MMF threesome

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MMF threesomes happen. A lot of guys aren't even hearing about a woman's past MMF threesomes if she's had them. Some women who have had MMF threesomes in the past aren't revealing that information.

Exploring a woman's sexual past often leads to information most men don't want to know.

A woman's knowledge of a man's sexual history often doesn't lead to good outcomes either. Rollo Tomassi even created a iron rule around it.

Iron Rule of Tomassi # 2

NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonestly reveal the number of women you’ve slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover.
Agree you should never divulge your sexual past nor ask about hers for that matter.

However, MOST normal, healthy women have not been in a threesome. The number is even less of women who have been in a MMF threesome. The couple of times in my life I was propositioned for being the second "M" in one of these (and promptly turned it down both times), the two women were very mentally damaged. One had been raped as a little girl by her uncle and gotten pregnant from it. Now granted, I am not suggesting every woman who wants a MMF threesome has had something that bad happen to them. But I am suggesting that they aren't mentally stable and you shouldn't want anything with them more than for her to be a plate - so you shouldn't care at all in the first place.
 

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But I am suggesting that they aren't mentally stable and you shouldn't want anything with them more than for her to be a plate - so you shouldn't care at all in the first place.
So you should agree it’s best to find out this info and plate them asap rather than stick your head in the sand and become another statistic in 5-10 years once you’re already locked in with kids. There are definitely men on this forum that married and bred a woman they later found out had trains etc ran on her. Imagine how hard that is to take.

FYI I have never asked a girl her body count and really don’t care to.
 

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Not to split hairs here but MMF and MFM are more than slightly different. Make sure you enter your search terms carefully
 

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I can handle any facts (that's not one of them), but I don't want to wife/breed a woman who has had a gangbang/train.

Do you really think all top-tier women (in looks) have been gangbanged? All it takes is a good father figure, and 1-2 LTR's for them to be off the streets long enough for me to find them. I've spoken to girls who find group sex disgusting, it's not normal, why are we normalising it?
The two problems you'll run into are:

1. It's hard to find a girl who likes sex but doesn't have a crazy sexual history. You'll generally need to pick one or the other. Do you want a wife who has sex with you once a week and makes you wait months for the first time?

2. Often a woman who tries to put on a good girl act is low interest or manipulating you. Meanwhile the girls who come off as slutty are just high interest so of course they come off as sexual and want you to see them that way.

My man. She was already disqualified from a relationship because she’s a 7-8/10. I’m leaning more towards 7.5. But I knew then she wasn’t LTR as I’m holding out for a gorgeous girl, no matter how long it takes. The mmf just compounded it. It’s gross.
The only way you're going to find a gorgeous girl without a sordid sexual past is if she's a complete prude who hates sex. I know a girl who has never done anything crazy but she has also said that she thinks (a man's) money is more important than sex in a relationship.
 

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So you should agree it’s best to find out this info and plate them asap rather than stick your head in the sand and become another statistic in 5-10 years once you’re already locked in with kids. There are definitely men on this forum that married and bred a woman they later found out had trains etc ran on her. Imagine how hard that is to take.

FYI I have never asked a girl her body count and really don’t care to.
I agree you need to find this kind of thing out IF you are thinking of an LTR with a woman. And even then, it needs to be done so discreetly. I would never point blank as a girl something like this. Typically, this kind of information makes itself known the longer you are dating someone without you even doing that much investigative work - especially if the woman is even tangentially connected to your social circle. Asking for it makes you look very insecure. Being discreet is key.
 

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1. It's hard to find a girl who likes sex but doesn't have a crazy sexual history.
The only way you're going to find a gorgeous girl without a sordid sexual past is if she's a complete prude who hates sex.
That's the kind of nonsense that gets repeated ad nauseam on this forum because people saying it can't imagine a woman who is sexual and at the same time has enough self esteem/brains to not get together with random guys. You mean to tell me that a clinically sane woman gets more sexual satisfaction from a string of fvck buddies than she gets using a vibrator? :rolleyes: C'mon man.
 

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Why aren’t most of you talking about the moral bent of the men that would bang a chick with another guy?

Maybe I’m old fashioned but MMF’s and MFM’s are homoerotic acts.

Why, in Gods name would any self-respecting MAN, want to share a woman? Why would I want to be in the same room with another man’s erect penis? Much less put mine where his has been?

/barf
 

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The two problems you'll run into are:

1. It's hard to find a girl who likes sex but doesn't have a crazy sexual history. You'll generally need to pick one or the other. Do you want a wife who has sex with you once a week and makes you wait months for the first time?

2. Often a woman who tries to put on a good girl act is low interest or manipulating you. Meanwhile the girls who come off as slutty are just high interest so of course they come off as sexual and want you to see them that way.



The only way you're going to find a gorgeous girl without a sordid sexual past is if she's a complete prude who hates sex. I know a girl who has never done anything crazy but she has also said that she thinks (a man's) money is more important than sex in a relationship.
OP is delusional thinking these gorgeous women aren't going to have a sexual history that disqualifies them in his mind. IMO, the only way you'll find one is if they straight up lie to you about it and deny it.
 

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That's the kind of nonsense that gets repeated ad nauseam on this forum because people saying it can't imagine a woman who is sexual and at the same time has enough self esteem/brains to not get together with random guys. You mean to tell me that a clinically sane woman gets more sexual satisfaction from a string of fvck buddies than she gets using a vibrator? :rolleyes: C'mon man.
Doesn't need to be with random guys...I know quite a few that have done stuff with their best friend and her boyfriend(s). In fact this is a much more likely scenario.
 

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That's the kind of nonsense that gets repeated ad nauseam on this forum because people saying it can't imagine a woman who is sexual and at the same time has enough self esteem/brains to not get together with random guys. You mean to tell me that a clinically sane woman gets more sexual satisfaction from a string of fvck buddies than she gets using a vibrator? :rolleyes: C'mon man.
It's not impossible but it's rare and difficult. I'm not recommending any man try to go unicorn hunting rather than picking a realistic option.

It's like if a woman wants a rich man with a lot of free time. 99.9% of the time you have to choose one. 0.1% of the time you get Bruce Wayne.

You mean to tell me that a clinically sane woman gets more sexual satisfaction from a string of fvck buddies than she gets using a vibrator? :rolleyes: C'mon man.
Would you want a woman who'd rather masturbate than sleep with a man? That's the equivalent to guys who jerk off to porn instead of approaching.

As a less extreme example/anecdote In my approaches I've met many women who are not party girls that go out on the weekends to hook up with guys and get wasted. However most of those girls said all they do is work and sleep. (Sometimes study and sleep).

Usually those girls don't come off as fun, interesting or exciting; but at least they're loyal and responsible.
 
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The SoSuave confirmation bias is strong today

While I don't expect women to divulge such an act I do think very few people in general have threesomes. The handful of guys I know in real life at or above 100 notches haven't for the most part. I know one guy that did MFM right after highschool and he felt ashamed by it and the girl was nothing more than a hole on both ends. He was ridiculed for it and many homoerotic jokes were made, no one let him live it down. I Imagine if word got out it would be worse for the woman, but really....

This is not common guys, there are promiscuous girls who might do it, but I'd gather most men would feel equally opposed staring into the eyes of another man while he goes to pound town. There are beautiful girls who have not had two dongs in them at the same time. the fact that anyone is taking this thread seriously is mind blowing. Yeah if a girl did this I would jump ship, but the likely hood the girl you are seeing did do this is slim. In Murk's case I think you just got a unlucky and now you are fixated on this thing, understandably but

Do you really think a girl you just met, just slept with and hardly know expects to be asked randomly by the guy

"hey have you had two d***'s in you at the same time"?

I'm not saying your standard is wrong and I wouldn't bother with the town tandem bike (lol), but this seems like such a rare thing and losing your mind over it doesn't seem worth it.
 

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The SoSuave confirmation bias is strong today

While I don't expect women to divulge such an act I do think very few people in general have threesomes. The handful of guys I know in real life at or above 100 notches haven't for the most part. I know one guy that did MFM right after highschool and he felt ashamed by it and the girl was nothing more than a hole on both ends. He was ridiculed for it and many homoerotic jokes were made, no one let him live it down. I Imagine if word got out it would be worse for the woman, but really....

This is not common guys, there are promiscuous girls who might do it, but I'd gather most men would feel equally opposed staring into the eyes of another man while he goes to pound town. There are beautiful girls who have not had two dongs in them at the same time. the fact that anyone is taking this thread seriously is mind blowing. Yeah if a girl did this I would jump ship, but the likely hood the girl you are seeing did do this is slim. In Murk's case I think you just got a unlucky and now you are fixated on this thing, understandably but

Do you really think a girl you just met, just slept with and hardly know expects to be asked randomly by the guy

"hey have you had two d***'s in you at the same time"?

I'm not saying your standard is wrong and I wouldn't bother with the town tandem bike (lol), but this seems like such a rare thing and losing your mind over it doesn't seem worth it.
I agree that it seems pretty unlikely to find a woman who has actually done it. less unlikely to find a woman who would want to do it or fantasize about it.

But part of the confirmation bias is probably that the selection of women you'd meet during night life who are going to hop into bed with you quickly are more likely to do this kind of thing.

Girls who like threesomes are less than 50% in general. Most girls would tell you they'd rather be with one person and not share.
 

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Attractive Eastern European girls are usually always sexually promiscuous and quite often str8 up bimbos that guys can easily convince to run a train or be in a 3some with.
 

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Attractive Eastern European girls are usually always sexually promiscuous and quite often str8 up bimbos that guys can easily convince to run a train or be in a 3some with.
The most attractive eastern European girls I've met have had obvious plastic surgery. Spending $10,000+ to make herself more sexually attractive is probably the biggest possible slut flag.

However I've never had any luck with eastern European girls. Maybe it's because I'm black, maybe it's because I'm broke.
 

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MMF threesomes happen. A lot of guys aren't even hearing about a woman's past MMF threesomes if she's had them. Some women who have had MMF threesomes in the past aren't revealing that information.

Exploring a woman's sexual past often leads to information most men don't want to know.

A woman's knowledge of a man's sexual history often doesn't lead to good outcomes either. Rollo Tomassi even created a iron rule around it.

Iron Rule of Tomassi # 2

NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonestly reveal the number of women you’ve slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover.
Be as may, I can't fμck with it.
 

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Let’s not even mention that in the “lifestyle community“ MMF and MFM are two completely different things.

MMF means that the men are also having sex with each other. I feel the same way about either act as I’ve posted here previously.
 

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Is it a good idea to ask this question in the first few weeks? Am I being over the top?
Edit: I dont think "Less than 5 notch count" is something you consider "at this point", I think it should always be the standard for ltr/wife and all the other girls are recreational use only.

Is it a good idea to ask this question in the first few weeks? Yes

Am I being over the top? No

It seems to me that most (not all) of the guys that would disagree just dont wanna see you happy bro. Yeah, maybe some of them genuinely dont care about their Wife/Ltr´s sexual past but the rest of them? To me it seems like a they are cool with you being succesfull as long as you are not more succesfull than them kind of thing. You tell me if Im completely off the mark on this one or maybe Im on to something. I´ll be rooting for you regardless.
 
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This is complete bullshyt. Not even close to being true. Why dont you ask ppl that have actually been around this stuff instead of flat out lying?
Do you know how many people that I know who have trained girls but dont fck other dudes. Gtfo here with this
I think he's saying that the term MMF implies the men are bisexual, and the term for two bros double teaming a lovely lady is MFM.

I don't think there's really a need to think about which term is for when the dudes are fvcking each other because of how incredibly rare that would be.
 
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