Bible_Belt said:
fwiw, I would put Shields behind Fedor, Silva, and GSP at a minimum, as well as probably a few others, like Andrei Arlovski and even Machida, Damian Maia is probably better, too. My p4p nominee list is long.
Then i guess i would have to ask what you're definition of P4P is.
My P4P looks like this;
1. Fedor - the only guys who we're not sure can't beat him are Lesnar, Barnett & Overeem.
2. GSP - cleaned out a very stacked and active division dominantly. Also beat 2 other P4P candidate
3. A. Silva - cleaned out his division dominantly which is a bit weaker than LW & WW. would be above GSP if he beats Forrest in LHW div.
4. Torres - very active and dominantly finishes opponents
5. Penn - only 5 because he's lost in the WW div. But, he has beaten a P4P candidate
6. Matt Hughes - not a fan, but he was so dominant during his heyday & beat a P4P candidate.
I honestly don't think anyone else can be on the P4P list until they amass the record these men have.
I can see potential in Machida but he will have to defend his title a couple of times. People i'd like to see him fight for P4P ranking;
1. Rampage
2. Forrest
3. Shogun
4. Hendo
I think that list is definitive of the top 205-ers.