Minimal texting early on

[EyeBRollin]

When you're texting a woman, it is all the other things like building comfort, gaining enough trust to meet up with you, comfort in that you still like her after a date, etc. It's just merely a tool to open the doors or to keep the doors open to opportunities.

That is feminine behavior. Our job is not to make her feel “comfort.” Her anxiety is attraction. You making her comfortable interrupts that. She needs to feel the tension.

 

[Lookatu]

That is feminine behavior. Our job is not to make her feel “comfort.” Her anxiety is attraction. You making her comfortable interrupts that. She needs to feel the tension.

Statistics and polls have shown women need comfort and safety as their #1 thing before she is willing to sleep with a guy.

Agree to disagree. All I know is I date high quality women and texting(the way I do it) hasn't killed it off in any way.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Agree to disagree. All I know is I date high quality women and texting(the way I do it) hasn't killed it off in any way.

How many of those “high quality women” have asked you for exclusivity? Also, since you deem them higher than “low end 6/7s,” drop us some pics.

 

[Lookatu]

How many of those “high quality women” have asked you for exclusivity? Also, since you deem them higher than “low end 6/7s,” drop us some pics.

Most of them.

Let me ask you how many long term relationships have you had and for how long each?

You're type of thinking seems more conducive with smash and dash or STR dynamics and that's perfectly fine if that's what you're after but speaking from experience, I can tell you that won't work with quality women looking for LTR's or anything serious with you.

 

[aloofgoof]

I have lost more interest being too needy on text than too distant.

The focus should be more on who initiates. The point of not initiating and sending “warm” filler texts is to weed out low interest and also not to look needy. It works. It works for whatever type of relationship you’re looking for. Just like men, women will text and initiate if they are interested in seeing you. You have to let them chase some.

Yes, I’ve had some straight up tell me they felt I wasn’t interested because I did not initiate much. That’s much easier to calibrate and fix than overdoing it.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Most of them.

Let me ask you how many long term relationships have you had and for how long each?

You're type of thinking seems more conducive with smash and dash or STR dynamics and that's perfectly fine if that's what you're after but speaking from experience, I can tell you that won't work with quality women looking for LTR's or anything serious with you.

On the contrary. My last three LTRs I did the dumping. My staying power is absolute. I let them come to me and they do the initiating. You my friend are suggesting to go against competition anxiety and hypergamy. It’s just bad advice all around. Let’s see some pics.

 

[Lookatu]

On the contrary. My last three LTRs I did the dumping. My staying power is absolute. I let them come to me and they do the initiating. You my friend are suggesting to go against competition anxiety and hypergamy. It’s just bad advice all around. Let’s see some pics.

Good that it's working for you. You do you.

 

[Bigpapa]

Good that it's working for you. You do you.

it is difficult to know what would work also for you if you do not genuinely try it

the only way moving forward in seduction , but also in most aspects in life , is to always try to improve and try new things , and then see what Can improve you as a seducer

I usually go 70 % on what worked and 30% on new stuff . If you are more traditionalist you can go 90% on what you think yields best results and 10% on trying on new things

but always keep in mind that you have to try the new thing on a multiple of girls , till you can say for certain that it works or not

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

On the contrary. My last three LTRs I did the dumping. My staying power is absolute. I let them come to me and they do the initiating. You my friend are suggesting to go against competition anxiety and hypergamy. It’s just bad advice all around. Let’s see some pics.

So why date women that aren't good enough to meet 50% interest level? Unless the girl outright cheated on you, but why did you dump these girls? I dumped both of my previous exes, but I always knew that the relationship wasn't going to go to marriage unless it was my last available option.

 

[Lookatu]

it is difficult to know what would work also for you if you do not genuinely try it

the only way moving forward in seduction , but also in most aspects in life , is to always try to improve and try new things , and then see what Can improve you as a seducer

I usually go 70 % on what worked and 30% on new stuff . If you are more traditionalist you can go 90% on what you think yields best results and 10% on trying on new things

but always keep in mind that you have to try the new thing on a multiple of girls , till you can say for certain that it works or not

Exactly. There is no wrong or right way like some people here try to put a formula on. If it was, we'd all be having success with 100% of the women we are interested in. There are many ways to skin the cat and everyone and every situation is unique. There is nothing wrong with having or following loose guidelines to start from however.

People here read too much but do not try various things and only stick to a very rigid set of rules.

As with anything in life, one must be fluid, flexible, adapt. Once you become rigid is when you lost and limit one's self.

 

[EyeBRollin]

So why date women that aren't good enough to meet 50% interest level? Unless the girl outright cheated on you, but why did you dump these girls? I dumped both of my previous exes, but I always knew that the relationship wasn't going to go to marriage unless it was my last available option.

They lowered my interest level over time. We get to have standards too, right?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

They lowered my interest level over time. We get to have standards too, right?

That's understandable lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

Exactly. There is no wrong or right way like some people here try to put a formula on. If it was, we'd all be having success with 100% of the women we are interested in. There are many ways to skin the cat and everyone and every situation is unique. There is nothing wrong with having or following loose guidelines to start from however.

People here read too much but do not try various things and only stick to a very rigid set of rules.

As with anything in life, one must be fluid, flexible, adapt. Once you become rigid is when you lost and limit one's self.

Being fluid works once in a relationship. It doesn’t work while dating. I’m consistent with every woman I meet. I use the same script and tactics on hundreds of women. If the constant is me, the variation in outcomes is based on the woman. This is how we screen. Guys new to the game mess up by trying to tailor themselves to each woman. It doesn’t work.

 

[BeExcellent]

My friend who has a dozen or more women in his rotation, does exactly as @cola does.

He reaches out with something light or flirty and builds comfort and rapport. The women respond very positively to this and they get into conversations and flirting back and forth.

Very few men do this. I’ve sat beside him watching how women respond...it’s consistent and is builds desire and anticipation for the next time he sees them.

Now. He also is a tall, handsome man who is intelligent and witty or charming...but he laughs all the time about how many women tell him how much they appreciate his banter.

Get good at banter. This guy will tell a woman what color panties to wear after he’s sexualized the banter and he is nuanced enough to know where and when to push and not to.

Great banter over text is a huge asset to your game & sets you apart. Learn it, it’s a social skill like anything else, and it will set you apart from other men.

Trust me.

Don’t be so rigid about initiating either. Remember you are the man. Your job is to LEAD. That means lead her along very early on. Start up conversation & banter, keep it light & fun & it will make you stand out from other men who can’t, won’t or don’t.

 

[Velasco]

builds desire and anticipation for the next time he sees them.

this is the desired effect you want.

can also get this with zero initiating and only responding with 1-2 texts to her initiation texts if that's your style

 

[Lookatu]

Being fluid works once in a relationship. It doesn’t work while dating. I’m consistent with every woman I meet. I use the same script and tactics on hundreds of women. If the constant is me, the variation in outcomes is based on the woman. This is how we screen. Guys new to the game mess up by trying to tailor themselves to each woman. It doesn’t work.

This is severely flawed but I'm not here to keep debating this topic as it will get nowhere. Like I said, glad your methods are working for you. I have what has worked for me and you have what works for you. I can't debate things that have worked for you just like you can't debate what has worked for me.

 

[BeExcellent]

this is the desired effect you want.

can also get this with zero initiating and only responding with 1-2 texts to her initiation texts if that's your style

True. But the banter shows he is not only attractive, but he is playful and fun and engaging. Demonstrating playfulness, fun and engaging puts him head & shoulders above a man who is radio silent or a man who waits for the chick to reach out.

Guys like my friend literally run circles around the radio silent/wait for the chick to message crowd.

 

[MoMoses]

It only hurts you if you send mundane, poorly thought our texts, or needy texts like “wyd”, “wya” ..

But if your thoughtful, witty and find the correct balance between “he’s showing me he’s interested” & “he’s needy, he texts too much”

It can be a great way to move things along quicker, build rapport, plant seeds in her mind and build anticipation/excitement ..

An example: I have this girl I’m dating now, really great girl. So we have this “thing” going where I never tell her where we are going, just how to dress.
For instance last week I text her early in the week “11 pm Friday, dress sexy I want you to be the sexiest woman in the room” .. And all week I’d ask things like “What color panties you gonna wear Friday?” And little flirty messages like that..

She f*cking loves it, that sh*t drives her wild.

@cola .. you are one of the people with the best advice on this entire forum. Just needed to say this in public.

Time and time again I find myself agreeing with your posts. You know how the game is played. Respect

 

[Velasco]

banter shows he is not only attractive, but he is playful and fun and engaging.

ya i save that for when i'm in front of her as explained here

https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...imalist-conversationalist-or-seductive.23908/

 

[MoMoses]

Sorry guy this belief is just not true. Texting does not improve your chances. You cannot talk a woman into liking you. This is an objective truth so many guys are unwilling to accept.

I completely agree with you @EyeBRollin . However I feel @Lookatu (I wanted to type Lukaku) has a point too. I honestly feel you are both right but that you are looking at this from a different angle.

You cannot talk a woman into liking you. True. If you mean liking you is feeling attracted to you or falling for you. You can raise a girl's interest with text game though. Her curiosity will grow and this can lead to attraction later on. With solid text game you can lay the foundation and then when you meet and you bring your A-game? Boy.. fireworks. You've got her man. She was already feeling excited before meeting you and then you deliver and escalate things by kissing her? She'll be so incredibly attracted to you at this point.

So yes, you cannot raise attraction by texting, but if you're doing things right your texting skills will help pave the road to her heart once you get to meet her. I've done this hundred of times.

Texting without meeting up or texting to the point where you're overtexting on the other hand is killing the potential.