Never make it too straight forward for her

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

90% of the compliments I’ve received from women have been face.
As I said. ‘In my experience’.
Your mileage may vary.

Well, thankfully, guys have the option of working on (and working out) things that they actually have control over; muscle and abs.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

#1 Face
#2 Physique
#3 Height

These are the order of elimination filter. If she doesn't like your face, your out

Your physique and height may be able to compensate for a less than desirable face.

Unless your face is absolutely hideous, if you hit the gym and build muscle you should be able to get in the game.

 

[Bigpapa]

Pretty much. Last night I saw this guy who works at my gym, approach this girl that I've banged on and off (that currently hates my guts). He's taller and in much better shape than me. He's also a very socially savvy extrovert. While I'm not. This girl and I have nothing in common. Had lots of awkward forced conversations to pass the time. It's only face that allowed me to bang her, while he had her run away from him.

I saw recently some videos about how guys that had a bellow average face, with the proper clothes, haircut and colors become better looking

As a guy, if you really want to looks max, for sure hiring someone to help you out with clothes, haircut and clothes color will have a good ROI

women do it all the time, if they also add makeup then they can become from a 4 an 8 easily

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I saw recently some videos about how guys that had a bellow average face, with the proper clothes, haircut and colors become better looking

As a guy, if you really want to looks max, for sure hiring someone to help you out with clothes, haircut and clothes color will have a good ROI

women do it all the time, if they also add makeup then they can become from a 4 an 8 easily

One can gain a point in looks with just soft looksmaxxing.
Losing weight is probably the most important.

 

[Gamisch]

Your physique and height may be able to compensate for a less than desirable face.

Unless your face is absolutely hideous, if you hit the gym and build muscle you should be able to get in the game.

I agree.

Assuming a man does NOT have a steady long lasting LTR, it's always also a matter of "when everything is equal ". When you have a decent face but a dad bod, you will get replaced by a man with the same decent face but a better body. Same for money ,status ect. Its just the game.

Eventually you WILL run into a situation where you gonna be sorry you didn't "unlock" that extra feature you're missing. Especially when you do want one to stay a little longer aka catching feelz..(which is inherent to dealing with women). You might regret never hitting the gym, never saving money or never working in your style when you lose a great woman due to bs like that.

Confidence and overall demeanor also goes a long way, but most men need stuff like a good body and some cash to feel better about themselves.

There's also a case to be made about men who go through life without any struggle and marry young ,only to find out later she actually DID preferred that one ripped dude after all...those men will say F the redpill and will say "just be confident " .

 

[plumber]

I saw recently some videos about how guys that had a bellow average face, with the proper clothes, haircut and colors become better looking

As a guy, if you really want to looks max, for sure hiring someone to help you out with clothes, haircut and clothes color will have a good ROI

women do it all the time, if they also add makeup then they can become from a 4 an 8 easily

clothes are a big deal. guys often spend on cars or other high cost to gain points.

cars fit into money category. clothing fits into attraction category.

maybe clothing should be #4, as bad clothing can get an otherwise ok guy eliminated.

 

[Bigpapa]

clothes are a big deal. guys often spend on cars or other high cost to gain points.

cars fit into money category. clothing fits into attraction category.

maybe clothing should be #4, as bad clothing can get an otherwise ok guy eliminated.

Depends on the angle, but for sure looks > money

so unless money is really not a problem, better to put the money into the looks category as most of the things that will have a big impact are not that expensive

then if you really have extra money, better to put into plastic surgery than into money/ status category

I think that money/status should be something that should be touched towards the end, unless you have a thing for gold diggers / h00kers

as an idea, if the new bmw is 60k, with 60k put into your style / plastic surgery you can do a lot of things surgical or not that will have a way better ROI than the new bmw

I think that with 100k put into plastic surgery you should become above average in terms of looks and in theory average and sometimes above average girls should not be Problematic ( unless you are a moron )

you can go to cheap countries where the quality is good like Brazil / Venezuela / Cuba / Thailand to get the most for your bucks

Also, from my point of view if you live in a big city in a developed country, you do not really need a car to get by. It is really stressful to own a car in a big city , and in developed countries public transport is at least decent if not really good