Nexting Girls Is A Waste Of Time

[the305]

the305 is actually a guy who thinks for himself, and doesn´t go with the flow.
Nexting is actually the thing that kills your chances completly. You might have little chance with a girl that shows no interest, but you have ZERO CHANCE when you next, note : don´t confuse of course with a tactic of no contact from your part for while... I´m talking about a next wich you have no intention or you will never contact her again.

Of course nexting is good for "saving face", but if your goal is massive fvcking you must keep all potential options available. It is simply stupid to chase only one girl that shows little interest, but if you are playing a dozen, you haven nothing to lose, and considering female lunacy, she could change her mind.

And there are the cases where a girl pretends to be disinterested, and you next her because you tought you had no chances....

good post, anyone who knows me in person, holds my words as gold when ever i talk about getting chicks, because they see the girls i sleep with along with my home girls i chill with on the regular.

i do what gets me the chicks I want, i dont play the numbers game and just have fun with whatever the odds give me, unlike the majority of the board, thats not developing a true skill, thats checking every vending machine for a quarter until you have enough change for a can get a free soda.

 

[Thundernuts]

Okay, i understand the arguement from both sides and I'm putting in my two cents hoping to god u people read this.

First off-Everything on this website is meant to increase your chances, nothing is written in stone to be 100% effective, just most likely.

Second-With the big txting and IM movement thats been going on, communication with women has beome less and less personal, and lets face it, for most people working towards a LTR that doesn't work in our favor.

To the OP, you are correct in stating, but from my personal experience going after a girl who blew me off is a complete waste of time. It's like trying to start from the bottom because whatever made her IL go down is still there its just being suppressed for the time being. All the nights and days you spend trying to get this girl to let her gaurd down could be more effectively used talking to another girl who technically has a better chance of being successful because as far as the history is concerned the new girl is a clean slate.

Since everything is a guideline you are encouraged to try things out for yourself, experiment, who knows things might work out, but our own experiences has taught us that keeping a girl who just flaked on us and went cold is a waste. Nothing venture nothing gained right?

One more thing, if you do get the girl in bed and you just remember all that ****ed up **** she did, how she quit talking to you and you found out she went and ****ed some guy she talked to for two weeks while you spent three months talking to her, take a bunch of pics of her naked BE SURE TO GET HER FACE IN THE SHOTS and send those *****es im talking website links to them on facebook and myspace so all her friends can see, if she gets on your ass tell her to **** off and she showed her body to the whole god damn town anyways so might as well just put them online so she can **** people and make some money perhaps, your investing in her life and making yourself feel better.

I mean thats if you want to make her regret doing that ****...something i have always thought about lol.

 

[Jitterbug]

Every guy in this thread should look up "sunk costs" on Wikipedia.

 

[Galactus]

If she has already nexted you, then why are you even still thinking about her? If you're going to be a real man who is worthy of the highest quality pu$$y, then you need to move on from the women who can't appreciate what you have to offer. Delete her number. Do not for one second let her think she has more value than you. In the short term, you might blow it with a few broads you really wanted to get with, but you will have gained self-respect, and your standards will become apparent to all, and you will soon be pulling in only the best.

Stop thinking like a little man and start seeing the big picture.

 

[the305]

If she has already nexted you, then why are you even still thinking about her? If you're going to be a real man who is worthy of the highest quality pu$$y, then you need to move on from the women who can't appreciate what you have to offer. Delete her number. Do not for one second let her think she has more value than you. In the short term, you might blow it with a few broads you really wanted to get with, but you will have gained self-respect, and your standards will become apparent to all, and you will soon be pulling in only the best.

Stop thinking like a little man and start seeing the big picture.

i really do hope your kidding and not serious, because if your serious , you sound like a brain washed cult leader on a jerry springer show, and id advise you to seek some help, im being 100% serious

 

[handle]

I always felt that "nexting" was different for AFCs and for DJs:

When you tell an AFC to next, it's because they need to understand oneitis, they need to stop "chasing", they need to stop putting all their thoughts and energies toward this girl. So AFC nexting is a cut-all-contact thing. It's a learning tool.

When you're no longer an AFC, you don't really need to "next"... But obviously if some girl isn't responsive then you stop wasting your time. No need for an abrupt cut of all contact... You just phase out of touch for a while. You know, like normal people with busy lives who just can't seem to meet up.

 

[handle]

To add on: I think just about every hard fast rule in the forum (3 second rule? does anyone here actually tell themselves they have 3 seconds to act or that's it, even if it's clearly not a good moment yet?) is GREATLY overexaggerated for the benefit of the fresh people who are clueless. C'mon, real life is more subtle than that.

 

[the305]

I always felt that "nexting" was different for AFCs and for DJs:

When you tell an AFC to next, it's because they need to understand oneitis, they need to stop "chasing", they need to stop putting all their thoughts and energies toward this girl. So AFC nexting is a cut-all-contact thing. It's a learning tool.

When you're no longer an AFC, you don't really need to "next"... But obviously if some girl isn't responsive then you stop wasting your time. No need for an abrupt cut of all contact... You just phase out of touch for a while. You know, like normal people with busy lives who just can't seem to meet up.

agreed, although honestly i could careless about a pua dj afc label. I advise guys who want to succeed on the most OPTIMAL path, i could equally careless about males divas that care more about their precious ego then getting laid, because after you get laid, you obviously know who has the power

 

[loveshogun]

To add on: I think just about every hard fast rule in the forum (3 second rule? does anyone here actually tell themselves they have 3 seconds to act or that's it, even if it's clearly not a good moment yet?) is GREATLY overexaggerated for the benefit of the fresh people who are clueless. C'mon, real life is more subtle than that.

True.

But my assumption is that anyone who needs this advice (as I did, many years ago), has no idea about the subtleties of life.

So they need their training wheels.

Crawl before you walk, before you run, before you drive.

 

[Lucifero]

i really do hope your kidding and not serious, because if your serious , you sound like a brain washed cult leader on a jerry springer show, and id advise you to seek some help, im being 100% serious

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr279/Mark-CFC/Wallpaper%20and%20other%20things/189-hehehe-you-silly-*****1.jpg

 

[Lucifero]

agreed, although honestly i could careless about a pua dj afc label. I advise guys who want to succeed on the most OPTIMAL path, i could equally careless about males divas that care more about their precious ego then getting laid, because after you get laid, you obviously know who has the power

Male divas? wtf? No straight man would ever say that.

No goddamn women on the forum! ***** get off this ****ing forum you SLUT! Go suck on some **** or find something else to do with your free time, we dont want you here!!!

:trouble:

 

[Solomon]

I see were 305 is coming from, in the game nothing is black and white however self-respect is needed and that's what guys like Galatcus is trying to say instead of talking theory let me give you a scenario that happened to me last week


Girl A--I banged her almost three weeks ago on the first date, she gets buyers remorse acts weird and withdraws. I call her/text her trying to do some damage control, she doesn't respond back and if she does it's usually the next day. I leave her alone a few days we talk again but the vibe has changed. I text her trying to get her to see me again, I know it's a loss cause but I gotta keep the defense honest and pull a "Tom Brady"(to those that know what is, that's when TB throw into double coverage, he does that purposely to keep the defense honest, the same is done with game, I do this to let the girl know what it is, can't over-game all the time) Eventually after some more texting (and me even calling her out for being shady multiple times) she agrees to meet me again but flakes no call or text or nothing.

Now sosuave mantra says If I would have used the 2 strike rule after my second phone call she would have been gone.
I didn't follow the prize mentality either, so who got nexted? should I be calling her again in the future? These questions are irrelevant if your out obtaining more women!

305 if your only care about getting laid then yeah call her again or text her again in the future(as I did, but I didn't wait a month, why should I when I already banged her?), but to me I already did waaaay more then I'm suppose to. If you have a lot of girls on your team, then letting one go isn't a big deal, you know what you do you find a new chick.

I break the rules all the time, rules that guys may consider "AFC" my game is high risk though, I escalate fast because I realize how buying temperature can fade. This is all based on my screening, her interest levels, qualifying etc. A lot of girls now a days have a lot of options, and guess what, just cause you banged her doesn't mean shiit, a lot of girls are like guys now a days. They'll do a one night stand and never call you again, but when you meet them tell ya that they want a "relationship"(girl game so she doesn't look like a slut, another social convention)

So yeah in terms of initial numbers, don't NEXT and try again in the future, but if you have Game, and options this topic isn't even an issue, you do what I do, find/get with another girl, this rule in theory may sound great but what if you dealing with a girl who flaked on you multiple times? what if a girl makes out with your buddy? It ain't black and white now is it 305?

:yes:

p.s. I'm loving this discussion btw!

 

[Galactus]

305, enjoy the toothless crack wh0res that have already kicked you to the curb. Spend the rest of your life groveling before women who add no value to your life, and making it easier for the real winners of the world. Now, I'm going to practice what I preach.

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXT!!!!!

 

[joe henny]

I see were 305 is coming from, in the game nothing is black and white however self-respect is needed and that's what guys like Galatcus is trying to say instead of talking theory let me give you a scenario that happened to me last week


Girl A--I banged her almost three weeks ago on the first date, she gets buyers remorse acts weird and withdraws. I call her/text her trying to do some damage control, she doesn't respond back and if she does it's usually the next day. I leave her alone a few days we talk again but the vibe has changed. I text her trying to get her to see me again, I know it's a loss cause but I gotta keep the defense honest and pull a "Tom Brady"(to those that know what is, that's when TB throw into double coverage, he does that purposely to keep the defense honest, the same is done with game, I do this to let the girl know what it is, can't over-game all the time) Eventually after some more texting (and me even calling her out for being shady multiple times) she agrees to meet me again but flakes no call or text or nothing.

Now sosuave mantra says If I would have used the 2 strike rule after my second phone call she would have been gone.
I didn't follow the prize mentality either, so who got nexted? should I be calling her again in the future? These questions are irrelevant if your out obtaining more women!

305 if your only care about getting laid then yeah call her again or text her again in the future(as I did, but I didn't wait a month, why should I when I already banged her?), but to me I already did waaaay more then I'm suppose to. If you have a lot of girls on your team, then letting one go isn't a big deal, you know what you do you find a new chick.

I break the rules all the time, rules that guys may consider "AFC" my game is high risk though, I escalate fast because I realize how buying temperature can fade. This is all based on my screening, her interest levels, qualifying etc. A lot of girls now a days have a lot of options, and guess what, just cause you banged her doesn't mean shiit, a lot of girls are like guys now a days. They'll do a one night stand and never call you again, but when you meet them tell ya that they want a "relationship"(girl game so she doesn't look like a slut, another social convention)

So yeah in terms of initial numbers, don't NEXT and try again in the future, but if you have Game, and options this topic isn't even an issue, you do what I do, find/get with another girl, this rule in theory may sound great but what if you dealing with a girl who flaked on you multiple times? what if a girl makes out with your buddy? It ain't black and white now is it 305?

:yes:

p.s. I'm loving this discussion btw!

If a ***** ever flacked on me she would cease to exist in my eyes. good post Solomon

 

[the305]

I didn't say hit a girl up until she is completely annoyed by you and on the brink of filing a restraining order. Thats the obvious so I didn't think I had to mention it, but apparently I have to?

If i followed the advice on this board, I wouldn't of slept with 20-30 girls that flaked out on me at some point, i'm not an emotional little girl who cries over a few non returned phone calls, i want something i go for it, i thought that was being a MAN, not running away every time a challenge comes up.

 

[Iceberg]

I didn't say hit a girl up until she is completely annoyed by you and on the brink of filing a restraining order. Thats the obvious so I didn't think I had to mention it, but apparently I have to?

If i followed the advice on this board, I wouldn't of slept with 20-30 girls that flaked out on me at some point, i'm not an emotional little girl who cries over a few non returned phone calls, i want something i go for it, i thought that was being a MAN, not running away every time a challenge comes up.

For being so confident, you sure get kinda peeved whenever people question you.

And I wouldn't consider backing away from a flake to be "running away from a challenge". In your opinion, Nexting a flake is a sign of a fragile ego. In someone else's opinion, pursuing a women who has flaked on you is the sign of a weak ego.

There's no black and white to it.

I personally am not "crying over a few missed phone calls". I'm admitting to myself that this one didn't work out, and getting ready to go find a new one. With some guys on sosuave, Nexting is a vengeance thing. With me, it's about prioritizing.

 

[the305]

if you want to get laid more, you do not next a girl over such petty things, you be persistent, to a degree obviously. theres a difference between being persistent and needy slash annoying.

I don't know about you but id rather sit home with a chick im about to bang rather then sit home alone feeling like a so called "MAN" because I cut off a girl.

this is taking an approach to get women and optimizing it to get more women..

i took statistics 101 not ego 101.

 

[Thundernuts]

I personally am not "crying over a few missed phone calls". I'm admitting to myself that this one didn't work out, and getting ready to go find a new one. With some guys on sosuave, Nexting is a vengeance thing. With me, it's about prioritizing.

FINALLY THE BERG GOT INTO THIS ONE

You can either forget about her or hit her up again after time goes by and see if the situation can change but either way it is about your own priorities. Might not be the best analogy but its kind of quitting smoking. Are you gonna keep going just because you've been smoking for a few years now, or are you gonna stop and start fresh.

Whatever works for the individual is best for the individual but just because it doesn't work for someone else(myself included) doesn't make us wrong and you right.

And yeah i can see the statistics in your thinking but bottom line is there are thousands if not more different scenarios that a man can run into to make him next a woman. Ego has nothing to do with leaving a chick who is gonna leave you, i dont know what kind of education you have, but from my own "statistics" i can tell when im wasting my time.
I mean i know there are reasons why you would get back into it with the girl but again these "statistics" mean **** when we are talking about women because there are no facts that explain why Z is the result of X.

 

[the305]

if you want to get laid more, you do not next a girl over such petty things, you be persistent, to a degree obviously,

if you think sending 1 text messages a month later is a "waste of your time" you are delusional.

i advise people to take the most optimal route to get the girl they want, not some silly technique to cut off all chances of sleeping with the girl you want to sleep.

case closed.

 

[sodbuster]

If you keep training them that they can flake and STILL have you when it's convenient for THEM[they have it, you want it], we will never break the behavior. maybe getting YOUR rocks off is that important to you,but I'm way past playing games with children. Sex isn't worth the ****. Has my libido slowed down?Not a bit. BUT, I've been laid once or twice[must be twice,have 2 sons] and don't believe I should have to waste my time. She is either grown up enough to know what she wants or she isn't worth my time.