when women are horny, it comes downt o selection. she might message one guy first but then like what another guy is saying more and like the other guy more overall based on his look, his profile, and sleep wtih him instead

its just simple ass science
 

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I do wish people like you would address the issue that people like me and donjuanjr can’t seem to get results unless we are direct.

if I was still trying indirect game Since 2012, I have no doubt I would still be a virgin.
You can be direct without sounding like a drone (or like you are writing in a foreign language and using google translate). Try to inject some humour.
 

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You can be direct without sounding like a drone (or like you are writing in a foreign language and using google translate). Try to inject some humour.
Wouldn’t that make me a dancing monkey? Plus, laughing and humour is the last thing that makes me sexual. I’ve had ED before because there was a comedy playing on Netflix in the background
 

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Wouldn’t that make me a dancing monkey? Plus, laughing and humour is the last thing that makes me sexual. I’ve had ED before because there was a comedy playing on Netflix in the background
No. There is a difference between making a funny/witty comment and giving an entire stand up comic routine.
 

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So explain to me why I should abandon getting laid to become an incel again just to appease you?
You aren't abandoning getting laid. You are allowing average results to prevent you from achieving better results.

If the only way you can get laid is by being overly sexual then you have a lot of work to do on yourself that you are trying not to do. That's reality. You can sugar coat it or excuse it away any way you want to. And I get it. It's hard work. Really hard work. But if you choose not to do it, you will simply end up in these situations over and over again. You should want to be better than that. Not for me or for a woman but for yourself. I think you need to set the bar a lot higher for yourself, right now it's kind of at limbo level.

Change the questions you ask yourself and you can change your life.
 
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