Now this is an awesome technique!!!

[Mr_knowit_all]

I've tried this a few times, and I will say I've had incredible success with it. It not only weeds out the flakes, but it gets you women who really want to be with you.

Try this: If you see a woman you want to ask out, walk up to her and tell her that she seems nice/attractive/interesting etc....... THEN give her YOUR PHONE NUMBER, and tell her if she'd ever like to go out and spend some time together to give you a call.

Here's why this is better than asking for her number.

1) You take the pressure off her having to answer right away. Normally she might be too defensive to say yes right away, but given the chance to think about it, she might change her mind. Because you were a gentleman and left the ball in her court.

2) Safety issue. A lot of women are scared, and rightfully so, of giving out their numbers. If they can reach you, it might creat a comfort zone for them that they'll run with.

3) If she does call you, then you instantly know she's at least somewhat into you. Why else would she make an effort? This reason alone weeds out a lot of flakes.

4) It's less chance of rejection. More women will comply with this request than handing out their numbers on a cold approach. And even if she doesn't call back, who cares? You don't lose any face, and you didn't waste any time playing phone tag wondering if she likes you.

I'm not sure if this has ever been mentioned before on the board, but I truly think it's a superior alternative to the traditional cold approach.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

I've tried this a few times, and I will say I've had incredible success with it. It not only weeds out the flakes, but it gets you women who really want to be with you.

Try this: If you see a woman you want to ask out, walk up to her and tell her that she seems nice/attractive/interesting etc....... THEN give her YOUR PHONE NUMBER, and tell her if she'd ever like to go out and spend some time together to give you a call.

Here's why this is better than asking for her number.

1) You take the pressure off her having to answer right away. Normally she might be too defensive to say yes right away, but given the chance to think about it, she might change her mind. Because you were a gentleman and left the ball in her court.

2) Safety issue. A lot of women are scared, and rightfully so, of giving out their numbers. If they can reach you, it might creat a comfort zone for them that they'll run with.

3) If she does call you, then you instantly know she's at least somewhat into you. Why else would she make an effort? This reason alone weeds out a lot of flakes.

4) It's less chance of rejection. More women will comply with this request than handing out their numbers on a cold approach. And even if she doesn't call back, who cares? You don't lose any face, and you didn't waste any time playing phone tag wondering if she likes you.

I'm not sure if this has ever been mentioned before on the board, but I truly think it's a superior alternative to the traditional cold approach.

If that works for you, great. It just seems too relaxed for me, why go through all the effort to spend my precious time to passive aggressively persue her. I like leading the relationship by taking what I want. If she doesn't give you the digits fckit. NEXT.
If after you talk to her for a few minutes and she can't figure out you aren't some psycho-douche maybe it's not worth it. Just my .02.

 

[Mr_knowit_all]

If that works for you, great. It just seems too relaxed for me, why go through all the effort to spend my precious time to passive aggressively persue her. I like leading the relationship by taking what I want. If she doesn't give you the digits fckit. NEXT.
If after you talk to her for a few minutes and she can't figure out you aren't some psycho-douche maybe it's not worth it. Just my .02.

Yeah, who couldn't figure out that you're a psycho in two minutes? But I see what you're saying about wasting your time. But on the same token, you could be wasting your time just as easily asking for the number and getting jacked around by her.

Either way, I like this technique and I'm sticking with it.

 

[Jariel]

I'm not a big fan of cold approaching generally, but I really like the sound of this, for all the reasons you listed.

I think this approach also shows great confidence. Unlike the traditional approach where you are doing the asking and giving her the power to reject or accept you, you are basically saying "Hi, I'm the bomb and I'm giving you an opportunity to get with me. It's upto you." That's kinda powerful!

Maybe you could have your number on a business card so you can slip her the number without it looking like you planned ahead (that's our secret )

I have not used this technique myself, but I like the sound of it. I've also known guys give their number to friends to pass on to girls and the girls have responded well - (usually by text message rather than a call, but that's easier for them).

Anyway, I'd like to read any field reports on this if anyone's up for posting any.

 

[tryin 2 play]

What I don't like about this technique is that even today, MOST girls will not make that first phone call, no matter what. You can be as smoothe or as DJ as you want, but the truth is that most girls want the guy to call her first. She could be really into you, but will not call just because thats "how it works". I have heard so many girls say that they would never call a guy first, no matter how much she is into him. Like fortunate juan said, it seems to passive agressiv. Be a MAN! make the moves!!

 

[jonwon]

I've tried this a few times, and I will say I've had incredible success with it. It not only weeds out the flakes, but it gets you women who really want to be with you.

Try this: If you see a woman you want to ask out, walk up to her and tell her that she seems nice/attractive/interesting etc....... THEN give her YOUR PHONE NUMBER, and tell her if she'd ever like to go out and spend some time together to give you a call.

Here's why this is better than asking for her number.

1) You take the pressure off her having to answer right away. Normally she might be too defensive to say yes right away, but given the chance to think about it, she might change her mind. Because you were a gentleman and left the ball in her court.

2) Safety issue. A lot of women are scared, and rightfully so, of giving out their numbers. If they can reach you, it might creat a comfort zone for them that they'll run with.

3) If she does call you, then you instantly know she's at least somewhat into you. Why else would she make an effort? This reason alone weeds out a lot of flakes.

4) It's less chance of rejection. More women will comply with this request than handing out their numbers on a cold approach. And even if she doesn't call back, who cares? You don't lose any face, and you didn't waste any time playing phone tag wondering if she likes you.

I'm not sure if this has ever been mentioned before on the board, but I truly think it's a superior alternative to the traditional cold approach.

Sorry i cant see this working and there is alot of reasons why!

Just a few here!

The women maybe shy! alot are.
The women may take your number just to be polite.
She may consider you to be another smuck, hell she as had 5/10 guys do the same thing.
It puts her on a pedistal and makes her in charge of the situation
You asked her, ie showed intrest, you now expect her to show it back and do the ground work.
You dont even know her, your just hoping on a phone call and in that a result.

Dont get me wrong i would love this to work, but being in this game for many reasons! This method may work but the chances of getting a result of a random women is very very slim, this is from experiance.
It also ties in with, taking there number the second you see them, which also from experiance equals almost no return or a wasted phone call.

There are reasons why guys develop to get them intrested then see if they like them, then swap numbers, as it clears alot of mess up at the start. It also limits flakes, bad behavoir and as a higher % of return.

If this works for you then well done! But i cant see this working on random women, it may work on people you already know, but i cant see it working on people that are approached.

I know this stuff can work, but the potential for negaive traits are far to big to even consider this stuff for guys that want a bigger return.

Sorry i dont like this method one bit, last i know of this method working was a guy who wrote his number on a match packet and the girl phoned him.
This was due to the women being confident and the guy being very good looking and i mean well above average, even then i wonder how many times he actually did this and got a result. I was not suprised they dated for a while, since i would expect his results to be rather poor and i expected him to have invested most of attention on her. Not a bad thing, but i prefer to have more options which comes from convo, seeing intrest levels, then swapping numbers for dates and then setting the dates up.

But it is better then nothing i imagine, but i would not expect any guy to get a great return on this method.
I can imagine this working better in some social circles!

 

[Mr_knowit_all]

I understand what some of you are saying, but I'm telling you, THIS WORKS!!!..

You're definitely not putting her on a pedestal. Like the other poster said, you're saying I'm the prize, if you want to make an effort to contact me, great. If not, that's OK too.

You guys are silly if you think women won't make a phone call.

I don't know where I heard this, but it really rings true. "A woman is happiest when she thinks she's doing the pursuing"

I know this goes against conventional wisdom, but it really is true. If she thinks it's her idea to pursue the relationship, it works out better.

 

[jonwon]

I understand what some of you are saying, but I'm telling you, THIS WORKS!!!..

You're definitely not putting her on a pedestal. Like the other poster said, you're saying I'm the prize, if you want to make an effort to contact me, great. If not, that's OK too.

You guys are silly if you think women won't make a phone call.

I don't know where I heard this, but it really rings true. "A woman is happiest when she thinks she's doing the pursuing"

I know this goes against conventional wisdom, but it really is true. If she thinks it's her idea to pursue the relationship, it works out better.

ok well your really happy about this technique but i know alot of GL guys and i know this as been tried ALOT. it works about as well as approaching and getting there number, which equals about 2% chance of a decent hook up, escpeccially in a club/bar scene.

I would be intrested to see where you apply this, i can possibly see it working in a more quiter environment.

I will admit it will work, but i cant see it working for average guys, i would expect it to work for very GL guy and i mean shi* hot sharp.

Or a women who is showing very high buying signals, but then again, if that was the case, it would be better to convo her anyway, imo.

 

[El Febreezey Da Beez]

Congrats if it works for you, but the cold approach is way out of my league man.

 

[Mr_knowit_all]

Congrats if it works for you, but the cold approach is way out of my league man.

But this isn't really a cold approach persay. Sure you don't know the chick, but it's not as awkward and you'll get better results.

 

[Zero Hero]

Try it 50 times and report back.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

2 mins? I dont believe I set a time limit. At any rate if you can't convey to her that you are for the most part normal within that time frame either try again later or don't.

But like some of the other posters are saying, I think it's way better to go for the number instead of giving her yours.

It's easier to put it out of your mind if you have control, she has the control if you give her your number. In a sense you are making her work for something that she probably hasn't put a lot of value in since it's a cold approach. People don't like to work for nothing, or what they have put little value on.

Go for the number, call the shots. I've had chicks #'s, set up a date and wow nothing. But at least I can look back and go, I gave it a shot.

As for the other poster saying it's above your head; there's no time like the present to rise to that occasion. STOP shooting yourself down before you even start man. Cold approaches wont get any easier without actually doing them.

 

[Raikojo17]

I've tried this a few times, and I will say I've had incredible success with it. It not only weeds out the flakes, but it gets you women who really want to be with you.

Try this: If you see a woman you want to ask out, walk up to her and tell her that she seems nice/attractive/interesting etc....... THEN give her YOUR PHONE NUMBER, and tell her if she'd ever like to go out and spend some time together to give you a call.

Here's why this is better than asking for her number.

1) You take the pressure off her having to answer right away. Normally she might be too defensive to say yes right away, but given the chance to think about it, she might change her mind. Because you were a gentleman and left the ball in her court.

2) Safety issue. A lot of women are scared, and rightfully so, of giving out their numbers. If they can reach you, it might creat a comfort zone for them that they'll run with.

3) If she does call you, then you instantly know she's at least somewhat into you. Why else would she make an effort? This reason alone weeds out a lot of flakes.

4) It's less chance of rejection. More women will comply with this request than handing out their numbers on a cold approach. And even if she doesn't call back, who cares? You don't lose any face, and you didn't waste any time playing phone tag wondering if she likes you.

I'm not sure if this has ever been mentioned before on the board, but I truly think it's a superior alternative to the traditional cold approach.

know it all, i c what ur saying. this approach does make the girl less pressured and everything i guess, but i know from experience that this doesnt work. maybe ur really lucky or good looking or sumthing, but me along with other guys have not gotten good results from giving out or numbers to girl. girls for sum reason just dont call, unless u get lucky and they r in love with u or r confident. this method obviously works for u, but not for me. i get better success rates after taking there number then me giving them mine.

 

[pimpin IS easy]

good way to sound like a chump with no balls.....so, how many different girls have u had sex from doing this? how many called? how many dates? you gotta back up what you say with some numbers buddy boy

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

good way to sound like a chump with no balls.....so, how many different girls have u had sex from doing this? how many called? how many dates? you gotta back up what you say with some numbers buddy boy

Why? Pook or senor fingers or who ever else helped write the bible/archives, I don't care how many chicks they had sex with. Applying their techniques got me laid. So if they are virgins, I don't give two damns. I know tons of male slu7s who get laid all the time, but have no game to show for it.

But yes, "putting the ball in their court" with the number thing wont get you as many results as just going for the gold.

 

[pimpin IS easy]

Why? Pook or senor fingers or who ever else helped write the bible/archives, I don't care how many chicks they had sex with. Applying their techniques got me laid. So if they are virgins, I don't give two damns. I know tons of male slu7s who get laid all the time, but have no game to show for it.

But yes, "putting the ball in their court" with the number thing wont get you as many results as just going for the gold.

Pook and senor fingers gave obvious advice, they just broke it up into motivation speech style of explaining (which I no doubt liked). They basically helped the average chump overcome inner issues. One does not need real life examples of that. However, when one is sharing a technique that is strictly used to get girls on dates and into bed, I would like to see some numbers to back it up, especially when the technique is something not ordinary and causes us to speculate about how good it actually is. This technique is not good. YOU giving a girl YOUR # means that there is a good chance she will not call on average, especially after a random short cold approach convo. When the girl gives you HER #, you are 100% in control........and mostly she will get flaky over the phone only if you sound like a chump when you actually do call her up.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

Pook and senor fingers gave obvious advice, they just broke it up into motivation speech style of explaining (which I no doubt liked). They basically helped the average chump overcome inner issues. One does not need real life examples of that. However, when one is sharing a technique that is strictly used to get girls on dates and into bed, I would like to see some numbers to back it up, especially when the technique is something not ordinary and causes us to speculate about how good it actually is. This technique is not good. YOU giving a girl YOUR # means that there is a good chance she will not call on average, especially after a random short cold approach convo. When the girl gives you HER #, you are 100% in control........and mostly she will get flaky over the phone only if you sound like a chump when you actually do call her up.

Bro, I agree with the results of giving the number instead of taking it. Anyone that gives advice, I don't need to verify their abilities by their success rate. If I think I can make the technique work, I will put my touch on it and make it work. If I don't, I dismiss the tech. Done deal.

FJ

 

[Freddy1]

I need to ask this:

1) How many call backs from the women? How many did you give numbers to?

2) Whats your age? How do you rate yourself in the terms of appearance? (1-10 scale)


I knew this girl that had an older guy who gave her his number (he was on a street corner giving out numbers) but she Never call the guy, she wasnt the slightest interested.
(btw This was like 10 years ago).

 

[Derek Flint]

Terrible tip.

You're the Man. You lead. You get the number, make the call, setup the date, make the first move, etc...

By giving out your number and not getting hers, you're blowing yourself out.

 

[Mr_knowit_all]

Some of you guys will never understand this concept. You're so stuck on this "Be a man-take the lead" bullshyt that you can't even see straight.

YOU ARE BEING THE MAN. By putting the ball in her court, you're weeding out those with low interest level. If she doesn't call you, so what? What's the difference between what I'm suggesting and asking for her number? She can still say no, or give you a fake number. At least this way, if she calls you, you know she's interested. You're not waiting around for any particular girl to call you, you're out gaming.

I've tried this technique approximately 20 times. Of which I think 3 women called me. That doesn't sound like a lot, but it's 15 percent. That sure beats the shyt out of the 2 percent success rate most guys get with cold approaches.