Neglecting social life in teens and early 20s means you're screwed for life.

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

what's going on ambitious player. nice to see your new handle

lol I know what you are referring to but not him. I read his thread and it was all about women, I don't care about sex I care about being friends with cool guys.

he even complains about not being able to get white women, I have had tons of success with white women.

@backbreaker's post:

good job on your business but you have no idea.

I went to a college loaded with rich kids who had it all handed to them. Guys who could major in something simple and know when they are finished they have a good job waiting due to the connections of their parents. Many of these guys partied hard in college (they were obviously in the well off frats) and drove nice cars. Now they have good careers going for them, the whole rich get richer thing. On the same token I knew some kids who worked two jobs growing up and were amazing students but could only get into less prestigious schools due to being from backgrounds in which they could not be reach their full potential. Most sane people get mad when some guy that got drunk and partied in high school ends up doing the same thing in college and still manages to graduate and get a job that has decent pay due to family connections. I knew 4 guys like these, loud rude drunks who did the most messed up **** to people and 2 of them even got into trouble with the law. All wiped out like it is nothing and they have careers that pay well. These same guys love to rub their whole lifestyle into everyone's faces too.

The ultimate red pill about life, those that get a head start like a good high school education, rich parents, familiarity with the place they are in due to having grown up there, and good connections not only get to stay where they are but they get to enjoy their way through it. I am talking about all the rich girls in college, rich guys in college, and even the upper middle class. All of American culture like the media and movies along with commonly held society beliefs are geared towards these kids and their life experiences. Once yours doesn't reflect that, its "weird". All the while your middle class kid lucky enough to attend has to work a job along with getting good grades. You also have the poor kid who gets some scholarships but still had to make ends meet for college. When that kid makes it, he had to bust himself in the years everyone assumes to be your fun and party years or whatever they call those.

all this said to address your point assuming you changed your mind about me being ap.

 

[backbreaker]

now i'm 1000% confident that's who you are. you can change the name but the motifs of your posts are the exact same. lol iwant to say you're both but you're the same person lol, concerned with **** you can't change, your'e both in college and you are both whiny and you're concerned too much with partying before you get too old, yet not being able to.

lol you've exchanged the word "white" or "middle class/ upper class" and come back here to spew your bull****.


dude i spent my early 20's SMOKING CRACK lol. literally. You want to talk about a disadvantage. here you are *****ing about kids being born white / into families with wealth. And even when I realized that i had thrown away my 21-22.. really 21-23 year old years on drugs and shady people who did not care about me and not live life like i should, even when i had to not drink while all my friends were drinking because i wanted to make sure i didn't relapse, even when i was trying to lose weight to get back in shape to talk to chicks and there were dudes who fresh out of prison were gaming women i wanted, even when i lost chicks who liked me because i wsn't "fun" because i didn't drink or do drugs, i was never on my worst of days the whiny ***** that you are.


you are pathetic. you are everything that is wrong with the manosphere. you sit here on the forum and ask these questions over and over again.

Grab what little nuts you have, and say you know what, this is my life, and i'm gonna make the best of it. That's all you can do. The quicker you accecpt that the happier you'll be.


I normaly don't snap on posters, but i really, do not like you.

 

[Trump]

You watch too many movies bro. Where did you grow up? Life isn't one big orgy where everyone is having casual sex with hot girls and making millions and doing cocaine and living like Kim Kardashian.

I think a lot of guys on here should have enlisted in their teenage years, the "woe is me, I'm unlucky in life" crap disappears pretty fast. You are nobody there and will get humiliated, beaten and embarrassed if you get out on line.

I'm sure the guys who invented the Car, the Plane, the toaster, clean water, clothing, edible food, medicine, etc, etc, etc, didn't dwell on why they didn't get laid and have tons of sex in high school and college.

But who knows, maybe they did. :wave:

 

[skinnyguy]

I believe the SOS mantra is to just be confident in who you are and good things will follow. Should I put a bullet in my head just because I didn't get laid in high school?





The more emphasis you put on getting laid the more depressed you'll be. Funny thing is, the more you actually go about your life not caring about sex, the more you'll get laid (I think).

 

[zekko]

I don't think anybody is screwed. But having said that, people who build great skill in an area, and I mean exceptional skill, usually start that skill when they are young. Great guitarists, piano players, tennis players, golfers, whatever - they usually start in their teens or in thier single digits. So yeah, I can see that guys who have great success early on are at an advantage. It becomes second nature to them in a way that is difficult to fully emulate.

But that doesn't mean you can't find success, or that you should give up and stick your head in the sand. That's the quitter's way out.

 

[Mike32ct]

The OP talks about wanting other guys to hang with and meet girls with. I'll share this story.

Early in the game, I thought I needed other guys to hang with. I even joined a seduction lair. I won't say which one.

What a bunch of awful, weird mofos lol. Let's just say that a bunch of guys who ONLY care about getting poon aren't exactly friend material lol. The egos, the backstabbing/cawkblocking, and all turned me off.

One night in the club, I get fed up and ditched my "crew." I went to another floor of the club and sarged alone. I ended up getting my first makeout and solid number close from a 21 yo blonde.

That's when I realized that I didn't need other guys to hang with. It was lone wolf from then on.

It's an extreme example, but my point stands. You don't need anybody*.

*Inb4 a three page rant about how creepy it is to be alone lol

 

[Mike32ct]

I don't think anybody is screwed. But having said that, people who build great skill in an area, and I mean exceptional skill, usually start that skill when they are young. Great guitarists, piano players, tennis players, golfers, whatever - they usually start in their teens or in thier single digits. So yeah, I can see that guys who have great success early on are at an advantage. It becomes second nature to them in a way that is difficult to fully emulate.

But that doesn't mean you can't find success, or that you should give up and stick your head in the sand. That's the quitter's way out.

Agree with all the above.

 

[compleks]

I neglected my social life from about 19 through to 24.
Not completely, but enough that I didn't have any really close friends and was a little socially awkward. I missed out on some good times etc…
But I don't regret it at all, because I was focusing on other things. Now I'm in a really good place, have plenty of great friends, a great job, and a healthy outlook on life and relationships.
Plus the sex I'm getting now makes up for any I would have missed out on in my younger years.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I neglected my social life from about 19 through to 24.
Not completely, but enough that I didn't have any really close friends and was a little socially awkward. I missed out on some good times etc…
But I don't regret it at all, because I was focusing on other things. Now I'm in a really good place, have plenty of great friends, a great job, and a healthy outlook on life and relationships.
Plus the sex I'm getting now makes up for any I would have missed out on in my younger years.

When did you lose your virginity complerks?

 

[LorenzoVonM]

You're peddling some wishy washy, new age, horsesh1t. "If you believed something else then that would be true. " is one of the worst plans ever. True progress isn't based in "believing something else", it requires acknowledging reality and fact, then planning around it.
Take some responsibility and stop spreading your half-baked philosophy of wishes.

Not new age, its been around since the dawn of time. Everything starts with a belief. Take some time and read biographies of people who became successes in their chosen endeavor. They all had rock solid beliefs in what they wanted to do and become. That belief manifested itself into the actions they took to get there. They didn't sit around whining, woe is me, this is the way things are, nothing will ever change, I accept my circumstances. Boo-hooooooo.

Planning around reality? Please. If successful people did that they would never break new ground and barriers because reality would hold them back.

 

[SgtSplacker]

The best times to marry in my opinion are the 10 years after high school. Stifling your HS social life is a very bad thing.

Less good relationship prospects
Having kids too old is not good

When I was a kid I was basically permagrounded, and I definitely think that really affected my social life.

The friends and relationships you make when you are young like that have much easier or less compromise then the relationships you create as an adult. Compromise is critical in relationships. Ideally this kind of compromise is done when you are younger because it's easier than as an adult.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I was not talking about how much sex you have later on or what you get, but more about how to have that inner sense of self-worth as a result of what you do. It is all about that inner sense of self-confidence and belief in yourself, not about the sex. Can that really be controlled is my point of the thread.
Like I know guys in their mid 20s that get tons of sex but they are still bitter and angry about women because they came to the party late. One of these guys has cheated on women, made them cry, and laughed about it. Having talked to that guy he tells me about his AFC days though he does not even use that word. It makes you think what if this guy in his teenage years had a girlfriend and a close social circle, he would have not been this way at all.

It's like some kind of a point of no return ****. In this culture where pressure to get laid is everywhere (movies, books, etc.) and often hyped up (thank you hollywood) towards the young, when a guy in that category is not living anything remotely close to that kind of a life the damage adds up overtime. Some guys are going to remain AFCs forever but others who do break out of it seem to always hold that little chip on their shoulder or something of the sort which makes them into some terrible people. They have the sex but they end up so bitter and a lot of the Red Pill and Manosphere gurus are great examples of this.


@Backbreaker:

I finished school years ago bro. But I am concerned with partying a lot before I get old and have more responsibilities, or end up like guys on The Hangover. Its great you brought up the Manosphere, the writers of it were the main focus of this thread


@Zekko:

Right on the money man. Think about any sport, if you don't play it in high school you are not going to go pro, football and basketball stick out as such sports. Relate that to my post about social life and women.

@Mike32ct:

I am not talking about PUAs, those phukers are weird as ****, unaware of their social surroundings, and total aspies. Not even worth hanging out with. I am talking friends as in some fraternity brothers that do get laid or dudes you can chill with who aren't aspies and do have experience with the opposite sex.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I was not talking about how much sex you have later on or what you get, but more about how to have that inner sense of self-worth as a result of what you do. It is all about that inner sense of self-confidence and belief in yourself, not about the sex. Can that really be controlled is my point of the thread.
Like I know guys in their mid 20s that get tons of sex but they are still bitter and angry about women because they came to the party late. One of these guys has cheated on women, made them cry, and laughed about it. Having talked to that guy he tells me about his AFC days though he does not even use that word. It makes you think what if this guy in his teenage years had a girlfriend and a close social circle, he would have not been this way at all.

It's like some kind of a point of no return ****. In this culture where pressure to get laid is everywhere (movies, books, etc.) and often hyped up (thank you hollywood) towards the young, when a guy in that category is not living anything remotely close to that kind of a life the damage adds up overtime. Some guys are going to remain AFCs forever but others who do break out of it seem to always hold that little chip on their shoulder or something of the sort which makes them into some terrible people. They have the sex but they end up so bitter and a lot of the Red Pill and Manosphere gurus are great examples of this.


@Backbreaker:

I finished school years ago bro. But I am concerned with partying a lot before I get old and have more responsibilities, or end up like guys on The Hangover. Its great you brought up the Manosphere, the writers of it were the main focus of this thread


@Zekko:

Right on the money man. Think about any sport, if you don't play it in high school you are not going to go pro, football and basketball stick out as such sports. Relate that to my post about social life and women.

@Mike32ct:

I am not talking about PUAs, those phukers are weird as ****, unaware of their social surroundings, and total aspies. Not even worth hanging out with. I am talking friends as in some fraternity brothers that do get laid or dudes you can chill with who aren't aspies and do have experience with the opposite sex.

those guys in their mid-20's that are bitter and frustrated despite achieving success with women lately, are still bitter over not achieving it earlier, hell I don't blame them

 

[compleks]

When did you lose your virginity complerks?

21

I wasn't a complete hermit during those early years, and I had a 'girlfriend' for 2 of those years. But I was busy working towards other goals (obsessively).
Then I realised that my goals didn't actually matter and I began to invest more time into new and old friendships, people, and generally living/loving life.

I ended up here after reading the rational male, which really struck a chord with me.

 

[Costin]

It doesn't screw you for life since you can recover, but it is going to impact you negatively.

During my school years I was a social outcast and very awkward around girls, placing them on pedestals and treating them as they say they want to be treated not how they want to actually be treated.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

21

I wasn't a complete hermit during those early years, and I had a 'girlfriend' for 2 of those years. But I was busy working towards other goals (obsessively).
Then I realised that my goals didn't actually matter and I began to invest more time into new and old friendships, people, and generally living/loving life.

I ended up here after reading the rational male, which really struck a chord with me.

Doesn't sound like you were a total failure

 

[compleks]

Doesn't sound like you were a total failure

Haha, thanks mate.
It was mainly self inflicted social withdraw. But it all worked out for the best and I hardly ever cry myself to sleep anymore

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Haha, thanks mate.
It was mainly self inflicted social withdraw. But it all worked out for the best and I hardly ever cry myself to sleep anymore

Makes me regret my late teens and early 20's

 

[Mike32ct]

Misinformation.

Plenty of people party hard in college and are much more financially successful than you will ever be.

It's called managing your time. Work smart.

I'll stay out of this lol. But I will say that Social Leper raises an interesting point. There is this myth that the social/popular/party guy won't be successful in his career, and the studious hard working nerd will. Life isn't that simple.

Plenty of times, the popular guy IS more successful in his career due to his social skills, connections, salesmanship, and the confidence he gained by being popular with the ladies and having a lot of guy friends too.

Some nerds can end up underachievers despite their higher intelligence because things like rejection, bullying, etc. early on convince them they are no good or they are inferior to the social/popular people.

The "popular people" get their egos pumped up prior to entering the business world. The nerd gets his crushed (except for his good grades).

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

The truth is that majority of the people who are successful were born to successful families. The guys that party hard in college and end up making lots of money after college were connected at birth, had dads that could get them a nice job despite the guy being one of many that majored in business, and they never had to worry about money since parents paid for college. Those guys would have been successful had they not gone to college.


As I said, I knew frat boys that majored in communications and still had amazing careers because they knew once they have their degree they can get a great job.

The problem is most of us are not priviledged white boys. Most of us are middle class or below, are lucky to even go to college, and will be lucky to graduate with as little debt as possible. For us, partying hard is not really a possibility, we need to keep a high GPA so we can keep whatever scholarships we have.