MMF threesome

[Murk]

Edit: I dont think "Less than 5 notch count" is something you consider "at this point", I think it should always be the standard for ltr/wife and all the other girls are recreational use only.

Is it a good idea to ask this question in the first few weeks? Yes

Am I being over the top? No

It seems to me that most (not all) of the guys that would disagree just dont wanna see you happy bro. Yeah, maybe some of them genuinely dont care about their Wife/Ltr´s sexual past but the rest of them? To me it seems like a they are cool with you being succesfull as long as you are not more succesfull than them kind of thing. You tell me if Im completely off the mark on this one or maybe Im on to something. I´ll be rooting for you regardless.

I've had some great advice on here over the years, I filter out the BS, I can take it as good as I give it so no worries it's all fun (mostly). I'm just surprised the whole forum told me to dump my ex gf last summer, then when I finally do it people complain, when I up my standards, people complain. I'm doing what's right for me (as always).

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Sorry sparky. It’s known:

type “mmf vs mfm” into the search engine of your choice.

FFM, MMF, MFM, FMF…What’s The Difference in Swinging?

There tend to be quite a number of acronyms tossed around in the swinging lifestyle…ones that often confuse both novices and experienced swingers...

www.swingers.org

You can paint it any way you want bubba, but the terminology is there and established. Just pointing it out. Facts is facts.

I am absolutely not judging you for enjoying watching other men’s penises, or putting your’s in another man’s bodily fluids. That’s all you man, and if it makes you happy, so be it.

Have a great day!

This is complete bullshyt. Not even close to being true. Why dont you ask ppl that have actually been around this stuff instead of flat out lying?
Do you know how many people that I know who have trained girls but dont fck other dudes. Gtfo here with this

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Edit: I dont think "Less than 5 notch count" is something you consider "at this point", I think it should always be the standard for ltr/wife and all the other girls are recreational use only.

Is it a good idea to ask this question in the first few weeks? Yes

Am I being over the top? No

It seems to me that most (not all) of the guys that would disagree just dont wanna see you happy bro. Yeah, maybe some of them genuinely dont care about their Wife/Ltr´s sexual past but the rest of them? To me it seems like a they are cool with you being succesfull as long as you are not more succesfull than them kind of thing. You tell me if Im completely off the mark on this one or maybe Im on to something. I´ll be rooting for you regardless.

Plenty of women will simply lie

 

[The Duke]

I wouldn't recommend girls with more than 5-7 partners by 45. At a min 2-3 of her partners should have been LTR's.

During a conversation have her piece together a timeline of partners and some details. If the details are sketchy, she is withholding information.

If she has been fuhked by two dudes at once she is a damn wh0re. I can't respect that. She can satisfy her curiosity by simply fuhking one guy and using a dildo for wherever else she wants to stick it.

 

[corsica]

Better not to ask so you don’t get upset. I gave up thinking a “pure” girl exists.

I’ve done a few MMF but I’m not too fond. Your friend is in the opposite side because you don’t want to sword-fight but it takes the fun because men are not visually pleasing and he’s just there. Then you have to keep the synchrony since it’s usually her mouth and vag and you guys plowing her.

 

[devilkingx2]

Lol I know right, you might as well just suck his d1ck for funzies

Sucking his **** is gay, you have to make him suck your **** to assert dominance. That's how Alpha Males do it

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Most girls haven’t had MMF threesomes OP. None of the girls I’ve dated had. You are just attracting bottom barrel, low quality women, for some reason. You should examine this.

A MMF threesome is degrading to most women; and not in a hot way. It’s a train.

Most healthy women are wired to sleep with one man at a time - their most high value option. Sex is mental. Most women cannot get wet at the thought of two men penetrating them as it infers they are sleeping with low quality men (the tribe leader would not be sharing his women with other men).
It’s the equivalent to males with being pegged. Most men do not get turned on at the thought of being pegged by a girl, no matter how hot she is. It repulses men, the same way being gang banged by low quality men repulses healthy women. Primally speaking, alphas dominate other men to get access to a woman. Alphas do not share or compromise to have second rate sexual experiences, why would they - they can easily replace her and get the experience they want.


It is also homoerotic in my opinion, as you are bringing your erection in close proximity to another erection, and getting off at your women moaning for another man. You are implying that you, alone, cannot satisfy the woman. You feel comfortable and sexually excited around another naked, sexually aroused man, instead of being repulsed like a straight man would be

 

[Gamisch]

Well, it seems sooner or later you (or men in similar situations) will have to choose between bad choices. If you wanna reproduce after 30 something while NOT having a partner, you'll have to let go of some standards.

I take in account you expressed your desire to be a father. If it was soley a LTR you were after, i would've told you to simply enjoy what comes your way. In that case , for all you know you could date a stripper, knowing you'll dump her within a few months. No need to super duper screen when you realistically know the shelf life of a LTR isn't more than 2 years.

But if you wanna start a family, you won't easily find young ,pretty woman ready to become a mother and with a low notch count (lower than 5?) . Thats what i mean when i say you'll have to give something to get something.

I also wonder if you would have different results when you actually advertise your desire for a serious LTR. We all know OLD by default is a frustrating thing, especially when you are " in a hurry". Perhaps you should experiment with the higher end dating services..i dont know. Just live life, game women both on and offline and sooner or later you WILL come across one that you'll find fitting.

Last resort is actively turning religious and find one in the Mosk or Church.

Attractive Eastern European girls are usually always sexually promiscuous and quite often str8 up bimbos that guys can easily convince to run a train or be in a 3some with.

Underrated post. I am surprised most men are SO disgusted by threesomes. We all know how easy it is to convince a woman to push thing a little further, lets not even talk about what happens onve there's drugs and alcohol involved.

Your " dream girl" probably did much more nasty shyte than you can handle. Most men are conservative AF, maybe outside sex will be the freakiest thing they'll ever do. Meanwhile these women are chasing kinks that would make you shiver.

Once a woman is in lust with a man she'll go really far to impress him and every kind of decency goes out the window. Yall should know this. Matter of fact; it supposed to be US DJ,s that mess these women up for the beta men of the world.

 

[Gamisch]

Let’s not even mention that in the “lifestyle community“ MMF and MFM are two completely different things.

MMF means that the men are also having sex with each other. I feel the same way about either act as I’ve posted here previously.

The level of gheyness depends upon some factors. For example, two long time friends that grew up together might have less problems with a threesome. Or even two relatives like brothers or cousins might have a threesome with a woman without any problem.

I think situation, age ect matters a lot when you think about it. Some college brats running a train on Stacey sounds more "innocent" and almost logical to me. Funny story; few years ago a old friend of mine was after this girl. She friendzoned him hard. One day i visited him and met her. She was all over me at once, even her bf couldn't do anything about it. I stayed over ,next day she came back to chill with us and straight up said she wanted to feck the both of us. He was in love with her, so he " declined " the offer with a lotta bitching. This was his one and only opportunity to sleep with her..

If you ever played sport you might've showered with other dudes. Or went to a naked beach, or a Turkisch sauna where you are prohibited to wear clothes. I know a shower ect and actual sex is different, but if I would have such a threesome I wouldn't be looking at the other dude but rather chase my own pleasure. Its a frenzy anyway.

I remember when i was younger a "cool teacher" asked a few guys during a school trip if we would like to become a pornstar . I'll never forget one dude's answer; he said " no because then people would see my azz hole and thats ghey." Before his answers i never even thought about that way. He made being a pornstar ( super alpha thing to do right)) a ghey thing in one answer .

I geuss everyone has his own limits. But multiple D's is simply "more degrading " for a woman. And as we all know some women love to be degraded as much as possible..

 

[SW15]

Let’s not even mention that in the “lifestyle community“ MMF and MFM are two completely different things.

MMF means that the men are also having sex with each other.

I think the topic being discussed as actually more MFM, inferring a 2 guy, 1 girl threesome setting with no sex between the 2 men.

However, MOST normal, healthy women have not been in a threesome. The number is even less of women who have been in a MMF threesome. The couple of times in my life I was propositioned for being the second "M" in one of these (and promptly turned it down both times), the two women were very mentally damaged. One had been raped as a little girl by her uncle and gotten pregnant from it. Now granted, I am not suggesting every woman who wants a MMF threesome has had something that bad happen to them. But I am suggesting that they aren't mentally stable and you shouldn't want anything with them more than for her to be a plate - so you shouldn't care at all in the first place.

It is my sense that the most common threesome is the 2 guy, 1 woman threesome with no sex between the two men.

The majority of women are not interested in any sort of threesome.

 

[corrector]

At this point I will need a virgin or under 5 count smh.

Exactly.

 

[Murk]

Most girls haven’t had MMF threesomes OP. None of the girls I’ve dated had. You are just attracting bottom barrel, low quality women, for some reason. You should examine this.

I know, I’m doing a lot of retrospection to get to the bottom of WHY I’m finding these women.

The three girls who done MFM were all different. Only 2 never touched drugs, all 3 intelligent and not typical stupid dumb sl*t vibes. 2 had daddy issues, one had a great dad. I could argue all 3 had self esteem issues as none of them were hb8+ I think slightly less attractive women probably have more to prove and for a handsome Chad will do anything.

That’s why I’m going for top tier in looks now, they don’t have to do degrading things for approval. My money is enough now that I can actually secure the woman I want rather than be pursued and cave in to demands of hb7.5

 

[Bingo-Player]

So you would be cool with your wife and mother of your kids being passed around like a h0e while “eXpLoRiNg HeR sExUaLiTy”

I want the girl I commit to, to have some decency ffs. There will always be two dudes out there somewhere reminiscing the time they spitroast your wife.

Think we have been through this before but welcome to modern society

Men worked tirelessly through the 90's and early 00's too hyper sexualise women

Then women started sexualising themselves .....now theres no turning back we are on the ride

its like an all you can eat buffet of debuachry

If you don't like MMF threesomes you don't wanna hear about what chicks get up to on their summer holidays in Ibiza

biggest problem you have is that women are easily led by nature and there is tremendous pressure from all angles for her to be a sloot

She goes out on the weekend

They have some drinks , thirsty men swarming them , tinder matches , instagram leads ,guys from work

Next thing they are all back at some gaff sniffing chop and from there its just a matter of time before sex begins

Once she's indulged in it once its pretty easy for her to justify it again and again

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You either turn a blind eye to it or you take it for what it is

Women are not innocent

 

[Murk]

Think we have been through this before but welcome to modern society

Men worked tirelessly through the 90's and early 00's too hyper sexualise women

Then women started sexualising themselves .....now theres no turning back we are on the ride

its like an all you can eat buffet of debuachry

If you don't like MMF threesomes you don't wanna hear about what chicks get up to on their summer holidays in Ibiza

biggest problem you have is that women are easily led by nature and there is tremendous pressure from all angles for her to be a sloot

She goes out on the weekend

They have some drinks , thirsty men swarming them , tinder matches , instagram leads ,guys from work

Next thing they are all back at some gaff sniffing chop and from there its just a matter of time before sex begins

Once she's indulged in it once its pretty easy for her to justify it again and again

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You either turn a blind eye to it or you take it for what it is

Women are not innocent

No! There are plenty of attractive women who don’t sniff el chapos finest and have threesomes! I can’t believe your options for me are 1. Don’t ask as they all do it 2. Learn to live with it.

Come on man there are self respecting women from good homes with strong fathers that don’t degrade themselves like that.

Are you trying to say everyone on this forum is in an LTR, married or have kids with a h0e who’s done MFM?

 

[Bingo-Player]

No! There are plenty of attractive women who don’t sniff el chapos finest and have threesomes! I can’t believe your options for me are 1. Don’t ask as they all do it 2. Learn to live with it.

Come on man there are self respecting women from good homes with strong fathers that don’t degrade themselves like that.

Are you trying to say everyone on this forum is in an LTR, married or have kids with a h0e who’s done MFM?

Maybe there are but the chances of them being single after 25 are slim and my point was once these girls have a couple of years being single that is it game over

Your own data set proves that ..... you are viewing the world as though we are back in the 1950's / 60's

It's 2023 women are OVER empowered .....they are all on social media every day being told they can do absolutely anything they want with zero consequences

I live in a university city and i can see the entitlement dripping out of these young girls i pay attention to their conversations and behaviour every day ...they are fvcking like rabbits

one day some guy will end up wifing them wether they have that history or not

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You will drive yourself crazy trying to project your perfect woman onto thots , i am trying to help

 

[Murk]

Maybe there are but the chances of them being single after 25 are slim and my point was once these girls have a couple of years being single that is it game over

Your own data set proves that ..... you are viewing the world as though we are back in the 1950's / 60's

It's 2023 women are OVER empowered .....they are all on social media every day being told they can do absolutely anything they want with zero consequences

I live in a university city and i can see the entitlement dripping out of these young girls i pay attention to their conversations and behaviour every day ...they are fvcking like rabbits

one day some guy will end up wifing them wether they have that history or not

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You will drive yourself crazy trying to project your perfect woman onto thots , i am trying to help

I guess you're right, if I've not managed to find these ideal women so far when/where am I realistically going to find them? My issue is I will be 35 next year and I want to be married for religious purposes, I believe we are supposed to be married, and I want kids. I was even willing to settle with my ex gf because of the urge inside me to settle and be married is so strong.

I know a stunning girl I used to work with, a modelesque tall blonde, about 22-24 I can't remember, she was with her boyfriend from school since they were 14/15. Her bf was insecure as he was punching, he was out of shape and scruffy looking. I didn't think it would last but they're still together 2 years later (about 10 years in total). How unrealistic is it for me to find a girl like this? Her body count can't be more than 5 but hopefully, it's 1.

Should I find someone abroad? South America? I know I can pull girls under 25, I've pulled 18-year-olds before, I'm actually looking for a low 20s max 25-year-old. Even 25 feels too old now though. I feel like I'm not being unreasonable and it's possible for me to find what I'm looking for.

 

[SW15]

It's 2023 women are OVER empowered .....they are all on social media every day being told they can do absolutely anything they want with zero consequences

Women were over empowered even before social media and smartphones, but it's gotten worse since those got popular.

I live in a university city and i can see the entitlement dripping out of these young girls i pay attention to their conversations and behaviour every day ...they are fvcking like rabbits

one day some guy will end up wifing them wether they have that history or not

Men are thirsty and willing to commit to many women with significant baggage.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I know a stunning girl I used to work with, a modelesque tall blonde, about 22-24 I can't remember, she was with her boyfriend from school since they were 14/15. Her bf was insecure as he was punching, he was out of shape and scruffy looking. I didn't think it would last but they're still together 2 years later (about 10 years in total). How unrealistic is it for me to find a girl like this? Her body count can't be more than 5 but hopefully, it's 1.

Should I find someone abroad? South America? I know I can pull girls under 25, I've pulled 18-year-olds before, I'm actually looking for a low 20s max 25-year-old. Even 25 feels too old now though. I feel like I'm not being unreasonable and it's possible for me to find what I'm looking for.

You answered your own question

"they were together since 14/15" .......at this age women are more whimsical they are softer, more feminine they fall in love easier

As they get older they become more jaded , more reckless , more entitled and more delusional

Especially in somewhere like the Uk

I don't have an answer for you unless you want to try and reshape society to suit your own ideologies ( a bit like what Andrew Tate is currently doing ) this is a steep mountain

Bit it would give you more purpose and in theory should attract a better quality of woman into your life that support your thinking

Short of that i can offer some philosophy

"All of life's pain comes from wanting......... stop wanting and start accepting"

 

[Murk]

You answered your own question

"they were together since 14/15" .......at this age women are more whimsical they are softer, more feminine they fall in love easier

As they get older they become more jaded , more reckless , more entitled and more delusional

Especially in somewhere like the Uk

I don't have an answer for you unless you want to try and reshape society to suit your own ideologies ( a bit like what Andrew Tate is currently doing ) this is a steep mountain

Bit it would give you more purpose and in theory should attract a better quality of woman into your life that support your thinking

Short of that i can offer some philosophy

"All of life's pain comes from wanting......... stop wanting and start accepting"

My point was, can't I find a girl who had 1-2 LTR and now single? Why is that impossible? My ex-GF had a body count of 2 at age 22, before her decline into CC'dom. You're not giving me any reasons as to why I can't find a low 20s with low body count? It's almost like you're willing it into existence. I will never settle, I will f*ck off to SA and run my business remotely and find a Colombian if I have to. I will not be marrying or breeding a h0e, never. I don't think the marketplace is as bleak and pessimistic as you (and many others here) are making out.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

My point was, can't I find a girl who had 1-2 LTR and now single? Why is that impossible? My ex-GF had a body count of 2 at age 22, before her decline into CC'dom. You're not giving me any reasons as to why I can't find a low 20s with low body count? It's almost like you're willing it into existence. I will never settle, I will f*ck off to SA and run my business remotely and find a Colombian if I have to. I will not be marrying or breeding a h0e, never. I don't think the marketplace is as bleak and pessimistic as you (and many others here) are making out.

You do realize that an announced low bodycount of a 22y.o. woman doesnt proof she is not a hoe?

She could simple tell you what you want to hear and then you end up marrying a LYING 22 y.o. hoe.

And even IF she tells you the truth about her bodycount and only had 2 LTR, you dont know **** about WHY she has been fvcking these guys. She could have been in these relationships because her boyfriends payed for her expanses while she doesnt like sex at all and only fvcked them because they offered her free stuff, access to a higher social status or whatever. What kind of hoe is that?

How are you going to weed the hoes out anyway? For how long will they have to say NO to you until they prove they arent hoes? Or is it enough that they say they are no hoes but fvck on 1st,2nd,3rd date?

For how long are you dating women right now that say NO to you? 4 dates? 4 weeks? 3 Months? When exactly do you come to the conclusion that a chick is only wasting your time and has allready friendzoned you?

You also realize that by marrying a foreign woman from south america you could open up a whole new box of **** waiting to hit the fan that would make marrying a retired "hoe" (hoe by your standards) look like a walk in the park?


You are trying to set up an anti-hoe-formula which practically wont mean **** for the long run, even IF you are successfull to weed out the women with a bodycount of 3+.