Men have to prove they are worth it to women.

[Trump]

An article where a girl won’t sleep with you unless you prove you are worth it.

I'm The Girl Who Won't Sleep With You Until You Prove You're Worth It

I'm a grown woman who won't lay down until you show me you're worth it.

www.bolde.com

Does she have a point or is she out to lunch?

 

[17 shots]

The problem is that most men will take her rejection of physical contact personally, and will think she's a lost cause, or that she's just stringing them along. Most men won't be able to read between the lines. She says she doesn't want a player, but it's mostly players who can read a women's interest without needing sex to validate it

Another issue, is that most women are not as good at expressing themselves about this subject in person, as well as this woman was able to do in writing. This leads to sexual advances getting rejecting, without the type of reassuring explanation, that most men would need to hear

 

[Robert28]

She would have to PROVE to me that she’s never slept with any guy before the 3rd date or had a one night stand for me to believe her. Then maybe I’d believe her. Maybe.

 

[AJ84]

Honestly, she sounds like someone who got burned before, learned her mistakes, and now has decided to have better judgment and values and developed boundaries so that she can better her chances of having the kind of relationship she wants with men.

Which, if you switch genders, is literally no different than what 95.5% percent of the guys on this site are trying to do after their own bad experiences.

The reality is that both people need to earn it. If she wants his emotional investment, she needs to earn that. Some women think that just giving him sex will lead to his emotional investment and that’s not true, which is blatantly evident from many of the posts on this site. The pump and dump thing goes two ways, it’s not always the guys fault, IMO. And I think the article should have elaborated on that more, rather than make it seem like it’s just a bunch of guys being douchbags.


Like the article says, the guy should stand out among the players, so too should a woman stand out among the other women tindering it up out there.

I don’t agree with her that a woman has to put off sex until he invests in her, because I think part of him wanting to invest involves the sex. So getting to know her personality and getting to know her sexually gives him a better idea of whether she is worthy of his investment. That’s what I think but I’m not a guy so let me know if that’s off.

 

[Epic Days]

I read it. It’s nothing out of the ordinary. Her sexual habits are written all over that.

While she has you waiting because “I’m worth it!”, or so she says, she’s getting her sex in the meantime from someone.

“I’ve been there, done that!” She’s telling the truth. She’s had more than her share of fun (sex). She’s well into the double digits (50+) and possibly beyond.

“Im looking for more!” Gives away where she’s at in life. She wants off the carousel but she’s not actually getting off until Mr. Gullible shows up.

Her quote:
“I’ve been burned in the past when I trusted that feelings were genuine, only to be completely humiliated and hurt when they weren’t and got dismissed like I was nothing.”

Smoke screen. The big dogs get away. She is responsible for the men she sleeps with. Women are master manipulators and socially brilliant. She knows the game and tried to make a hybrid. A masculine/feminine cuck. They wouldn’t have it.

Anytime a woman hasn’t consolidated from 16-25, she falls into this exact frame. In reality she has no power. She is a slave to her drives.

Here’s what I don’t like about these articles;
The woman always presents it as she is the selector and powerful one. A social paradigm quasi authoritarian. She’s a girl who’s been getting her fvcks. That’s all. Nothing special. As if she’s special and somehow unique when in fact she’s pretty predictable as a female and human being.

 

[Robert28]

Honestly, she sounds like someone who got burned before, learned her mistakes, and now has decided to have better judgment and values and developed boundaries so that she can better her chances of having the kind of relationship she wants with men.

Which, if you switch genders, is literally no different than what 95.5% percent of the guys on this site are trying to do after their own bad experiences.

The reality is that both people need to earn it. If she wants his emotional investment, she needs to earn that. Some women think that just giving him sex will lead to his emotional investment and that’s not true, which is blatantly evident from many of the posts on this site. The pump and dump thing goes two ways, it’s not always the guys fault, IMO. And I think the article should have elaborated on that more, rather than make it seem like it’s just a bunch of guys being douchbags.


Like the article says, the guy should stand out among the players, so too should a woman stand out among the other women tindering it up out there.

I don’t agree with her that a woman has to put off sex until he invests in her, because I think part of him wanting to invest involves the sex. So getting to know her personality and getting to know her sexually gives him a better idea of whether she is worthy of his investment. That’s what I think but I’m not a guy so let me know if that’s off.

As a guy I read that and think “boy you could get friend zoned by her easily and end up wasting a couple months of putting in time with her. All wasted.” Not to mention I would feel devalued as she’s making me wait for sex but she didn’t make other guys wait. That tells me I’m not good enough for her even though she thinks she’s doing me and herself a favor. If she told me all this I would be very turned off and probably ghost her.

 

[Epic Days]

As a guy I read that and think “boy you could get friend zoned by her easily and end up wasting a couple months of putting in time with her. All wasted.” Not to mention I would feel devalued as she’s making me wait for sex but she didn’t make other guys wait. That tells me I’m not good enough for her even though she thinks she’s doing me and herself a favor. If she told me all this I would be very turned off and probably ghost her.

That woman in the article is full of sh!t. Lol
That was a standard well crafted modern feminine imperative mindset. It’s not even hers. She quoting the standard bullish!t string of words.

It was written more for her and her self edification. Every single word was about her. Her solipsism is rampant. She can’t see anything but what she thinks she deserves.

 

[Spaz]

Women are master manipulators and socially brilliant. She knows the game and tried to make a hybrid.

That sentence alone places you on a whole different level of intelligence.

U r now standing apart of the feminine imperative, peering in.

You will see what I see now, through the looking glass.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Look at her bio:

Andrea is a Thirty-Something freelance writer living in the suburbs of Vancouver, Canada with her ridiculous ginger tabby, Jagger. She first discovered her passion for writing at the age of 10 when she began filling notebooks with poetry. She's a cliche lover of wine, sushi, all things Parisian and spiking her coffee with Baileys.

She's past her prime, not a lot of guys who are looking for relationships want her, so she flips it around and makes it sound like her noble choice.

Kind of like red pill mgtow types...

 

[AttackFormation]

I don’t agree with her that a woman has to put off sex until he invests in her, because I think part of him wanting to invest involves the sex. So getting to know her personality and getting to know her sexually gives him a better idea of whether she is worthy of his investment. That’s what I think but I’m not a guy so let me know if that’s off.

I go with the standard I think she has used for other guys.

I wouldn't mind waiting if I thought that's the way she has done it with other guys, that'd be just fine. I don't care about her being chaste in itself. But the problem is that she was just fine with quickly having trains run on her, sucking d!ck, fvcking with guys when she was "having fun" and "exploring", and it's only now that she's decided to be "serious" that she's applying this standard - to you, but not the other men. That'd work great if life was like a single player video game where you can just re-configure your settings willy nilly depending on what you want. Unfortunately, in the real world there's another real person involved with their own feelings, and no man with self-respect would accept being treated to a worse standard than the men she chose to treat differently in her past. Women know this which is why they try to lie about their past. In turn, we (who aren't blue pilled) respond to that by assuming by default that she's applying a double standard to us and that if she won't have sex with us that she doesn't respect us.

Those are my thoughts as a guy.

 

[SoSuave666]

She admitted to riding the **** carousel. She is the embodiment of what we talk about on this site. A past her prime party girl who’s looking for a white knight beta to settle down with and provide for her. Mid 30s, miles of d1ck, and a more entitled mindset than ever. No thanks.

 

[AJ84]

I go with the standard I think she has used for other guys.

I wouldn't mind waiting if I thought that's the way she has done it with other guys, that'd be just fine. I don't care about her being chaste in itself. But the problem is that she was just fine with quickly having trains run on her, sucking d!ck, fvcking with guys when she was "having fun" and "exploring", and it's only now that she's decided to be "serious" that she's applying this standard - to you, but not the other men. That'd work great if life was like a single player video game where you can just re-configure your settings willy nilly depending on what you want. Unfortunately, in the real world there's another real person involved with their own feelings, and no man with self-respect would accept being treated to a worse standard than the men she chose to treat differently in her past. Women know this which is why they try to lie about their past. In turn, we (who aren't blue pilled) respond to that by assuming by default that she's applying a double standard to us and that if she won't have sex with us that she doesn't respect us.

Those are my thoughts as a guy.

I can totally understand why you would think that. Robert said the same thing.

It makes sense, actually. Good points.

Thanks for that perspective.

 

[SeekerOfTheWay]

I don’t get why sex is put on a pedestal. I prefer having sex the first meeting if there is an attraction. To be honest, I am kind of horrible with new sex partners the first few times anyway because they are new to me. I have some go-to generic moves but I don’t know their bodies or likes and fetishes yet. One of my current plates was so shy sexually (I am not aggressive at all, I am submissive but i am NOT shy) that he said he was nervous and intimidated by me. So we didn’t have sex the first 4-6 dates. It got so awkward that I starter to wonder if he had some sexual issue he wasn’t telling me about. I finally discussed it with him, told him to relax and that i wouldn’t judge him and that I am terrible at sex in general anyway (just to lighten the mood). But man did he ever get awkward and shy. He would say he didn’t want it to ruin our relationship. He asked if he could kiss me and touch etc. Maybe other women find that charming but it turns me way off. If i am giving the “come aboard Captain” signals, a man needs to take charge and lay it down hard.

We had sex eventually and it was fine for a first time. He said he was “so nervous “ the next day if i would act differently or lose interest. I didn’t because of the sex, but the whole putting sex and me in a pedestal is making me iffy with him now.

 

[AJ84]

Ok, so what does it mean when a guy invests in a girl, she burns him and he decides that in the future he’s just going to use girls for sex? The girl he treats that way, knowing that he treated other girls better in the past, what should she think of that?

 

[SoSuave666]

Ok, so what does it mean when a guy invests in a girl, she burns him and he decides that in the future he’s just going to use girls for sex? The girl he treats that way, knowing that he treated other girls better in the past, what should she think of that?

First off, who cares what she thinks.

Second off you’ve answered your own question. If woman burns man for being too nice and then he transitions himself and does not act nice, how will future women treat him?

 

[Robert28]

I don’t get why sex is put on a pedestal. I prefer having sex the first meeting if there is an attraction. To be honest, I am kind of horrible with new sex partners the first few times anyway because they are new to me. I have some go-to generic moves but I don’t know their bodies or likes and fetishes yet. One of my current plates was so shy sexually (I am not aggressive at all, I am submissive but i am NOT shy) that he said he was nervous and intimidated by me. So we didn’t have sex the first 4-6 dates. It got so awkward that I starter to wonder if he had some sexual issue he wasn’t telling me about. I finally discussed it with him, told him to relax and that i wouldn’t judge him and that I am terrible at sex in general anyway (just to lighten the mood). But man did he ever get awkward and shy. He would say he didn’t want it to ruin our relationship. He asked if he could kiss me and touch etc. Maybe other women find that charming but it turns me way off. If i am giving the “come aboard Captain” signals, a man needs to take charge and lay it down hard.

We had sex eventually and it was fine for a first time. He said he was “so nervous “ the next day if i would act differently or lose interest. I didn’t because of the sex, but the whole putting sex and me in a pedestal is making me iffy with him now.

It’s not that I put sex on a pedestal, but I’m not going to waste my precious time on women that don’t find me sexually attractive but yet won’t leave me alone and insist we hangout and act “relationshipy”. They friend zone me and then start sending all these sexual signals to me but what they don’t realize is I mentally checked out on them when they used the “f” word on me. They become sexually interested in me eventually because I handle the friendzone differently than 99% of guys and they re-think their decision. It’s too late then though, they already labeled me and missed the boat on me. One chance, per lifetime, per girl.

 

[Robert28]

Ok, so what does it mean when a guy invests in a girl, she burns him and he decides that in the future he’s just going to use girls for sex? The girl he treats that way, knowing that he treated other girls better in the past, what should she think of that?

You mean the same way women make future men pay for all the sins their ex’s committed? I had a girl tell me she couldn’t date me because I had the same name as her ex. She’s still single and miserable judging by her postings on Facebook.lol

 

[AJ84]

First off, who cares what she thinks.

Second off you’ve answered your own question. If woman burns man for being too nice and then he transitions himself and does not act nice, how will future women treat him?

So on that logic, who cares what he thinks. If a man burns a woman for putting out and then she transitions herself and makes the next guy wait for sex, how will future men treat her?

I’m sure most guys don’t want to wait until she is sure he’s all in before having sex with him, and I’m sure most girls don’t want to be used for sex.

 

[AJ84]

You mean the same way women make future men pay for all the sins their ex’s committed? I had a girl tell me she couldn’t date me because I had the same name as her ex. She’s still single and miserable judging by her postings on Facebook.lol

Yes. Like that.
And wow, that’s crazy that she would not date you just because you had the same name as her ex.

 

[Trump]

I don’t get why sex is put on a pedestal. I prefer having sex the first meeting if there is an attraction.

He asked if he could kiss me and touch etc. Maybe other women find that charming but it turns me way off. If i am giving the “come aboard Captain” signals, a man needs to take charge and lay it down hard.

Did you feel the same way when you were 19?