OP:
I want to first and foremost give you sincere props for fighting the good fight; it sucks now but you are light years ahead of 95% of the people on this forum. In a short time you will be doing laps in *****. You have the 2 things that it requires to be successfully with women; thick skin and no fear of rejection. With those 2 things you will go very very far. A lot of guys here can learn from your persistence. I wish we could sticky all approach forums like this. This is where the real **** is right here.
Now with that said, please don’t think I’m making fun of you or picking on you because I’m not but this has to be said, someone has to steer you in the right direction.
Look.. you don’t have any game. Lol. That’s fine. That’s what we are here for. You bring the will, we will show you the way.
I mean, first, you use the same tired opener every time. Imagine you are generic hot hb 8. Do you not think she knows the second you are sitting in line that you come up to her and ask her where the X is she doesn’t know you are spiting game? Not only that, she can imply already you aren’t very good at it, and more times than not, at this very moment has decided she isn’t’ gonna give you any play. At this point, what you have basically done is that you have because of your lack of game, you have painted yourself into a corner that, the only way she is going to give you any play is if she is really desperate or she thinks you are hot. I don’t know how you look but I imagine you aren’t Jude Law or anything.
I mean.. you aren’t being interesting. Cold approaching is all about having an angle. Who the **** cares about Jeremy lin lol? **** im’ a guy and I don’t give 2 ****s about jermey lin sorry ass mother****er lol.
The best opener of my life was by complete accident. I had just gotten into one of the.. ****.. the biggest knock down/ drag out fight my wife and I have had.. we weren’t married t the time.. but she pissed me the **** off and I needed to go blow some steam so I went to the bar and I started drinking and after a few drinks I just turned to the woman next to me and I said look let me get your opinion on some **** lol. and I just started talking and then her friend started listening and **** not 3-4 minutes later we had a ****ing debate going at the bar table. I didn’t know any of them. I wasn’t even trying to talk to them I was just drunk lol. it took like 20 minutes for me to realize.. damn.. these girls like me lol. at least I knew 2 of the 4 did and they were pretty cute. And funny enough the more I started talking about her (my GF/wife) , **** I even pulled out pictures of her and my son, I wasn’t trying to pull any of them and they ate the **** up . I mean all the way up. “oh you are so sweet” “I would kill to have a man like you”. One of them gave me her number, without even asking, in case I needed to talk lol. I could have ****ed her brains out lol.
I’ve always been pretty good with openers but that tom e, once I sobered up really opened my eyes on how an opener is supposed to work.
Think if you are in a boxing match with someone. She’s ready she’s fought all these different dudes before she “(think she knows what is coming). And she already has her defenses up. But she doesn’t know you are a southpaw and you come from a different angle, you pop her in the jaw and now she doesn’t know what to do, she’s off guard.
A plate I spun, actually approached me one day in Barnes and Nobel and sat down and said “I just got done reading the book you are reading (the god delusion) what do you think about it?”. Bam. Caught me off guard. Within 5 minutes we were drinking lattes together and playing footsie.
A few days ago I had a girl come up to me after a meeting and ask me where I got my (white with blue emblem) polo shirt from lol. yeah I saw that coming a mile away. Not that it would have mattered but still. That’s a ****ty opener.
Your man issue, at least the issue I want you to work on now, is your opener. You can do 500 approaches and it won’t matter if you are using bland generic openers. Come up with something I can’t tell you what to do. the bolder the better. Bold is a southpaw hit. You see a girl reading a book that you have read (this is where it pays to actually pick up **** not game related) you can comment on it. I saw a girl reading slaughterhouse 5 one day and I told her I thought the book was overrated and she was reading it just to look smart. Def. caught her attention. Got her number too after a good debate.
And ****, even if you can’t be creative, be direct and honest. And you hdad this right for a minute but you aren’t being direct enough. Look the girl in the eye and tell her that you think she is georgous. Make her blush. A woman can’t turn you down if you can make her blush. But then after you go with the bold, you back down and start talking about other **** **** that. Keep the pressure on. You could have closed a couple of girls on that other page had you kept the pressure on.
This is how you do it..
You: hey you are gorgeous
Her: thank you
You: if you don’t mind me asking what’s your name so I don’t call you hot girl all night long
Her: I’m Jane
You: hi jane I’m X nice to meet you. As soon as I saw you I couldn’t stop looking at you. I want to take you out, give me your number.
Her: I can’t do that
You: yes you can you just pull out a piece of paper and write it down, be sure do give me your area code as well
Her: I mean I can’t I just.. I don’t know you
You: Well captain obvious lol that’s why we go out. if you knew me there would be no need to go out on a date now would it lol? so give me the number and I will call you later to set something up.
Her: I can’t.. I
You: do you think I’m cute?
Her: lol What?
You : Did I stutter? Do you think I’m cute?
Her:… you’re cute
You: Why thank you. Do I stink or something lol? (don’t stink lol.. in fact a good kino moment here is if you have on some cologne and tell her to smell your cologne, get up close to your neck or your wrist)
Her: lol no
You: are you allergic to having fun and trying new exciting things?
Her:.. no
You: well Jane I regret to inform you that you have no excuse to not give me your number. Write it down, I’ll call you later. ‘
(9 out of 10 times she’s done.. if not you are going to get a real legit reason why.. but for the sake of demonstration let’s say she has a legit reason)
Her: I have a boyfriend.
You: (this is how I handle the situation).. Honestly I don’t care lol. I take what I want and right now all I want to do is to take you to and have a good time, nothing more.
Her: WELL THAT’S wrong I can’t cheat on my BF
You: who said anything about cheating, I don’t’ know you that well I just said I want to take you out some time, can you not have male friends? If you have a guy who is that jealous who won’t let you have male friends you need to seriously reevaluate your relationship don’t you think?
(soft sell) . look you don’t know me I am an extremely busy person.. I have some free time tomorrow night, I want to go out and get out the house maybe go get some ice cream (I have a thing for ice cream so a lot of my dates revolve around it), maybe tell some jokes. Are you really objecting to free ice cream lol? Seriously? Free ice cream from a cute guy who doesn’t stink lol! and you know what, I’ll give you a special offer for a limited time only… if you give me your number here in the next 2 minutes I will give you one additional scoop of ice cream, at no additional cost for you.. you know what **** it i will throw in a cone too. now you can't say no to the cone... (she’ll laugh)…
She will be done at this point. not only will she be done, you've actually not only got the number, you've intrigued her. you're interesting. she's gonna WANT to see what you are about. she doesn't necessarily LIKE you yet, but she's interested to see what you are about.
Lol I feel like Vin Diesel in Boiler room lol when he gets on the phone with the client. Anyway the above is how it’s done. When I say I can talk to anyone anytime, I can talk to anyone any time and I can think extremely fast on my feet.
However keep in mind.. the above.. took YEARS to hone. Not days, not weeks, not months. Not a year. From the time I was 20 until the time I was 25 and met my now wife. Talking to 5-10 girls a week. Collecting 100 rejections, etc. that’s how you get to the above.
A quick note I want to point out from the above. Just about every girl you meet is gonna tell you no at least once. You have to learn how to tactfully move past it. My ****ing WIFE told me no, it was a very soft no but still. “I don’t know you like that, what if you are a stalker lol” and I told her “well considering I’m sitting here talking to you right now face to face I’ the ****test stalker alive wouldn’t you think”. She thought that was funny and told me she has seen me around… asked me what I had in mind and I told her well since you want to protect against my stalker tendencies we can do something public, let’s go to the beach. Game on.
Anyway that’s your homework project. Make 20 approaches, but make them as bold / unique as possible. Then come back and let us know how it worked and we can go from there.