name a marriage that works

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hey guys,

so we can all list 1001 marriages that haven't worked, ie. britney and kfed, pamela and tommy, etc.

but are there any marriages (that we'd all know) that we can look at and say 'now those two show that marriage can work"

the only ones i can think of right now is George burns and his wife. its pretty clear to me that Burns really loved being married to his wife and i think they had a great marriage.

i suppose perhaps ronald and nancy regan, but to be honest they didn't seem all that happy, more co-dependent or something. their kids all ended up screwed up and stuff. so i dont know if i'd qualify that as an example of how great marriage can be.
 

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Comparing a 'normal' marriage to a 'high-publicity' marriage is like comparing apples to oranges. There are several different variables in a high publicity marriage, than there is in a 'normal' marriage. They are two different things.

A marriage that works is ie my parents. They've been together for more than two decades and everything is going great.
 

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Centaurion said:
Comparing a 'normal' marriage to a 'high-publicity' marriage is like comparing apples to oranges. There are several different variables in a high publicity marriage, than there is in a 'normal' marriage. They are two different things.
yes and no. if anything id argue a high profile marriage is harder to keep together, because both parties have money, external attention, lots of stress, etc. - the ONLY thing that will keep a high profile marriage together is if they truly love each other.

but regardless, i'm just curious how many good high profile marriages people can name.
 

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So we are to presume that, in your opinion, any marriage that is not maintained until "death does them part" is/was an unsuccessful marriage?

I'd have no quarrels with that opinion, because everyone's entitled to one. Its not my personal view, but I do want to make sure we're noting your view correctly as we go about trying to find applicable marriages.
 

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argh, you guys are driving me nuts. fine, they can be peopel who are now divorced but had a great marriage when they had it.

haha. just name ANY COUPLE that you thought had or has a great marriage. :)
 

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I guess what i was getting at in a round-about way is, what are you trying to prove/show, if anything? I don't know many people who manage money well either, but that certainly doesn't mean it cant be done (because I know from first-hand experience).

Most americans are overweight, yet its silly easy to stay not just fit, but in tremendous shape with a great plan and program.
 

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My parents are still together too (40 years this year). Granted, my dad has a lot of AFC in him, but it works for them.
 

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I just started to try to think of some names, and the only ones popping in my mind were all the break-ups. It immediately occurred to me, that the ones that get all the press are the breakups. The main reason you (we) probably can't think of any successful marriages are because successful marriages isn't news.
 

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Famous Folks:

Tim Reid and Dapne Maxwell Reid (actors)

Kirk Cameron and Chelsea Noble (actors)

Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson (R&B Recording Artists)

Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr. (R&B Recording Artists)

Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee (both veteran, and well-respected actors in our community. They parted only due to his death)

Dr. Richard and Cindy Becker (a medical doctor and his wife. Their marriage has survived his bout with cancer. They have a TV show called YOUR HEALTH that gives scientific proof of natural medicine's ability to heal diseases.)

Roy Rogers and Dale Evans (til death did THEY part, as well. On a special story on Entertainment Tonight, when Roy passed away, they said "Their marriage was unusual in Hollywood in that there was NEVER a trace of scandal ever attached to their relationship...).

And my favorite REAL LIFE FOLKS example is:

My uncle and aunt. They've been married for 30 years. They're both in their late fifties. Their marriage has survived him being FALSELY accused of federal crimes. Come to find out the prosecution was using HIM as bait to catch somebody else...(the mutherfukkers...).

He lost his job. They both had to take menial, low-paying jobs just to survive.They filed bankruptcy. They lost their house. They lost their "friends". She lost the love and support of her "family" who were secretly jealous of HER for all these years. And for the past 3 years their life has been a financial and emotional nightmare.

But NEVER was there talk of divorce. Sure they felt the strain, but they were in it TOGETHER----no question. A few months ago. All charges were dropped. He got his federal job back. They are doing well. They were just over to my home this past weekend----still in celebration mode. Their life is finally good AGAIN.

And it'll be even better when he gets his back-pay and files his inevitable, pain and suffering lawsuit against the State of Tennessee.

But again, THEY are a shining example to me of what a GOOD marriage CAN be if you have the right partner. Whenever I think that the possibility of meeting a woman who will have my back under ANY circumstance is so slim it's unrealistic-----I just give my aunt and uncle a call.

And then my hope is renewed...ONCE AGAIN.:rockon:


March on.
 

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That's a cool story. I hope they make the State bleed ca$h.

My Grandpa met Grandma when he was young, 14 I think, and she was 12. He told his friends that was the girl he was gonna marry, and he did. 6 kids and 50+ years later they died within a year of each other.

Dad and Mom, 40+ years. Dad knows how to be a man, which is nice to see as a role model.


In the celeb world, isn't Curt Russel still hooked up with Goldie what's her name?
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
Famous Folks:

Tim Reid and Dapne Maxwell Reid (actors)

Kirk Cameron and Chelsea Noble (actors)

Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson (R&B Recording Artists)

Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr. (R&B Recording Artists)

Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee (both veteran, and well-respected actors in our community. They parted only due to his death)

Dr. Richard and Cindy Becker (a medical doctor and his wife. Their marriage has survived his bout with cancer. They have a TV show called YOUR HEALTH that gives scientific proof of natural medicine's ability to heal diseases.)

Roy Rogers and Dale Evans (til death did THEY part, as well. On a special story on Entertainment Tonight, when Roy passed away, they said "Their marriage was unusual in Hollywood in that there was NEVER a trace of scandal ever attached to their relationship...).

And my favorite REAL LIFE FOLKS example is:

My uncle and aunt. They've been married for 30 years. They're both in their late fifties. Their marriage has survived him being FALSELY accused of federal crimes. Come to find out the prosecution was using HIM as bait to catch somebody else...(the mutherfukkers...).

He lost his job. They both had to take menial, low-paying jobs just to survive.They filed bankruptcy. They lost their house. They lost their "friends". She lost the love and support of her "family" who were secretly jealous of HER for all these years. And for the past 3 years their life has been a financial and emotional nightmare.

But NEVER was there talk of divorce. Sure they felt the strain, but they were in it TOGETHER----no question. A few months ago. All charges were dropped. He got his federal job back. They are doing well. They were just over to my home this past weekend----still in celebration mode. Their life is finally good AGAIN.

And it'll be even better when he gets his back-pay and files his inevitable, pain and suffering lawsuit against the State of Tennessee.

But again, THEY are a shining example to me of what a GOOD marriage CAN be if you have the right partner. Whenever I think that the possibility of meeting a woman who will have my back under ANY circumstance is so slim it's unrealistic-----I just give my aunt and uncle a call.

And then my hope is renewed...ONCE AGAIN.:rockon:


March on.
Good list Victory! I'll add Paul and Linda Mccartney, Bill and Melinda Gates (so it seems), Harry and Bess Truman and Charlie and Oona Chaplin (even though it was his fourth marriage).

I'll point out that most of our lists contain people who married in a different era with different beliefs about the roles of marriage. Now the challenge would be to list outstanding marriages within the last 15-20 years.
 

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My parents: More than 50 years, great respect for each other, I rarely heard them fight. Both have interests they share and interests they do separately. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn good.

Recently, two of my friends are going through divorces. One guy is instigating it -- and I think he's nuts, though I don't know what happens when I'm not around. He has two very young kids and I like his wife. Then again, when I'm not around she might be a beyotch.

The other, long time friend whose wife is instigating it. I think she's nuts.

You never know. I've never been married so I try not to take too strong of an opinion on it. It's like a .200 hitter in baseball trying to give hitting advice. I do know being a married AFC is the worst of all possible worlds.
 

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Every marriage that I have knowledge of has had infidelity, either by the man, the woman or both. The ones that endured, either the infidelities were overlooked for the sake of the marriage, strong religious conviction by the victim spouse or the victim spouse was unaware.

The man will usually do whatever it takes to keep the marriage going, whether he's the reason for the problems or not. The only situation I can think of where that was not the case: the woman had nothing to offer after her money was gone - she was a HB1, he was average but could do much better, so he moved up to a HB1 1/2.

The only good advice I can give a guy that's getting married is to forget about why you're marrying this woman, you're clear about your intentions, ask yourself why she's marrying you. I know a 50-year-old man that thinks a woman marries for love, which made me laugh. Some women marry for love, others for the status of wife, money, children, using the husband as a beard, can't be alone, the family likes him so why not, etc...
 

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Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward. I think they have been married for like 50 years.
 

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I think we can all agree that many marriages started thirty years ago or more (like most of my family, including my parents) remain solid. All the modern marriages I know of stay together until the woman pumps out a couple of kids (if that long), then they go to shit, almost always because the woman doesn't need the guy anymore.

I think the figure is 70% of divorces are started by women. I'd bet that most of the ones initiated by men were due to the woman forcing the issue by acting like a bitch until the man couldn't take it any more.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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name a marriage that works

af's dad is a half-crazy Vietnam vet, who was in the serious, walking-through-the-jungle-shooting-people sh!t. He has told his wife of 30+ years that if she ever filed divorce papers on him, she would never get to court, because he would shoot her first. I think she believes him, and they remain happily married to this day.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
name a marriage that works

af's dad is a half-crazy Vietnam vet, who was in the serious, walking-through-the-jungle-shooting-people sh!t. He has told his wife of 30+ years that if she ever filed divorce papers on him, she would never get to court, because he would shoot her first. I think she believes him, and they remain happily married to this day.
so kind of the archie bunker meets vietnam marriage strategy.
 

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My parents fought some of the time but seemed to have some form of love for eachother but now that joekerr mentioned it I think it was a co-dependent love not a fairytale romance by any stretch of the imagination lol.

My buddies parents though according to him have a relatively peaceful marriage where they love and respect eachother.

One of those highschool sweetheart rare success stories.

Having met both of them and talked with them at length I can tell they are both kind gentle people so I'm not surprised it has lasted so long for them.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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