Men Ruining It for All Men

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We're in the day and age where even women who are HB6s are being worshipped by thirsty, pathetic men creating an unrealistic society. Women feed off these pathetic men and turn a blind eye to those who won't cater to their fake "high social status" on social media. I've seen far too many average chicks think they're something special because of their thirsty followers online. It's creating a real problem even in the real world as most of these women don't need the attention in real life as much. Suddenly approaching with success is scarce because of their fruit fly-like attention span and desire to get back on their phones to see who's liked what pic on their page. It's disgusting and frankly men are the cause of this. Unplug gentlemen. Stop giving women these false senses of entitlement. Those who are doing this can bring back balance to the dating scene. What good does following a chick online do for you? If you get off on just oogling at pictures of women then you have other problems and should seek help.
 

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We're in the day and age where even women who are HB6s are being worshipped by thirsty, pathetic men creating an unrealistic society. Women feed off these pathetic men and turn a blind eye to those who won't cater to their fake "high social status" on social media. I've seen far too many average chicks think they're something special because of their thirsty followers online. It's creating a real problem even in the real world as most of these women don't need the attention in real life as much. Suddenly approaching with success is scarce because of their fruit fly-like attention span and desire to get back on their phones to see who's liked what pic on their page. It's disgusting and frankly men are the cause of this. Unplug gentlemen. Stop giving women these false senses of entitlement. Those who are doing this can bring back balance to the dating scene. What good does following a chick online do for you? If you get off on just oogling at pictures of women then you have other problems and should seek help.
You okay dude?
 

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As the simps fight among themselves, the standard of women will only go up funneling their attention to a smaller amount of men.
 

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You're preaching to the Choir here on SS.

This has been known for awhile now but glad you are reminding all the new guys at least.

The main problem is women have unity and can push something like feminism forward with force. While guys can't.

Because guys kryptonite is pvssy which apparently has gotten more valuable than gold lately so in that regard, guys can't all come together to support this type of agenda effectively. Yes blame the weak, uninformed, blue pill, disney dream simps out there.

The only thing that will help the cause is internet virus outage or EMP bomb, or when the advanced sexbots become a reality.

Otherwise all these weak and clueless guys out there are going to support and further these gals where they will run everything and be all of our bosses some day.

What we need is a united men's movement hashtag to get the word out and educate but a lot of simps/feminists are gonna shut it down as being misogynist and cancel it.
 

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The problem comes from both the bottom (simps) and the top (chads).

Simps worship any sea monster wheter they are whales or lobsters while chads would bang everyday plain janes as long as its quick enough and low effort.

The result is that everyday women consider men generally as utilities or comodities if not work drones for their everyday need with no dignity or necessities.

They also cant tell the difference between a guy being interested in sex and a guy being willing to commit, since they demand the same value in a guy for both these options they think it works the same for guys.
They fail to realize that an 8 would easily bang a 6 but would not commit to any woman below a 8...they think that since 8s are pumping&dumping them, they are 8s themselves.

So the result is the average women considering 90% men as tools to use and throw way while feeling genuinely entitled and worth of that top 10%.

Women fvcked up for men and for themselves the same moment they gave free easy sex to chads without demanding anything in return.

That decreased their value generally, their chances to get a relationship before they expire and their ability to pair bond or find a man of value.

The average men finally saw whats going on and is generally disgusted from it, no fvcking wonder pump&dump is what most of us do.
 

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The problem comes from both the bottom (simps) and the top (chads).

Simps worship any sea monster wheter they are whales or lobsters while chads would bang everyday plain janes as long as its quick enough and low effort.

The result is that everyday women consider men generally as utilities or comodities if not work drones for their everyday need with no dignity or necessities.

They also cant tell the difference between a guy being interested in sex and a guy being willing to commit, since they demand the same value in a guy for both these options they think it works the same for guys.
They fail to realize that an 8 would easily bang a 6 but would not commit to any woman below a 8...they think that since 8s are pumping&dumping them, they are 8s themselves.

So the result is the average women considering 90% men as tools to use and throw way while feeling genuinely entitled and worth of that top 10%.

Women fvcked up for men and for themselves the same moment they gave free easy sex to chads without demanding anything in return.

That decreased their value generally, their chances to get a relationship before they expire and their ability to pair bond or find a man of value.

The average men finally saw whats going on and is generally disgusted from it, no fvcking wonder pump&dump is what most of us do.
I do not think that things changed that much , just that the internet made this more transparent and more available

humans are more less wired to behave like this , and I would not really blame anyone else except the weak men :)

the problem with weak men is that they accept too much and always trying to please the woman , which in return makes the women feel entitled to everything without giving back anything

I think that we all dated a woman that previously had a relationship with a weak guy and making a lot of drama when things were not really going her way
 

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Did he say anything strange?
The last line he suggests guys should seek help. The reality is he needs to seek help because this is not the same society as the mid-00s when that type advice would actually be valid. Most people think the social contract has just gone off the rails and there is no 'seek help' advice that has any traction today. There is resigned acknowledgment going around that this is the new normal and to be expected with the way things are today. The OP is therefore sounding crazy.
 

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The problem comes from both the bottom (simps) and the top (chads).

Simps worship any sea monster wheter they are whales or lobsters while chads would bang everyday plain janes as long as its quick enough and low effort.

The result is that everyday women consider men generally as utilities or comodities if not work drones for their everyday need with no dignity or necessities.

They also cant tell the difference between a guy being interested in sex and a guy being willing to commit, since they demand the same value in a guy for both these options they think it works the same for guys.
They fail to realize that an 8 would easily bang a 6 but would not commit to any woman below a 8...they think that since 8s are pumping&dumping them, they are 8s themselves.

So the result is the average women considering 90% men as tools to use and throw way while feeling genuinely entitled and worth of that top 10%.

Women fvcked up for men and for themselves the same moment they gave free easy sex to chads without demanding anything in return.

That decreased their value generally, their chances to get a relationship before they expire and their ability to pair bond or find a man of value.

The average men finally saw whats going on and is generally disgusted from it, no fvcking wonder pump&dump is what most of us do.
this is all true.
that bit about women not being able to tell the difference between men who want sex only and men who want a relationship is horrifyingly true.
How naive and childlike of women to trust without verifying.

That other bit you wrote about how even average men can't be blamed for pumping & dumping translates to even less men being open to the idea of relationships.

So eventually, there will be no more relationships?
 

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this is all true.
that bit about women not being able to tell the difference between men who want sex only and men who want a relationship is horrifyingly true.
How naive and childlike of women to trust without verifying.

That other bit you wrote about how even average men can't be blamed for pumping & dumping translates to even less men being open to the idea of relationships.

So eventually, there will be no more relationships?
Well we are not talking about the future, we are in the all time high of singles all around and its not gonna go away in this or the next generation.
 

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Well we are not talking about the future, we are in the all time high of singles all around and its not gonna go away in this or the next generation.
yes, this is now.

I just felt better thinking that the end hadn't come yet. Unsettling, facing reality.

Ok, someone end the internet. It can't come soon enough.
 

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The last line he suggests guys should seek help. The reality is he needs to seek help because this is not the same society as the mid-00s when that type advice would actually be valid. Most people think the social contract has just gone off the rails and there is no 'seek help' advice that has any traction today. There is resigned acknowledgment going around that this is the new normal and to be expected with the way things are today. The OP is therefore sounding crazy.
His advice to not being obsessive over women? I interpreted his message as an acknowledgement of the current situation and to "seek help" not for picking up girls but for mental health reasons bcus of the very real problem of attention spamming on social media. I actually dont understand your explanation.
 

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they know intellectually, but their ego prevents them from internalizing it. They are greedy. How do we know? They still date equal men, they just don't treat them very well.
a woman's ego

Yes, it does prevent her from internalising the truth.

Depends on what stage she is at top form, pre-epiphany, epiphany, prewall, postwall(did I forget any?)

Probably also depends her state of scarcity, loneliness, perception/knowledge of her own market value.

I think with more women thinking more masculinely, they adopt that belief that you are the hb # that you attract or date. You read guys tell other guys here that fact.
I think girls forget they are girls.

Btw,from in your other comment here, I've never seen your pic LARaiders but there's no way you're that unattractive to warrant a mean comment from a chic that let slip she wasn't dating you for your looks. That's too low of a type of neg for her to use on you. F*ck that broad.
 

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Did he say anything strange?
What the OP is saying is/should already be standard knowledge with what a lot of mainstream dudes and media are telling males to do. Just look at the ads, the insta, the only fans (still don't understand this), twitch, etc. At SoSuave we try to teach that dudes need to avoid these distractions and noise. Instead, focus on one's self and their purpose. Go through life with a IDGAF type of attitude. Don't be a thirsty dude and focus on themselves as priority # 1. This is how it's always been. Dudes were hunters and gathers. Females took care of the family and raised the offspring. Life is in a tailspin right now where the average dude doesn't know which way is up and the females are taking on more masculine roles in life.
 

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What the OP is saying is/should already be standard knowledge with what a lot of mainstream dudes and media are telling males to do. Just look at the ads, the insta, the only fans (still don't understand this), twitch, etc. At SoSuave we try to teach that dudes need to avoid these distractions and noise. Instead, focus on one's self and their purpose. Go through life with a IDGAF type of attitude. Don't be a thirsty dude and focus on themselves as priority # 1. This is how it's always been. Dudes were hunters and gathers. Females took care of the family and raised the offspring. Life is in a tailspin right now where the average dude doesn't know which way is up and the females are taking on more masculine roles in life.
He's being ignorantly redundant to some people in the forum. Therefore he needs help?

Many ppl spout the same points across different scenarios for different reasons. It's fine. It's ok to just admit that he was being poked at.
 

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We're in the day and age where even women who are HB6s are being worshipped by thirsty, pathetic men creating an unrealistic society. Women feed off these pathetic men and turn a blind eye to those who won't cater to their fake "high social status" on social media. I've seen far too many average chicks think they're something special because of their thirsty followers online. It's creating a real problem even in the real world as most of these women don't need the attention in real life as much. Suddenly approaching with success is scarce because of their fruit fly-like attention span and desire to get back on their phones to see who's liked what pic on their page. It's disgusting and frankly men are the cause of this. Unplug gentlemen. Stop giving women these false senses of entitlement. Those who are doing this can bring back balance to the dating scene. What good does following a chick online do for you? If you get off on just oogling at pictures of women then you have other problems and should seek help.
You are wrong, dude. Those thirsty men don't change anything. Because women don't need those men, they don't get validated by them. They get their validation only from men they consider equal or above. On the contrary, the more there are thirsty men, the easier it is for you to bath in ***** as long as you aren't one of them. Do you really believe that things are hard nowadays? Lol. This is the easiest time throughout the history of humanity to have sex with many women, at least in more advanced countries. Don't believe me? Visit any Muslim country, ask men there how easy it is for them to get laid, lol. In a conservative country, it is easy to find a loyal wife, but it is literally impossible to be a player, to be a Don Juan. Casual sex is still not easy for most men, but it never was and never would be. Women want to have "just sex" only with the best of the best. But it never was easier to become "one of those guys". We have all the information we need, we have gyms, we have stylists. You can maximize your looks and game as long as you put enough effort into it.
 

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You are wrong, dude. Those thirsty men don't change anything. Because women don't need those men, they don't get validated by them. They get their validation only from men they consider equal or above. On the contrary, the more there are thirsty men, the easier it is for you to bath in ***** as long as you aren't one of them. Do you really believe that things are hard nowadays? Lol. This is the easiest time throughout the history of humanity to have sex with many women, at least in more advanced countries. Don't believe me? Visit any Muslim country, ask men there how easy it is for them to get laid, lol. In a conservative country, it is easy to find a loyal wife, but it is literally impossible to be a player, to be a Don Juan. Casual sex is still not easy for most men, but it never was and never would be. Women want to have "just sex" only with the best of the best. But it never was easier to become "one of those guys". We have all the information we need, we have gyms, we have stylists. You can maximize your looks and game as long as you put enough effort into it.
it is not about if they care or not about those men , it is about that women think that they are hotter than they are

which means that the average guy gets a tougher time to sleep with them

then yes , it is true that the average guy has to understand that he needs to work more on his life , but in the same time the average guy does not do anything to improve his chances . He just complains about how evil women are

it is chain event , and guys rather than doing something , they just complain
 

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He's being ignorantly redundant to some people in the forum. Therefore he needs help?

Many ppl spout the same points across different scenarios for different reasons. It's fine. It's ok to just admit that he was being poked at.
Nothing wrong with what he typed at all. I'm just saying, this is the norm, and not unusual. When a dude (or dudette) comes to SS, get ready for some cold hard truth. This is one of those times where when a person first reads it, they are taken back. A dude basically needs to do the opposite in most situations with females and go against the grain. It may feel weird or strange, but that is what needs to be done.
 

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What the OP is saying is/should already be standard knowledge with what a lot of mainstream dudes and media are telling males to do. Just look at the ads, the insta, the only fans (still don't understand this), twitch, etc. At SoSuave we try to teach that dudes need to avoid these distractions and noise. Instead, focus on one's self and their purpose. Go through life with a IDGAF type of attitude. Don't be a thirsty dude and focus on themselves as priority # 1. This is how it's always been. Dudes were hunters and gathers. Females took care of the family and raised the offspring. Life is in a tailspin right now where the average dude doesn't know which way is up and the females are taking on more masculine roles in life.
You're not wrong. It should be standard knowledge however I'm okay with re-iterating it rather than sit back and accept it for what it is. I don't expect my post to move worlds. But hopefully some lost soul read it and is changing his behavior. I've given **** to all my male friends for following any chick on IG just to gawk at their photos. I once too did it and realized the consequences of my behavior. It's getting worse I fear with this lockdown. Maybe I am losing it lol
 

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