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It's never been any secret that the current FWB has had her sluttier moments in the past - it's never fazed me and it's definitely not a dealbreaker given the nature of our arrangement. Now and again when we're talking about certain nightspots, she'll say something like, "Oh, I love that place, but I always used to get shot down when I'd try and approach guys there".

Pfffft, you mean, the guys wouldn't come over when you'd try to look all cute and approachable right?

No, I mean they'd act all indifferent when I'd try to talk to them.

Riiiight, well, I'm sure you didn't have it all your own way all the time, I can accept that.

So, I'm thinking ok, maybe she and her clique might actually have some appreciation, some empathy for what guys have to go through to get a girl into bed. And then she dropped this bombshell on me....

Since she loves dishing the dirt on her friends (she is a woman after all) she tells me how she and four of her friends are getting sauced around a kitchen table and discussing their "number". Bear in mind that none of this was prefaced with "holy fvcking sh!t, can you believe this motherfvcking insanity!!!!!", it was just "hey, how about this stuff, meh". Normal, she said this to me as though it was well within the bounds of normal expectations. Got it?

One girl went from having only had one sexual partner, to thirty, in the course of a single year. She's a five looks-wise, smart girl and pretty funny, but soooo messed up. And she was able to effortlessly sample 29 new c0cks in a single year.

Another, described to me as an alcoholic and a general train wreck, had amassed "somewhere" between 150 and 200 sexual partners in her 35 years on the planet, nearly all drunken one night stands. I explained to my FWB, that this would put her acquaintance in the top 1% of the male population conquest wise - guys with the total package who make it a mission to bang as many women as possible. That's when I think she started to realise how obscene this whole scenario must have appeared to me.

But this shouldn't be construed as another rant about slutty female behaviour. It just really drives home the point that women get to play the sex and relationships game, on the easy setting, in God-mode, with infinite health and ammo - and no-one wants advice or sympathy from a noob playing with hax.
 
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Doesnt take a genius to realize that women play the dating game in god mode plus cheats and thanks to law even the marriage one, just some mangina or idiot doesnt get it.

Regarding that 5 getting all those guys I believe it, in fact I believe the c0ck count of a 5 is much highter than a 9 for the simple fact that a 9 by dating up has less men who turn her on or boost her ego physically while a 5 has plenty of chances to date up.

Its the opposite of guys since we mostly date even or down, a 9 has much more possible girls than a 7 for example.
 

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Regarding that 5 getting all those guys I believe it, in fact I believe the c0ck count of a 5 is much highter than a 9 for the simple fact that a 9 by dating up has less men who turn her on or boost her ego physically while a 5 has plenty of chances to date up.
That's certainly the impression I get too. The five is also less likely to get wifed up, and she's going to serve much more time on plain old booty duty.
 

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But this shouldn't be construed as another rant about slutty female behaviour. It just really drives home the point that women get to play the sex and relationships game, on the easy setting, in God-mode, with infinite health and ammo - and no-one wants advice or sympathy from a noob playing with hax.
see i don't agree with that whatsoever.

beucase while women get approached and are always wanted, that does not mean that they are necessairly wanted by guys they desire. and being honest, most women are born with limits on the level of the man they can get simply due to genetics.

yeah the HB5 might be shopping at basket robbins for ****s trying out all new flavors but a guy like me who has his **** together and who easiliy pulls 7.5's-8's and married a hb8.5-9 woudln't give her the time of day. and at the end of the day i'm the guy she wants or something similar to me.

so whose happier, the guy who works his way up, and is able to keep 2-3 HB8's interested in him all the time or the girl who can have one night stands with guys she really isn't longing for.

imy old best friend had this mentality. dude was a genetic god, but had low self esteem. he would **** hb5's and 6's all day long but when i started pulling quality poon he got jealous and we aren't friends anymore.

9's and 10's become sexually active a lot earlier in life a
lol how a woman looks has about zero effect on when a woman becomes sexually active. basketball / football players will get blow jobs from hb6's and not think twice about it trust me lol. my wife lost her virginity at 17. most girls regardless of looks loose their virginity between 16 and 19.
 

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no man will ever know with any real accuracy, exactly how many the girl has been with or what she has done, whatever her reports are, it will always be under reported, a bit like an alcoholic going to the docs and telling the doc he only drinks a few beers per day.
 

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The feel when I'll never settle for a slut and die alone.
 

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betheman said:
no man will ever know with any real accuracy, exactly how many the girl has been with or what she has done, whatever her reports are, it will always be under reported, a bit like an alcoholic going to the docs and telling the doc he only drinks a few beers per day.

True story.

I don't obsess over numbers. You'll get a ballpark figure from spending enough time with her, but with specifics you are better off not knowing. A couple reasons:

-It's almost certainly under-reported
-Specific numbers paint a picture

If she told you "less than 10", you think, ok, not too bad. But if she told you "9", it makes it more real. You will now think about how 9 dudes did all manner of dirty things to her, probably on the face you are kissing.

In this case it's just better to be ignorant of the details.
 

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I find it more interesting how they always volunteer this information, usually to fill a void in conversation. I don't obsess over numbers, but some really do shock or disgust me especially in the manner they were obtained.
 

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Any time you have the inkling of an idea to take dating advice from a chick, reread the OP. Realize that the viewpoint of the sexes in the same game as so different, then only take advice from guys that have demonstrated success.
 

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Egg vs. sperm valuation. Of course women can bang as much as they want, is that really surprising?

What IS interesting is the top% alpha carousel you begin seeing in real life. In the nightlife for example, I'm privy to a few guys in my metro area who a lot of girls I've slept with, also slept with them. It's funny because it's one thing to read about it, but another thing entirely to see it in action - that a small percentage of guys DO get most of the poon, from the SAME girls.

At the upper ends of attractiveness, everyone does fvck everyone else. At the lower ends, I don't know, but I would assume it's also true.
 

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Keep in mind that self-reported sexual statistics are usually entirely fabricated. Any girl who volunteers that information is suspect though. It's don't ask, don't tell as far as I'm concerned. And it's one number I'll never tell anybody ever, except maybe alluding to it anonymously online among total strangers (such as here.)

The question the OP should be asking is: if these chicks are all so slutty, why isn't he banging all (or most) of them?
 

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Wilko said:
It's never been any secret that the current FWB has had her sluttier moments in the past - it's never fazed me and it's definitely not a dealbreaker given the nature of our arrangement. Now and again when we're talking about certain nightspots, she'll say something like, "Oh, I love that place, but I always used to get shot down when I'd try and approach guys there".

Pfffft, you mean, the guys wouldn't come over when you'd try to look all cute and approachable right?

No, I mean they'd act all indifferent when I'd try to talk to them.

Riiiight, well, I'm sure you didn't have it all your own way all the time, I can accept that.

So, I'm thinking ok, maybe she and her clique might actually have some appreciation, some empathy for what guys have to go through to get a girl into bed. And then she dropped this bombshell on me....

Since she loves dishing the dirt on her friends (she is a woman after all) she tells me how she and four of her friends are getting sauced around a kitchen table and discussing their "number". Bear in mind that none of this was prefaced with "holy fvcking sh!t, can you believe this motherfvcking insanity!!!!!", it was just "hey, how about this stuff, meh". Normal, she said this to me though it was well within the bounds of normal expectations. Got it?

One girl went from having only had one sexual partner, to thirty, in the course of a single year. She's a five looks-wise, smart girl and pretty funny, but soooo messed up. And she was able to effortlessly sample 29 new c0cks in a single year.

Another, described to me as an alcoholic and a general train wreck, had amassed "somewhere" between 150 and 200 sexual partners in her 35 years on the planet, nearly all drunken one night stands. I explained to my FWB, that this would put her acquaintance in the top 1% of the male population conquest wise - guys with the total package who make it a mission to bang as many women as possible. That's when I think she started to realise how obscene this whole scenario must have appeared to me.

But this shouldn't be construed as another rant about slutty female behaviour. It just really drives home the point that women get to play the sex and relationships game, on the easy setting, in God-mode, with infinite health and ammo - and no-one wants advice or sympathy from a noob playing with hax.
Repped. This is exactly the information that young guys need to have.

The girl who went from 1 to 30 notches in one year: that's your typical college freshman. All it takes to get 29 fvcks is going out on Saturday night, 1 - 3 times a month. During that time she also gets an increasing number of repeat visits as she's on geometrically more cell phones. And all-day-every-day texts, "Likes," and "Pokes." And free drinks, free meals, free movies, free rides, free slot play, flowers, gifts, "cab money," etc. Then of course, the Cap'n Save-a-Hos one by one try to wife her up, keep telling themselves she's "not a slvt" and "not really promiscuous." They get that sick feeling in the pit of the stomach when they find out they're being casually cheated on, and leave, only to be replaced by another eager WK. Except now she's wised up and makes her "boy friend" take her shopping (buy her clothes/cosmetics to help her snag other d1cks).

It's a seriously abusive pathology, and it's only her 19th birthday. Imagine what sh1t-for-brains she'll have by the time she leaves college and becomes professional office furniture A.K.A. single mom?

Don't even imagine yourself getting to my age, and being shamed into fvcking the 30-something train wrecks. Hell no!
 

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LOL that's a bit extreme. Most women have no desire to notch up endless flings. "God-mode" for a man is not something that the vast majority of women are looking for. j

Back in '08 I dumped a chick because she was awful in bed (didn't tell her this though) and she said "You could have said we weren't compatible before sleeping with me. Now I've slept with a dozen men and I'm not even married yet." She actually started crying about it, because apparently the "dozen" aspect really made her feel like a slut. And this chick was 36. LOL

So not every girl out there is shooting for triple digits. :up:
 

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Zarky said:
Now I've slept with a dozen men and I'm not even married yet." She actually started crying about it, because apparently the "dozen" aspect really made her feel like a slut. And this chick was 36. LOL
A dozen is a slut.

6 sexual partners is enough to see an increase in an inability for a woman to long term pair bond by 70%. So yeah by it's literal definition she's a slut and then some in terms of a viable option for men looking for a long term mate.

Mind you I'm telling this to a troll, who's male persona is a dainty "playa" with admittedly no male friends, who only ever scores chicks off POF. :crazy:

Back in your box woman.
 

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This needs to be stickied, and as a heads up to any guy looking to get into a serious LTR all I can say is don't do it and if you must then screen screen and screen some more.

Sh!t I thought my numbers were wacked but 30 guys in a single year by some fugly really did blow my mind thats a score a week. Hell even when I was in my best physical condition I could only make enough time to rotate 2-3 girls at a time over a few month period. I think it boils down to looking like a 8-9 and most girls picking up the vibe that you're a "playa" and getting shot down more then often.

And for most chicks all they gotta do is smile bat their eyes and some fool will be drooling from the mouth and from the d!ck.

Having said all this its high time I get back into kick a$$ shape and experiment a bit more with all the knowledge I've amassed over the years here.
 

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Sorry to cvm and run like that. For once, I'm proud to say I was actually too busy shagging to post a reply.

Fvck me, I'm going to agree with nearly every one here on some level.

Yes, it (mostly) doesn't pay to get too hung up about a girl's number.

Yes, there is probably some selection bias taking place here; repeat the same exercise with a bunch of 30 year old married women instead of the 30 year old single party girls, and the results probably aren't going to be quite as shocking.

Yes, sh!t like this is ominous if you're any kind of traditionalist, and yes, women with a low lay count probably do make better traditional wives. Personally, I think traditional marriage has always been a raw deal for men anyway, but I'm not stopping anyone.

Reasonable looking, relatively easy, and excellent company - that's what I personally like.
 

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Wilko said:
and yes, women with a low lay count probably do make better traditional wives.
Not just traditional wives, long term partnering in general. It's been discussed here there and everywhere in the manosphere plenty of times, women are just not built mind and body to carousel aka "behave like a man". Messes them up and makes them a proven liability. As was already pretty obvious anyway but facts always come in handy to destroy the fembots and forgiving(desperate) manginas.

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Sorry to cvm and run like that. For once, I'm proud to say I was actually too busy shagging to post a reply.
:up:
 

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So, who still thinks it's worth busting their ass in the gym and the office so they can enjoy an ever-so-slightly greater quantity or quality of pvssy? Oh, but you don't do it just for the pvssy right? That's just a welcome side effect you say, I do those things for myself first and foremost! Sure you do buddy, sure you do.

If I ignore the effect it has on my SMV and I consider only my own needs, there's absolutely no need for me to bust my ass once I've achieved basic health and fitness/financial self-sufficiency. If the sexual rewards for busting my ass were in anyway proportional to the input, it would be a different story, but it isn't.
 

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Wilko said:
So, who still thinks it's worth busting their ass in the gym and the office so they can enjoy an ever-so-slightly greater quantity or quality of pvssy? Oh, but you don't do it just for the pvssy right? That's just a welcome side effect you say, I do those things for myself first and foremost! Sure you do buddy, sure you do.

If I ignore the effect it has on my SMV and I consider only my own needs, there's absolutely no need for me to bust my ass once I've achieved basic health and fitness/financial self-sufficiency. If the sexual rewards for busting my ass were in anyway proportional to the input, it would be a different story, but it isn't.
If you take away a man's **dreams** he really is just a piece of meat

the elite know that if you dangle women in front of men, men will be content to spend a lifetime in debt fighting over fiat currency questioning nothing.

what does it tell you then that women over the last 50 years have been programmed to be more combative and hostile towards THE VERY MEN WHO WOULD DIE FOR THEM

what do you thing the elite agenda is :up: :crackup:
 
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