GoSens said:
You know, for a guy who's been around the community for so long, you lack a lot of credibility, and you really seem to have a poor understanding of the methods, particularly MM. It seems like every other post of yours is some sort of bash towards MM. I mean it's cool that you have your own different method that works for you, but to go on and say things like MM is based on deceit and trickery? Now you're just being ignorant.
Why don't you educate me?
MM is based in part on deciet and trickery. Dressing up, aka "Peacocking" in a way to become someone you're not, pretending to be gay at times, which brings me to my next point; feigning disinterest.
Creating false value, creating false social proof, trying to lower her value thru "negs" How about false time constraints?
Is there anything genuine and real about any of the above? Sounds rather deceitful to me.
Waiting for your answer.
Dressing like a fag, pretending not to be interested in a woman when you are, hiding your intentions, creating false value, "negging" a good looking woman? That's like negging Michael Jordan on his basketball skills, or Tiger Woods on his golf game.
Go "Neg" some hot chick like Jessica Alba or Jessica Simpson or Jessica Beil. Think she'll care? Hell no. She'll laugh at you and she'll think you're a tool.
Women aren't stupid - they know why we are approaching and talking to them. It's because we want to have sex with them.
Part of MM is game playing and manipulation, much like what women do.
Only women have been doing it far longer and with more success. You're not going to beat them at their own game, unless they have LSE, which is the type of women that not only MM works best on, but was designed for.
And that's not what women want - women want Men. Men who don't resort to tricks and gimmicks and such.
Again, might work in the short term, until the booze and drugs wears off, and then even the girls with LSE will want something more.
Again, I would rather become the type of person who seduces women because of who I am than to be the type of person who uses tricks and gimmicks and routines to get women.
One way is harder and takes more effort than the other, but is far more rewarding and fulfilling.
Using someone else's routines to seduce women is about as AFC as it gets.
I have nothing against Mystery. I've met him, think he's a cool guy, but his method is a shortcut and can actually be counter-productive to your growth as a person and your progression as a DJ
It's his method I don't agree with.
Some people get that, others don't. The one's who don't will be the one's waiting for the next big thing, the next set of DVD's or ebook or whatever that is the next "magic bullet" that will make them irresistible to women.
And the cycle repeats over and over and over.
In 10 years, I've seen them all - RJ, DD, RSD, MM PU101, you name it, I've seen it.
And the method that works best is the one you create, based on your skills, your strengths, your weaknesses. The problem with all these various methods is that there is no "one size fits all"
What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. Unless you have the cash to spend on a one-on-one workshop with one of these "gurus" who will tailor his method to your strengths and weaknesses, you're wasting your time and money. Even then, who knows you better than yourself? Mystery or you?
MM works well for Mystery, and it works on certain types of girls. Usually, drunken party girls, strippers, and other LSE women.
Anyone who has ever dated a Stripper knows what a nightmare they are, how much drama they bring to the relationship, etc...
Been there, done that, never will again.
The reason why many of my posts are derogatory of MM is because MM is all the rage at the moment. If RJ was the talk of the town right now, much like he was at one time, then I would be educating people about him as well.
Mystery and all these other guys are getting rich at the expense of guys who lack social skills to get and keep women.
Speaking of, did you read Style's book? Mystery himself has little trouble getting women, but has problems being able to keep them.
Because after the facade has been stripped away, the routines, the gimmicks, the makeup, the clothes, has anything on the inside changed?
Back to Style's book, Mystery is basically an insecure guy who seduces women to get validation from women. And when he doesn't get it, he goes into deep depression.
Ask yourself this: Are you seducing women because you enjoy it, or are you seducing women for the validation that comes from it and them?
Or both?
MM will get you short term results with a certain type of women, but is it any great feat to take home some drunken party girl?
Or do you want more than that out of life?
That's not what being a "DJ" is about. Anyone here remember what it is about?
Oh, I can also write more about this subject, about how a big part of MM is about creating fake social proof, creating fake high value, trying to lower her value with "negs"
If you like, I can post directly from his own products, although it may violate some copywrites, but the bottom line is, MM is in fact based on creating an illusion of who and what you are, and how others perceive you, much like his magic tricks.
And in the long run, MM will actually prevent you from progressing as a Man, and being a Man is about being genuinely confident and not having a fragile ego like Mystery does.
Again, I'm not a "Hater" I just don't like the deceit and fakery that his method calls for at times.
Wouldn't matter if it's Mystery, or RJ, or DavidD, or anyone else - it's the method I have the problem with, not the Man.
And instead of going out 4x per week and approaching 12 women per night, I'll spend that time on personal development, in ways which will benifit me not only with women, but with other aspects of my life, personal and professional, as it already has. The promotion and hefty raise I just got sure was nice, and it's not something I would have gotten from MM, RJ, DD, RSD etc...
Besides, who the hell has time to go out 4 nights per week and sarge?
Identify and fix your inner game issues, and the rest will all fall into place.
Again, no one knows you better than you, so instead of paying some guy who dresses up like a gay pirate to teach you about you and what you should do to get women, take a deep look into your own self, identify and fix your inner game issues and like I said, the rest will take care of itself.
No need for expensive MM, NLP, SS, DYD, RSD or any of that other stuff that promises much, but delivers little.
And again, none of these "Gurus" even managed a kiss close, which anybody with basic game can get from drunken party girls at a club.
And you know if they did, VH1 would have shown it, but since they didn't, it's likely none of the "gurus" even managed that.
Now, you tell me - have you taken a MM seminar? Gamed girls in clubs? Pulled girls on the same night out of clubs? Kissed girls in clubs within 5 minutes of meeting them?
I have many times, except the part of taking a MM seminar, and can tell you, it's easy to do and not some great feat.
