My FR Journal...

[ChrizZ]

did three cold approaches today on campus.

#1

HB9 was selling stuff at a coffee shop.

Me: Hi, I'll have blablabla. So how is your day going so far?

Her: Oh, great. How is your day going?

Me: Couldn't be better now that I met you.

Her: Oh, thank you.

Me: You know... I'm envious of your boyfriend.

Her: Yeah, he's a great guy.

Me: You should let me take you out sometime.

Her: No, I don't think he would like that.

Me: Aight. Well, have a good day.

I wasn't persistent here. Although I didn't creep her out I did kinda bad, but I grew some balls after that


#2

HB 8 walking towards me on campus.

Me: Excuse for stopping you like that, but do you know where blabla is?

Her: Idk, I'm also lost. I'm looking for blabla.

Me: Oh, I believe that's back there. I'm not sure though. Let's find out... I'm ChrizZ btw.

Her: I'm HB. *shake hands*

Me: So are you new here?

Her: Yeah, I'm from LA.

Me: Oh, I bet you party a lot then. How old are you?

Her: I'm 22.

Me: What are you gonna study?

Her: English

Me: Ohh, you want to become a teacher.

Her: Yeah, how did you know.

Me: I can smell teachers a mile away. I don't like them. My parents are both teachers. Trust me, you don't want to end up like them.

Her: *Grins*

*then we get to a map of the campus*

Me: Oh, It should be somewhere here. You are pretty cute. You should let me take you out sometime.

*backs off*

Her: What? We've been talking for only 5 minutes now and you are already trying to pick me up???

Me: I don't see a problem here. You are a beautiful girl and I'm helluva handsome guy. I might never see you again.

Her: But you said you didn't like teachers.

Me: In your case I make an exception.

Her: I will prolly see you again sometime walking around campus.

Me: What if not? I mean. We got two options now. We could split ways and we might never see each other again. And my guess is we would do just fine. However we would never know what would have happened if you gave me your number and we would have met again. So what's your number?

Her: *Smiles and gives me good EC* It's blablabla.

Me: Aight. I'll give you a call sometime. Good luck finding blablabla.

I know it wasn't a great approach, but I'm just starting to do daygame


#3

Saw a hot asian chick locking her bike.

Me: *Serious face* Excuse me madame. California Bike Police. Are you trying to steal this bike?

her: What? NO! That's my bike.

Me: I don't buy that story. That's what they all say. Do you got proof?

her: no...

Me: I'm sorry. I have to arrest you.

her: ...

Me: *smile* Hey, I'm just kidding smile.gif

her: *Smile*

Me: Actually I have to say you are really cute.

her: I'm sorry I'm late for class. *Gets up and runs away*

she wasn't lying. She really was late and ran to class. Not because I creeped her out.


I know I got lots of room for improvement, but every journey has to start somewhere.


feeback pls.

 

[j0n024]

Dude I gotta say that second approach was very very good! I am actually envious that you actually did that! Good job I dont know you seem to give yourself too little credit, you did a good job and actually got the number so that was actually a "Good" job in my book. It seemed like she brought up a sh1t test and you passed it with flying colors, good job and am looking forward to more!

 

[ChrizZ]

Dude I gotta say that second approach was very very good! I am actually envious that you actually did that! Good job I dont know you seem to give yourself too little credit, you did a good job and actually got the number so that was actually a "Good" job in my book. It seemed like she brought up a sh1t test and you passed it with flying colors, good job and am looking forward to more!

thx.

I'm actually really proud of myself that I was really calm and relaxed while I did all the approaches.

I aim high and I'm willing to make a complete a$$ out of myself if that's what it takes to succeed.

 

[onthepath]

that second approach is straight out of a movie (can't remember which one though)
brilliant!

 

[ChrizZ]

that second approach is straight out of a movie (can't remember which one though)
brilliant!

yeah, I watched the movie Hitch the other day LOL

 

[smooth guy]

That movie DOES actually have some good DJ principles and Will Smith was also the perfect guy to play the PUA.

In fact they did some research and learned a lot about DJ techniques for the sake of making the movie. Not a movie that would win an Oscar, but not a bad movie either. It was quite entertaining and you can pick up a few things by watching it.

I don't think it's bad that you use lines from the movie. It can boost your confidence since you won't be looking for what to say or an opener. I never cold approach but I doubt you'll be needing the canned lines after some approaches.

 

[ElStud]

Well it's good you had the balls to do it and that you're actually going out unlike a lot of the people in this forum. I'm going to help you though... but looking at these FR's seems you're still kind of square one, but you know what I'll help you. Main problem is, you're going for rapport too early. I've never been in those situations, but it seems like opening with a question would be alright, but then you'd have to follow it up with something like C+F or negging. As of now, the convos just seem like small talk. I kind of liked number 3, since your opener was playful and interesting, but don't say "I'm just kidding", let her interpret subconsciously whether you're kidding or not. Also start kinoing man. Overall good start, you're now one of the few guys on the forum that actually goes out.

 

[dav22]

Well it's good you had the balls to do it and that you're actually going out unlike a lot of the people in this forum. I'm going to help you though... but looking at these FR's seems you're still kind of square one, but you know what I'll help you. Main problem is, you're going for rapport too early. I've never been in those situations, but it seems like opening with a question would be alright, but then you'd have to follow it up with something like C+F or negging. As of now, the convos just seem like small talk. I kind of liked number 3, since your opener was playful and interesting, but don't say "I'm just kidding", let her interpret subconsciously whether you're kidding or not. Also start kinoing man. Overall good start, you're now one of the few guys on the forum that actually goes out.

HAHAAHAAHA.

Anyway, good approaches. It's nice to have ones where things can be learnt. I think you know where you can improve so that's even better :rockon:

 

[ElStud]

HAHAAHAAHA.

Anyway, good approaches. It's nice to have ones where things can be learnt. I think you know where you can improve so that's even better :rockon:

Do Not Start.

Reported.

 

[War Against Betaism]

Well it's good you had the balls to do it and that you're actually going out unlike a lot of the people in this forum. I'm going to help you though... but looking at these FR's seems you're still kind of square one, but you know what I'll help you. Main problem is, you're going for rapport too early. I've never been in those situations, but it seems like opening with a question would be alright, but then you'd have to follow it up with something like C+F or negging. As of now, the convos just seem like small talk. I kind of liked number 3, since your opener was playful and interesting, but don't say "I'm just kidding", let her interpret subconsciously whether you're kidding or not. Also start kinoing man. Overall good start, you're now one of the few guys on the forum that actually goes out.

As much as I don't like him as a person, he is right, you are trying to get on rapport with them way too fast. You need to demonstrate your value first, then rapport.

My comments are in bolded.

did three cold approaches today on campus.

#1

HB9 was selling stuff at a coffee shop.

Me: Hi, I'll have blablabla. So how is your day going so far?

Her: Oh, great. How is your day going?

Me: Couldn't be better now that I met you.
Demonstration of lower value
Her: Oh, thank you.

Me: You know... I'm envious of your boyfriend.
Demonstration of lower value
Her: Yeah, he's a great guy.

Me: You should let me take you out sometime.
You asked her for permission if you could take her out, not good.
Her: No, I don't think he would like that.

Me: Aight. Well, have a good day.

I wasn't persistent here. Although I didn't creep her out I did kinda bad, but I grew some balls after that


#2

HB 8 walking towards me on campus.

Me: Excuse for stopping you like that, but do you know where blabla is?
Again, don't be apologetic. They should be happy that you're even talking to them.
Her: Idk, I'm also lost. I'm looking for blabla.

Me: Oh, I believe that's back there. I'm not sure though. Let's find out... I'm ChrizZ btw.
Save rapport for later
Her: I'm HB. *shake hands*

Me: So are you new here?

Her: Yeah, I'm from LA.

Me: Oh, I bet you party a lot then. How old are you?
I've found out that women don't like it when you assume things about them. One girl flat out cussed me out because I was assuming, so next time try to rephrase it so you're not assuming. Though again, you should save this rapport stuff for later
Her: I'm 22.

Me: What are you gonna study?

Her: English

Me: Ohh, you want to become a teacher.

Her: Yeah, how did you know.

Me: I can smell teachers a mile away. I don't like them. My parents are both teachers. Trust me, you don't want to end up like them.
You shouldn't have said I don't like teachers. Women want to be appreciated and supported for their goals in life, and to have someone who approached them flat out reject their profession, and even suggest they do something else is a no no. You could however do this after you've gained rapport with her and have known her better.
Her: *Grins*

*then we get to a map of the campus*

Me: Oh, It should be somewhere here. You are pretty cute. You should let me take you out sometime.
Again you shouldn't ask her permission for anything, and you shouldn't have said she was cute.
*backs off*

Her: What? We've been talking for only 5 minutes now and you are already trying to pick me up???

Me: I don't see a problem here. You are a beautiful girl and I'm helluva handsome guy. I might never see you again.
Saying you're a handsome guy might have striked her that you're a bit conceited, and the fact you said I might never see you again shows her that she has higher value than you because she is a beautiful scarce women.
Her: But you said you didn't like teachers.

Me: In your case I make an exception.

Her: I will prolly see you again sometime walking around campus.

Me: What if not? I mean. We got two options now. We could split ways and we might never see each other again. And my guess is we would do just fine. However we would never know what would have happened if you gave me your number and we would have met again. So what's your number?

Her: *Smiles and gives me good EC* It's blablabla.

Me: Aight. I'll give you a call sometime. Good luck finding blablabla.

I know it wasn't a great approach, but I'm just starting to do daygame


#3

Saw a hot asian chick locking her bike.

Me: *Serious face* Excuse me madame. California Bike Police. Are you trying to steal this bike?
eh, don't really like this approach. Having a serious face on while being sarcastic probably made her uneasy and uncomfortable.
her: What? NO! That's my bike.

Me: I don't buy that story. That's what they all say. Do you got proof?

her: no...

Me: I'm sorry. I have to arrest you.

her: ...

Me: *smile* Hey, I'm just kidding smile.gif
Wussy move here, you saw that she wasn't buying into your act, and quickly wanted to ensure that you totally didn't piss her off
her: *Smile*

Me: Actually I have to say you are really cute.

her: I'm sorry I'm late for class. *Gets up and runs away*

she wasn't lying. She really was late and ran to class. Not because I creeped her out.


I know I got lots of room for improvement, but every journey has to start somewhere.


feeback pls.

There are things that you need to work on, but you got over the most hardest step...approaching the women. That seems to be the biggest trial for most men, and they find it easier as they improve on every step. You can read and watch videos on how to play basketball your entire life, but you'll never learn unless you actually touched one and applied it on the court.

Anyways, good job, hope you found it useful.

 

[ChrizZ]

I want to thank everyone for the feedback so far.

@war against betaism:

First of all I personally prefer being natural and not trying to fly under the radar. That's why I compliment women and make my intentions as clear as possible.

Me: Couldn't be better now that I met you.
Demonstration of lower value
Her: Oh, thank you.

There were about 5 people standing around me and their jaws dropped to the floor when I started talking to her. I believe complimenting her in a situation like that is actually a DHV. How many guys who are sober and not in a club do you know that compliment women like that during the day? I bet she has never been complimented like that before in such a situation. Note that my BL was good and that I didn't come from a position of neediness.

Me: You know... I'm envious of your boyfriend.
Demonstration of lower value
Her: Yeah, he's a great guy.

this shows that I respect her and that before I take it any further I want to make sure she is single.

Me: You should let me take you out sometime.
You asked her for permission if you could take her out, not good.
Her: No, I don't think he would like that.

I agree.

Me: Excuse for stopping you like that, but do you know where blabla is?
Again, don't be apologetic. They should be happy that you're even talking to them.
Her: Idk, I'm also lost. I'm looking for blabla.

I did this not to creep her out because she was moving pretty fast.

Me: Oh, I believe that's back there. I'm not sure though. Let's find out... I'm ChrizZ btw.
Save rapport for later
Her: I'm HB. *shake hands*

this builds comfort and trust. What do you mean by saving rapport for later? For when?

I've found out that women don't like it when you assume things about them. One girl flat out cussed me out because I was assuming, so next time try to rephrase it so you're not assuming. Though again, you should save this rapport stuff for later

Weird. I always get positive reactions from girls when I do this.

Me: I can smell teachers a mile away. I don't like them. My parents are both teachers. Trust me, you don't want to end up like them.
You shouldn't have said I don't like teachers. Women want to be appreciated and supported for their goals in life, and to have someone who approached them flat out reject their profession, and even suggest they do something else is a no no. You could however do this after you've gained rapport with her and have known her better.
Her: *Grins*

I agree.

Me: Oh, It should be somewhere here. You are pretty cute. You should let me take you out sometime.
Again you shouldn't ask her permission for anything, and you shouldn't have said she was cute.
*backs off*

why shouldn't I have said that she was cute? Again, what's wrong with complimenting women? I believe the only time I fail an approach is when I don't make my intentions clear.

Saying you're a handsome guy might have striked her that you're a bit conceited, and the fact you said I might never see you again shows her that she has higher value than you because she is a beautiful scarce women.

This shows that I'm bold and confident. Well, it's the truth. I prolly would never see her again. It shows that I care for her and that she is not a random piece of a$$ to me.

Me: *Serious face* Excuse me madame. California Bike Police. Are you trying to steal this bike?
eh, don't really like this approach. Having a serious face on while being sarcastic probably made her uneasy and uncomfortable.
her: What? NO! That's my bike.

I agree.

Me: *smile* Hey, I'm just kidding smile.gif
Wussy move here, you saw that she wasn't buying into your act, and quickly wanted to ensure that you totally didn't piss her off
her: *Smile*

The thing was she seemed to be in a hurry. She wasn't pissed off because I did it playfully.

Well it's good you had the balls to do it and that you're actually going out unlike a lot of the people in this forum. I'm going to help you though... but looking at these FR's seems you're still kind of square one, but you know what I'll help you. Main problem is, you're going for rapport too early. I've never been in those situations, but it seems like opening with a question would be alright, but then you'd have to follow it up with something like C+F or negging. As of now, the convos just seem like small talk. I kind of liked number 3, since your opener was playful and interesting, but don't say "I'm just kidding", let her interpret subconsciously whether you're kidding or not. Also start kinoing man. Overall good start, you're now one of the few guys on the forum that actually goes out.

yeah, I forgot to qualify them. I did kino. The chick from the second approach high fived me actually. I just have to do more approaches and learn to calibrate. I strongly believe it's all about the experience you gain that makes you better with women. You subconsciously adapt what works and you drop what doesn't work.

More approaches coming soon...

 

[War Against Betaism]

Those are just my suggestions and I won't say anything if you don't agree with any of them, because that's what you believe in and I respect that. The only time I'll have a problem is if you constantly call me a KBJ and say I can't give good advice without proof of success *cough* but you didn't

Anyways, good luck in the future with your approaches!

 

[Snow Plowman]

The first set you didn't offer no value. The 2nd one was decent, but I don't think it was solid, but you'll never know until you start calling. Last set was just her in a rush only thing I could've think of was hook her attention after finding out she was in a rush and just go for the #.

did three cold approaches today on campus.

#1

HB9 was selling stuff at a coffee shop.

Me: Hi, I'll have blablabla. So how is your day going so far?

Her: Oh, great. How is your day going?

Me: Couldn't be better now that I met you.

Her: Oh, thank you.

Boring talk and basically sounds like every other guy who's probably tried to talk to her. You weren't offering any value and you complimented like every other guy.

Me: You know... I'm envious of your boyfriend.

It's never good to bring up the boyfriend even if you bluntly know she has one. The only way I can see this happening is if you have a big thing about "Not hitting on chicks with BFs" and so your screening her

Her: Yeah, he's a great guy.

Me: You should let me take you out sometime.

Her: No, I don't think he would like that.

Me: Aight. Well, have a good day.

It's safe to say you already knew you messed this one up right after the BF part. I assume you didn't have much to say or you were running out of time so you quickly tried to close, which is good because its better to try and close than never.

#2

HB 8 walking towards me on campus.

Me: Excuse for stopping you like that, but do you know where blabla is?

Her: Idk, I'm also lost. I'm looking for blabla.

Me: Oh, I believe that's back there. I'm not sure though. Let's find out... I'm ChrizZ btw.

Nice

Her: I'm HB. *shake hands*

Me: So are you new here?

Her: Yeah, I'm from LA.

Me: Oh, I bet you party a lot then. How old are you?

Her: I'm 22.

Me: What are you gonna study?

Her: English

Me: Ohh, you want to become a teacher.

Her: Yeah, how did you know.

Me: I can smell teachers a mile away. I don't like them. My parents are both teachers. Trust me, you don't want to end up like them.

Her: *Grins*

*then we get to a map of the campus*

Notice how this conversation is compared to the first approach, you were adding emotions into this conversation, especially because you kind of cold read her as being a teacher and saying you hate teachers.

Me: Oh, It should be somewhere here. You are pretty cute. You should let me take you out sometime.

*backs off*

Her: What? We've been talking for only 5 minutes now and you are already trying to pick me up???

Me: I don't see a problem here. You are a beautiful girl and I'm helluva handsome guy. I might never see you again.

Clearly a "Congruence Test" on her part which you kind of logically answered but not fully. (Never answer these tests logically)

Her: But you said you didn't like teachers.

Me: In your case I make an exception.

Her: I will prolly see you again sometime walking around campus.

Me: What if not? I mean. We got two options now. We could split ways and we might never see each other again. And my guess is we would do just fine. However we would never know what would have happened if you gave me your number and we would have met again. So what's your number?

I think this bit pulled it back together, because it was sort of a qualifier of you saying it was an exception, making it seem to her that there was something about her that made you like her despite you disliking teachers. Then using unexplained stuff about options and what can and can't happen if you doing exchange #s. This was a nice way of pulling this back.

Her: *Smiles and gives me good EC* It's blablabla.

Me: Aight. I'll give you a call sometime. Good luck finding blablabla.

I know it wasn't a great approach, but I'm just starting to do daygame

Try not to leave the girl after getting a #, it makes you seem like you just came in to get the # instead of getting the # because of time constraints in the particular situation.

 

[ChrizZ]

Alright fellas. I did 12 approaches today. Most of the approaches in the beginning were crash and burn because I tried out all kinds of stuff. However right now I got a feeling that I could become really good at this stuff. I'm slowly getting balls of steel. Here are 4 approaches that are worth mentioning. All the approaches were cold approaches on a college campus.

#1: #C

Usually I don't go for asian chicks, but that chick had the hottest body I have ever seen and a pretty face, too. She was walking my way and texting on her cell phone.

Me: Hey, you don't have to text me... you can talk to me in person.

HB9: *Rofl*

Me: Do you know where blablabla is?

HB9: Oh, I don't know. I'm sorry. It's my first year here.

Me: Really? Where are you from?

...I took it from there and I got all sorts of IOIS you could imagine. I prolly could have made out with her on the spot. She eventually asked for my number. She had really high interest. Good approach all in all.

#2: My ballsiest approach

I saw a hot chick laying on the grass all by herself, reading a book.

Me: Hi, how are you?

her: Good

Me: I noticed you from back there and I gotta say you are really cute so I decided to come up here and to talk to you.

her: *smiling*

Me: So when do you want to hook up?

her: Hook up? To do what?

Me: To have HOT, STEAMY and PASSIONATE SEX!!! (In a serious dominant tone)

her: Ohh, I'm not down to that, sorry. I don't just hook up with random guys. You are a cute guy though. You should find plenty of girls here.

Me: I understand. I don't want to put you on the spot here. I'll write down my number for you.

...after that I ejected.

#3: The group approach

I saw four girls sitting there and they were trying to get people to sign up for something.

Me: Oh, I see it's 4 for 1 today!

them: ???

Me: Four lovely ladies (pointing at them) for one great guy (pointing at me)

them: :crackup:

... I can't really remember what I said after that, but I pretty much had the whole group eating out of my palm after a few minutes of conversation.

#4: My favorite one

a girl was trying to get people to sign up for something.

HB8: Hey, do you wanna sign up for blablaba

Me: Okay, sure...

HB8: Are you an American citizen?

Me: No.

HB8:

Me: I'm a good problem solver though. The only way I could become an American citizen is to marry an American woman.

HB8: I see.

Me: So... are you still single?

HB8: *She almost literally rolled on the floor laughing*

Me: Yeah, you are so the kind of woman I want to marry. (Pull)

HB8: Oh thank you. You are so sweet.

Me: Yeah, and then get divorced a week later and get half of your money.

HB8: :crackup: . I don't think I'm ready to marry yet.

Me: Oh, I'm kinda disappointed now. See, I already bought this wedding ring and I was gonna go like this *kneeling and pretending to ask her to marry me*

HB8: :crackup: . I don't think I want to go all the way to Germany to marry you. I think it's too far.

Me: Well, we could go to Vegas and go to one of those little white wedding chapels. I already hired a little trained monkey that would hand us our wedding rings.

HB8: *Laughing again* ( I think her belly seriously hurt after so much laughing)

*she then kinda ignored me because she asked other people to sign up*

Me: You are already ignoring me? See, this marriage is going down the drain already. There is only one thing we could do now.

HB8: What?

Me: My last attempt to save this relationship. You give me your number and I take you out sometime!

HB8: No, I'm sorry. You are a really fun guy, but I have to work now...

Me: Okay, I will leave now and look for a wedding consultant.

HB8: *laughs* Have a good day.

 

[wolf116]

LMAO that was gold. I hope you're still working out.

 

[ChrizZ]

LMAO that was gold. I hope you're still working out.

does banging chicks count as a workout?

I'm actually going to the gym right now. In case I see some hotties there you guys will soon have more approaches to read.

 

[wolf116]

does banging chicks count as a workout?

I'm actually going to the gym right now. In case I see some hotties there you guys will soon have more approaches to read.

It counts for cardio and abs. But I'd sagest doing it in the morning on an empty stomach for maximum results Hahaha. Thats what I tell anyone when they ask me how I got a sixpack anyway.

 

[ChrizZ]

bump

 

[ChrizZ]

that's really good man. out of curiosity, what do you look like? what would you rate yourself 1-10? these girls are reacting really well to you

I have to admit that I'm good looking. Tall (6ft3), dark, big and muscular and I got a nice face. I'm growing a beard right now, so it's only a matter of time until I look like a complete bada$$. I also got a unique fashion style. I pretty much dress like Hitch. Idk what I would rate myself, but I usually score above 9 on hotornot if that means anything. Looks help, but I also get rejected alot. Talking to women is a skill that you can learn and improve and I'm just starting out.

 

[ChrizZ]

anymore feedback?