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[vato]

Ok, so I've been texting this girl back and forth a couple of weeks.
She seems to be interested and she's the one usually initiating the first texts. A few weeks ago I called her but she didn't pick up the phone. So I thought I have to game her more through text.

I waited couple weeks and called her again yesterday. She didn't pick up. But texted me back "I'm in a meeting, can't answer my phone" I replied with "alright". She didn't call back so I thought to myself - Next!
Same night, I log into msn, she is online and says:

Her: Oh so you dont say hi nowadays
Me: Heey
Her: Oh goodnight (She didn't signout I knew she was playing games)
Me: haha you suck at this, its so clear
Her: I'm going to sleep now, good night (She was still online)
Me: AHAHAH
Her: Bye (Still online)
Me: I can read you like a book
Her: ahhaha just because of you I'm going to sleep now

then she signed out.

After 30 minutes I text her:

Me: Asleep yet?
Her: No
Me: What's up? Why you acting all crazy on msn?
Her: Crazy? Why won't you say hi? Acting all hard to hard..
Me: I get so nervous like you get when I call you
Her: I was at a meeting. I understand that you called me because you were bored (The first time I called her and she didn't pick up, she sent a text asking me why I had called her and I replied with "I was bored". She was quite upset about it though. So she fired it back at me here. Haha they don't forget comments like that)
Me: Just say it like it is: you're scared of me.. you don't dare talkin to me on the phone
Her: Why would I be scared? Meeting - do you know what that word means?
Me: But it's cool. Don't worry, I'll ease your burden. I won't call you again. Don't want you to get all scared like that.
Her: Haha but I will call you
Me: I know
Her: Good that you know that in advance
Me: I know a lot that you don't think I know
Her: Who do you think you are? You don't even know me
Me: Hahaha seems like I lit a fire under your ass. No I don't know you well enough but I know stuff in advance.
Her: Stuff like? ....You just want something to talk about
Me: No one is forcing you to answer

After that text she didn't answer me back. So what should I do from this point on? Did I go overboard with the ****iness? If I call her then my frame will seem weak because I told her I won't call her again. Should I text her or move on or is she just acting hard to get?

 

[Kailex]

Damn man, this was a disaster. What are you trying to accomplish?

Ok, so I've been texting this girl back and forth a couple of weeks.
She seems to be interested and she's the one usually initiating the first texts. A few weeks ago I called her but she didn't pick up the phone. So I thought I have to game her more through text.

I waited couple weeks and called her again yesterday. She didn't pick up. But texted me back "I'm in a meeting, can't answer my phone" I replied with "alright". She didn't call back so I thought to myself - Next!
Same night, I log into msn, she is online and says:

Her: Oh so you dont say hi nowadays
Me: Heey
Her: Oh goodnight (She didn't signout I knew she was playing games)
Me: haha you suck at this, its so clear
Her: I'm going to sleep now, good night (She was still online)
Me: AHAHAH
Her: Bye (Still online)
Me: I can read you like a book
Her: ahhaha just because of you I'm going to sleep now

then she signed out.

Are you stalking her? Just because she says "Good night" doesn't mean she HAS to sign out. If she says good night, take it as a sign that she isn't talking to you anymore for the night and leave it at that.

After 30 minutes I text her:

Why would you text her 30 minutes later? She already said "Good night". So why try to keep talking to her???

Me: Asleep yet?
Her: No
Me: What's up? Why you acting all crazy on msn?
Her: Crazy? Why won't you say hi? Acting all hard to hard..
Me: I get so nervous like you get when I call you

What??? What are you doing? First you are acting all "needy" and "confrontational". You are bringing up that she's acting crazy??? But you're the one who is pressing the issue of talking to her... you come off as the crazy one. And then on top of that, you tell her you get nervous when you talk to her??? Whatttttt??? WHYYYYYYY??? You're supposed to be a DJ... calm and cool... women don't make YOU nervous, you make THEM nervous.

Her: I was at a meeting. I understand that you called me because you were bored (The first time I called her and she didn't pick up, she sent a text asking me why I had called her and I replied with "I was bored". She was quite upset about it though. So she fired it back at me here. Haha they don't forget comments like that)

Because you were bored??? Women text because they are bored or call their girlfriends because they are bored. Men call because they want to confirm a date or set up a date, not because they are bored... are you female??? Come on man. You should know better than this. You telling her that you are bored means that you have nothing better to do... you're supposed to be a man, spinning plates and living a busy lifestyle. You being bored = AVAILABLE.

Me: Just say it like it is: you're scared of me.. you don't dare talkin to me on the phone

Why should she? At this point you have confirmed that you are needy, desperate, too available and terrible with the C&F, so far. I've yet to see the C&F in this whole conversation. It looks more like S&D (Scary & Desperate).

Her: Why would I be scared? Meeting - do you know what that word means?

At this point, she is just annoyed with you. She's wondering if you have any common sense at all.

Me: But it's cool. Don't worry, I'll ease your burden. I won't call you again. Don't want you to get all scared like that.

Hellooooooooooooooooo AFC.

Her: Haha but I will call you
Me: I know
Her: Good that you know that in advance

Translation: She'll only call you if the other 13 guys in line before you, ditch her...

Me: I know a lot that you don't think I know
Her: Who do you think you are? You don't even know me
Me: Hahaha seems like I lit a fire under your ass. No I don't know you well enough but I know stuff in advance.

This just sounds stalkerish. You know stuff about her that she doesn't think you know??? Dude, I'd be terrified if I was a woman at this point.

Her: Stuff like? ....You just want something to talk about
Me: No one is forcing you to answer

She knows what you are doing and what you were doing was baiting her into talking more. Oh man, this definitely was a disaster.

No one is forcing her to answer, but man, the whole text conversation just seems creepy.

Let's recap:

1) She says good night but doesn't sign off.
2) You keep bothering her because she hasn't signed off.
3) She signs off finally (BECAUSE OF YOU).
4) You text her 30 minutes later after she deliberately avoided you.
5) You try C&F... fail quite badly.
6) Basically admit to knowing stuff about her, as a true stalker would.
7) Tell her that you will ease her burden by cutting contact, the true mark of an AFC.
8) Then try to imply that she is talking to you because it's her choice and not because you have been baiting her and following her the whole time.


Sound close enough?

After that text she didn't answer me back. So what should I do from this point on? Did I go overboard with the ****iness? If I call her then my frame will seem weak because I told her I won't call her again. Should I text her or move on or is she just acting hard to get?

Your frame is already terrible. You went overboard with the creepiness.
She's not acting hard to get... she's terrified of you.

Go read the Bible, and the Book of Pook, PLEASE.

I was trying to be as objective as I could throughout the whole analysis, but it came down as downright creepy.

Maybe someone else can add onto this or MIGHT have a completely different opinion from mine... but this is my POV, and I can only say that it's horrific.

 

[bukowski_merit]

I agree with Kailex.

You're being ****y but in a bratty nerd kid kind of way (im not calling you a nerd, just saying that in school there was always that bratty nerd kid who thought he knew everything that no one took serious; that is the way you're coming off to her!)

And you're not being funny in any way, shape, or form in these messages.

Remember if you're going to use it, it' ****Y AND FUNNY!

---
You want to scare women away? Keep doing what you're doing.

You want to keep them?
- Get out in the real world and stop doing the internet thing! (don't care what your circumstance is!)
- Learn how to add humor to your ****y; and as a note: ****y+funny comes off a million times better IN PERSON.
- Never tell a woman that you're nervous about anything unless you're doing something really advanced (it's called demonstrating a false weakness and should only be used if your value is perceived as too high by her; which is not the case with you!)
- Never tell a woman you text her because you were bored! You should only text with the purpose to setup a date, have "very very small" talk, or to seduce (talk dirty).
- Never ask women why they're acting crazy. YOU'RE A ROCK - YOU DON'T CARE! Be unaffected.
- Let women breath and miss you!
- Stop calling women who don't have time for you.

 

[Iceberg]

After that text she didn't answer me back. So what should I do from this point on? Did I go overboard with the ****iness? If I call her then my frame will seem weak because I told her I won't call her again. Should I text her or move on or is she just acting hard to get?

Well for starters, you're texting too much.

I've been dating a girl for 2-3 weeks now, and basically my text sessions might last for 2 back and forth messages. Once on a Tuesday to say "what's up," and once on a Thursday to set up a date. You two are having entire conversations on there.

Her: Oh so you dont say hi nowadays
Me: Heey
Her: Oh goodnight (She didn't signout I knew she was playing games)
Me: haha you suck at this, its so clear
Her: I'm going to sleep now, good night (She was still online)

Boom. End of conversation right there. What's with all this "Ahaha" crap?

Me: AHAHAH
Her: Bye (Still online)
Me: I can read you like a book
Her: ahhaha just because of you I'm going to sleep now

That's just F'n weird. It's like you read a bunch of articles about ****iness and took it a little too literally. And I wouldn't even call this ****y...you just seem hurt by the fact that she just blew you off.

Actually the whole rest of the conversation seems to be you acting hurt.

That's why I hate this new breed of "electronic relationships" that have been going on for the past few years. Just call somebody. Back in the day (5 years ago), you might spend 15-20 minutes talking to your girl on the phone, hang up, and be done with it for 2-3 days.

But these days, it's text exchanges that go on for the entire day. And no one knows how to interpret sarcasm or jokes, so people end up getting hurt by minor things. Christ...just call somebody.

And to answer your question "Next or hard-to-get?" Stop playing around on the computer, get her out on a date, and find out. I couldnt even imagine myself texting back and forth with some girl for weeks at a time, and not being sure about whether or not she's interested.

 

[DonGorgon]

texting is game playing for hos they call or answer calls from guys they wana f and they go to their house to f them... you better movon she he's other dude she is focusing on

 

[Joe Stud]

bad news is: you pissed her off. good news is: you pissed her off. Bad emotions is still better than no emotions (indifference). Lay back, she will come to you.

 

[dap]

you are being too ****y and not enough funny. borderline arrogant - a big turnoff

 

[In2theGame]

Me: I know a lot that you don't think I know
Her: Who do you think you are? You don't even know me

This sounds more like a line out of I know what you did last summer. Dude just ease out and that probably creeped her out a bit.

 

[King Turi]

Holy crap.

Everything you just done, and I mean everything.. never do it again.

Look back on this as everything to not do again.

 

[Romjuan]

jesus, i didnt bother reading the whole thread. but i read your post, then i read kailex. kailex is right on. you are way too needy. after she dissed you online the first time you should have waited one to two weeks then if you were desperate attempt again. but you are way too persistant and desperate. step back and read your post and see what you would advice?

 

[Forty0ztoFreedom]

The "ahahah" stuff makes it seem like you just fvcking hate her.

 

[Ease]

Your fine.

Only problem is your taking her too seriously.

Everytime she beats you in her response, or asks a question too hard to answer, just text back nonsense. If you go to so much trouble to DHV yourself and win the argument then it looks like you care too much and you become a weener. Not answering back sometimes or completely changing the subject is gold when it comes to ashole game.

Dont answer every question. And always relate it back to you and her, and refer to the incredible sexual tension etc. Dont lose the sexual and flirty atmosphere.

Also: dont listen to the guys saying your doing it wrong. I talk like this and i know this style is used by others aswell. Listen to the reminders tho^ Although some of the lines are pretty creepy, less weird and more cool is needed.

 

[Scion]

Hmm, if this is how you interact with women then I think you should just give up. Or learn how to talk to women and never act that creepy again.

 

[Joe Stud]

Lay back, she will come to you.

 

[vato]

Ok so here is an update.

She never replied to the last text I sent her. I didn't contact her either after that. Two days later it was my birthday and she congratulated me. We talked for a while. I told her my friends had arranged a party for me at the club. She asked me if it was on saturday. I said: nope its on friday. She said: ok if it was on saturday then we might've bumped into each other. She was apparently going to a party on saturday.

I didn't text her on friday or saturday because I was too busy. Sunday morning I get a text

Her: what are you doing?

I woke up late so I replied a couple hours later.

Me: just woke up, you?
Her: Haha did you go out last night?
Me: Nope. I went skinny dipping in the lake yesterday. Did you go out?
Her: haha stop lying. yeah I went to a party.
Me: Haha I can show you a video clip of it. Did you have fun?
Her: Yeah I had fun. You know, there was this guy he was so hot. But my friend lost her purse and she had her cell phone in it.

I knew she was trying to make me jealous when she mentioned the hot guy because the first thing she did when she woke up was send me a text.

Me: that don't sound good. hope she found her purse. you should've flirted with with the hottie
Her: Haha no I just ignored him
Me: What? If you thought he was hot then why ignore him? Poor guy.
Her: Haha he tried to get eye contact with me but I ignored him
Me: I thought you were the type that knew what she wants.
Her: Yeah but it didn't feel right. Even if he'd approach me I wouldve thanked no
Me: Haha ok then I'll rip the divorce papers
Her: Haha you know I think about you all the time, so its hard to say yes to other guys

Later the same day I was at a cafeteria with a friend. I see her friend come in with some other girls but she wasn't with them. The friend thought I couldnt hear her but when she saw me I heard her say "aghh.. just then when she wasn't here.."

Today I saw her by chance and we talked. It was playful. When we seperated she sent me a text after 10 minutes saying "Hi!"

So am I still screwed? is she interested or is she just playing with me?

 

[Donnie Darko]

I don't know but why not take action and ask her out to hang out with you and find out. Regret is worse than rejection.

 

[starplayer]

I knew she was trying to make me jealous when she mentioned the hot guy because the first thing she did when she woke up was send me a text.

Me: that don't sound good. hope she found her purse. you should've flirted with with the hottie
Her: Haha no I just ignored him
Me: What? If you thought he was hot then why ignore him? Poor guy.
Her: Haha he tried to get eye contact with me but I ignored him

I don't understand why you keep redirecting the conversation back to this guy. You should've just ignored it.

You need to move away from all this texting crap and set up a meet in person. Personally, I don't mind texting girls (I know this goes against what a lot of other guys on the forum say). But I don't just text all the time for the sake of it, and only to talk about meeting up and then I call to make solid plans. I also don't text girls for weeks on end if I ain't getting laid.

At the moment she's getting what she wants from you (attention) while you're getting nothing from her. She's probably got like 5 other guy's she's texting all the time and you're just another orbiter. YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOVE. Come on man.

At the moment you're way too available to her. It's KILLING attraction. You're gonna get friend-zoned if you keep this up.

COMFORT =/= ATTRACTION

So while you think you're getting closer to her with all your ****y and funny texts, there's some other guy who comes over to her house and fvcks the sh!t out of her.

ASK HER OUT. And if it fails then next her.

Good luck.

 

[Lord Sidious]

Text leads you to nowhere in this case. Plus, ****y&funny works better in person. What she´s doing is the classic women behaviour. You´re lucky, if she´s not doing that too many guys at the same time she does it to you...!

What I´m trying to say is:

- Make a move once and for all, dude!

If she rejects or poses problems, screw her. Then you can/should move on.

 

[vato]

So I've set up a date. I'm seeing her on saturday, she's helping me find a present for my sister. My question now is, do I text her anything before we meet so I do not lose any momentum??

 

[Iceberg]

So I've set up a date. I'm seeing her on saturday, she's helping me find a present for my sister. My question now is, do I text her anything before we meet so I do not lose any momentum??

That doesn't sound like much of a date, but maybe you're young.

Well, a lot of people say you shouldn't text to confirm, but I was never a believer of that making a big difference. I really couldn't envision a girl saying, "Ew he texted me to tell me he's going to meet me at 9. Loser!"

So maybe you wanna text her the day of, saying, "Hey busy morning, but I'll be there." or "I'm on my way." or whatever. Or maybe not. Won't make a huge difference.

Other than that, no. No next. No "I'm so excited for our date!". No, "Can't wait to see you tomorrow." It's Thursday. Just disappear for a day or so, and wait til you see her on Saturday.

EDIT: I forgot to include this part. Ideally, you should be CALLING her. Texting is for the weak.