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Nexting Girls Is A Waste Of Time

the305

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Thats right, when you next a girl and don't contact her anymore you are throwing away all the time you spent on getting her number in the first place.

There is NO reason to next a girl unless she is a negative impact on your life. If you texted and called her 2-3 times and she didnt respond, WHO CARES? You save her in your phone and hit her up with a text in a month.

It usually comes down to you messed your whole approach to get to knew her up or shes interested in another guy, either way, thats all forgotten about in a few weeks - So hit her up with a text and you be be surprised at how many pick up can be saved from this SIMPLE technique.
 

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wrong.


in fact it's the exact opposite.

at the end of the day, chasing a woman who has shown low interest, is just ****ing inefficient. it's like trying to squeeze the last bit of toothpaste out the tube when if you went in the pantry you have like 5 more boxes of toothpaste if you just took your lazy ass up and went and opened one.


you might get toothpaste out the tube, you might not, more than likely you won't and if you did, it's not going to be enough to make it worth your time.

the most efficent thing you can do is next a woman who is not showing interest in you.

secondly, put yourself in a woman's shoes. why would i want to date a man who keeps coming at me, after i have in so many words or actions made it known i was not interested. obviously he doesn't have options and if he does, they aren't as good as i am, and if they aren't as good as i am, he's just confirmed why i'm not ****ing him in the first place, because he's not good enough for me.


it's a waste of time. you either are in or you aren't. don't go around chasing women that aren't into you, too many, way too many out there.


that's not to say, don't try. but there is a fine line between being persistent and chasing. if i like a woman enough to ask for her number i'm going to try a few times. but at the same time, i make it known, that my time is valuable and i'm not going to waste it on someone who isn't into me.

which is what it comes down to. how do you value your time? if you are chasing women who aren't showing interest, obviously, not enough.

I'll say this and i'm out. I told this story before, 100% true. The first real girl I had a grown people relationship with, the girl I found, at least the first one, becuase of this site. saw her in dillards, flirted, i could tell she was digging me, followed me to the food court, we ate, switched numbers, i was supposed to take her out the next night. flaked. said something came up. said i was going to take her out again, flaked. something came up. the next night i calle dher and told her what the deal was, look, i'm goin to put my cards on the table, you seem fun, and i'm kinda diggin you and would like to get to know you better, i dont' know what you have going on in your life but whatever it is, i'm not mad, **** happens, but my time is too important, so this is what i am going to do. i'm going take you out sunday, at 7pm. I hope you would come with me as I want to kick it with you. if you flake, no hard feelins, but you won't hear from me again. this was like wednesday, she called me at work the next day and asked ME could i take her out that night.. i had plans but i could tell she was really interested so i canceled. said if i would not have done that, she would have just flaked again but that sparked her interest big time. ****ed like rabbits the whole night lol.

my whole dating phislophy is built around the promise that i'm blunt and dont' play around you are going to know how i feel about something or someone, you either get down or get out so i can move on to someone who will get down.


we ended up dating for a year and a half and i damn near proposed until i realized she was just too stupid and i wasn't ready for that.
 

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backbreaker said:
wrong.


in fact it's the exact opposite.

at the end of the day, chasing a woman who has shown low interest, is just ****ing inefficient. it's like trying to squeeze the last bit of toothpaste out the tube when if you went in the pantry you have like 5 more boxes of toothpaste if you just took your lazy ass up and went and opened one.


you might get toothpaste out the tube, you might not, more than likely you won't and if you did, it's not going to be enough to make it worth your time.

the most efficent thing you can do is next a woman who is not showing interest in you.

secondly, put yourself in a woman's shoes. why would i want to date a man who keeps coming at me, after i have in so many words or actions made it known i was not interested. obviously he doesn't have options and if he does, they aren't as good as i am, and if they aren't as good as i am, he's just confirmed why i'm not ****ing him in the first place, because he's not good enough for me.


it's a waste of time. you either are in or you aren't. don't go around chasing women that aren't into you, too many, way too many out there.


that's not to say, don't try. but there is a fine line between being persistent and chasing. if i like a woman enough to ask for her number i'm going to try a few times. but at the same time, i make it known, that my time is valuable and i'm not going to waste it on someone who isn't into me.

which is what it comes down to. how do you value your time? if you are chasing women who aren't showing interest, obviously, not enough.

I'll say this and i'm out. I told this story before, 100% true. The first real girl I had a grown people relationship with, the girl I found, at least the first one, becuase of this site. saw her in dillards, flirted, i could tell she was digging me, followed me to the food court, we ate, switched numbers, i was supposed to take her out the next night. flaked. said something came up. said i was going to take her out again, flaked. something came up. the next night i calle dher and told her what the deal was, look, i'm goin to put my cards on the table, you seem fun, and i'm kinda diggin you and would like to get to know you better, i dont' know what you have going on in your life but whatever it is, i'm not mad, **** happens, but my time is too important, so this is what i am going to do. i'm going take you out sunday, at 7pm. I hope you would come with me as I want to kick it with you. if you flake, no hard feelins, but you won't hear from me again. this was like wednesday, she called me at work the next day and asked ME could i take her out that night.. i had plans but i could tell she was really interested so i canceled. said if i would not have done that, she would have just flaked again but that sparked her interest big time. ****ed like rabbits the whole night lol.

my whole dating phislophy is built around the promise that i'm blunt and dont' play around you are going to know how i feel about something or someone, you either get down or get out so i can move on to someone who will get down.


we ended up dating for a year and a half and i damn near proposed until i realized she was just too stupid and i wasn't ready for that.
This guy 305 gives out horrible advice
 

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it's not about finding a quantity, but rather finding quality.
once you learn that someone doesn't meet your specifications when you quantify them , you have to next them because if you don't, then you are wasting your time.
and here's a link to a previous thread on the subject.
read rollo's response.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=141511
 

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I think there's some truth in both viewpoints here. Some guys on this board are too quick to NEXT girls before its really necessary, as long as one doesn't come across as creepy/needy then that isn't necessarily a bad thing. If the girl is worth it and you play the game properly, persistence can pay off. It has in my case before.

On the other hand, chasing after a girl who is showing no interest is inefficient and a waste of ones time. If there has been little investment in her from the beginning, its best not to keep going and to just meet someone new.

Shades of grey as always...
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Galactus

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Nexting is vital to your quality of life.

Some people will pop in a DVD and, after five minutes, realize they aren't enjoying the movie. But they spent a certain amount of time choosing the movie and paying for it, and whatever time or energy they put into it, so they feel they need to sit through the whole painful experience to balance out the equation.

I won't do that. My time is too important. I try to make the best decisions, often failing at that, but at least I try to make them quickly. If it was a bad decision, I accept the loss on my investment and move on.

If the movie sucked, it's not a reflection on you. Once you realize it sucks and is not likely to improve, reject it and move on. Sitting all the way through it is not going to give you a return on your investment. Cut your losses and run.

If a woman sucks (and not in a good way), it's also not a reflection on you. Next time you will make a better decision.
 

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Tesl said:
I think there's some truth in both viewpoints here. Some guys on this board are too quick to NEXT girls before its really necessary, as long as one doesn't come across as creepy/needy then that isn't necessarily a bad thing. If the girl is worth it and you play the game properly, persistence can pay off. It has in my case before.

On the other hand, chasing after a girl who is showing no interest is inefficient and a waste of ones time. If there has been little investment in her from the beginning, its best not to keep going and to just meet someone new.

Shades of grey as always...
perhaps there should be some discussion about how to qualify.
you know a whole "know how to hold 'em, know how to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to run" sort of discussion.
 

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When you should next a girl

Rule ZERO - be the best version of you possible. If this is not what you're doing, it doesn't f*ckin' matter what else you do.

This advice is only for nexting possible LTRs, because honestly, why would you bother looking into nexting a STR or ONS unless the girl is off-the-wall batsh*t crazy?

Without further ado, here's part of LoveShogun's guide to whether to next a girl you'd consider LTR with... remember that this is purely based on my preferences.

If she...

1) Shows zero interest. You're the best you can be at the time, and she's not interested. Don't hate, just next.

2) Is rude. Rudeness is inexcusable for children. Why would you accept that in a grown-a*s woman?

3) Is not independent. You know that thing called "work" that's been around since the beginning of time? Yeah, any LTR prospect needs to know what work is like.

4) Is cruel. You know what this means. Is she ruthless with the people that she calls "friends?" Does she flip her sh*t and cut them off when she decides she's upset with them? Yeah, avoid that.

5) Has no sense of priorities. She cries when her hair appointment gets cancelled, but when her electricity gets shut off because she forgot to pay the bill, it's "funny."

6) She picks fights. If you make a tiny mistake with something and fess up to it, but she drills you about it anyway, you have to consider what will happen when you get into some trouble and need her help. Guess who will kick you while you're down?
**Disclaimer for all the guys who are actually competent enough to realize that all of this advice is bendable:**

If you have a list of 20 things you look for in a LTR girl, cut it down to the top 5 most important to you, and DO NOT compromise on those 5. The other 15, you will need to really think about what is worth compromising - and when you DO compromise, make sure you're getting something in return, because trust me, she doesn't think YOU'RE perfect either, so you'll need that padding.

Honestly, the reason nexting when considering LTRs is so important to me is because an LTR can last a long f*ckin' time, and I refuse to cash in on the best years of my life with someone who doesn't fit the bill - I'd be happier with my casual plate-spinning.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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the305 is actually a guy who thinks for himself, and doesn´t go with the flow.
Nexting is actually the thing that kills your chances completly. You might have little chance with a girl that shows no interest, but you have ZERO CHANCE when you next, note : don´t confuse of course with a tactic of no contact from your part for while... I´m talking about a next wich you have no intention or you will never contact her again.

Of course nexting is good for "saving face", but if your goal is massive fvcking you must keep all potential options available. It is simply stupid to chase only one girl that shows little interest, but if you are playing a dozen, you haven nothing to lose, and considering female lunacy, she could change her mind.

And there are the cases where a girl pretends to be disinterested, and you next her because you tought you had no chances....
 

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maqnetik said:
im not a degenerate gambler and i know when to walk away. why chase bad money with good money on a cold table?

"time invested" is an emotional hook and manipulation trigger that simply wont work with me.


:eek:
some people will never understand that because they have become slaves to pussy.....can't & won't let go of any woman that comes their way without getting a 'return' for their investment first. The problem with this is, the more time you invest, the harder it is to let go.

This is why it's also necessary to get a women to invest in you first without you investing anything in her.
 

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the305 said:
Thats right, when you next a girl and don't contact her anymore you are throwing away all the time you spent on getting her number in the first place.
Not really, I've number closed girls within 2 minutes of meeting them, the probability of a flake with that is quite high
There is NO reason to next a girl unless she is a negative impact on your life. If you texted and called her 2-3 times and she didnt respond, WHO CARES? You save her in your phone and hit her up with a text in a month.

It usually comes down to you messed your whole approach to get to knew her up or shes interested in another guy, either way, thats all forgotten about in a few weeks - So hit her up with a text and you be be surprised at how many pick up can be saved from this SIMPLE technique.
While in theory what you say has some truth
It's more so the exception then the rule. This whole "mass texting" movement that bloggers/community is on, does work to a poiint, if you approach a ton of chicks and keep recycling/adding new chicks to your list.

But If I'm "the prize" this rule goes totally against that mentality. you see If I'm the prize and she doesn't recognize that, why bother? why continue to chase/pursue someone who doesn't want me too? this to me is waste of time

case in point

I was suppose to hang with a chick who I truly didn't wanna hang with, but due to boredom I caved in, when the chick was 5 minutes away from my house she texted me some bullsh*t saying something came up. Now in this regard I shouldn't next? to me that's a no brainier it's an automatic Next

Chasing after girls who don't wanna be pursued is a waste of time, when I could be pursuing girls who want to be be pursued and hell will even pursue/chase me.

I learned the game so i could find women who are interested in me, and not CHASE after ones who aren't!
 

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I disagree with the original poster. You can AFFORD to next girls. There are so many single women out there... even ones with boyfriends that are looking for an excuse to leave. I think you're just making excuses for yourself to stop looking, approaching, closing and ..
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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maqnetik said:
im not a degenerate gambler and i know when to walk away. why chase bad money with good money on a cold table?

"time invested" is an emotional hook and manipulation trigger that simply wont work with me.


:eek:
teacha said:
some people will never understand that because they have become slaves to pussy.....can't & won't let go of any woman that comes their way without getting a 'return' for their investment first. The problem with this is, the more time you invest, the harder it is to let go.

This is why it's also necessary to get a women to invest in you first without you investing anything in her.
effort = suffering

:cool:
 

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MY RESPONSE

So let me get this straight, you are all convinced that sending one text message to a girl one month later is a "waste of time" when it only increases your odds of meeting up with her again, chicks change their minds every day of the week.

I've had over 50+ girls meet up with me(most i ended up sleeping with) after they flaked out or didnt respond to text/call just from one simple text message.

Is that one text message that takes 8 seconds really a waste of time or is it too hard for your ego to accept that maybe you didnt do a good enough job in getting her interested in you.

Lets be honest here.
 

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the305 said:
MY RESPONSE

So let me get this straight, you are all convinced that sending one text message to a girl one month later is a "waste of time" when it only increases your odds of meeting up with her again, chicks change their minds every day of the week.

I've had over 50+ girls meet up with me(most i ended up sleeping with) after they flaked out or didnt respond to text/call just from one SIMPLE text message.

Is that one text message that takes 8 seconds really a waste of time or is it too hard for your ego to accept that maybe you didnt do a good enough job in getting her interested in you. Lets be honest here.

.....
Is it too hard for your ego to accept that after flaking out on you, the girl isn't interested?

Flaking on you is a lack of interest. If you want to talk about ego, I'd say that the guy who pursues a woman who isn't interested in him is doing so to save his ego.

No, sending one text message doesn't hurt. But hanging onto your failures doesn't help. If a girl doesn't like me then she doesn't like me. My style isn't for everyone. So if I ask her out, and she flakes, then it's my right to move on.

Putting a girl on the pedestal by asking her out after she ignored you seems like a terrible way to start a relationship. No?
 

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the305 said:
MY RESPONSE

I've had over 50+ girls meet up with me(most i ended up sleeping with) after they flaked out or didnt respond to text/call just from one simple text message.

Is that one text message that takes 8 seconds really a waste of time or is it too hard for your ego to accept that maybe you didnt do a good enough job in getting her interested in you.

Lets be honest here.
i should frame that
 

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It's never black and white like everyone on this thread seems to be thinking. Sometimes women flake and will be open to further dalliances and sometimes it means they won't.

Give yourself a two or three ask window or something. And try once again a little later. But at some point you DO have to move on. Otherwise you are a creep.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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