Men *created* practically everything - why then do girls give us NO credit?

[SXS]

Cool what kind of engineering?

I really can't say that physics is more difficult but I could say that it makes me want to bang my head across the wall until I pass out.

Engineering of information. It involves telecomunications, computer networks, eletronics and everything in between those areas.

And Physics is certainly way harder. I once tried to take a class of Classical mechanics, and the math is so hard that I almost had a crisis of nerves at the time. The class had inicially had 3 guys, me anr more two, one of them droped out in the middle, while me and the other guy were reproved.

 

[Tazman]

Not so much secretive, as desire NOT to get punched. These discussions often are rants of "Men is good! Girl is bad!" any other opinions are met with venom. It's like walking up to a group of deer hunters and saying "Hi! I'm from the Save-the-Bambi Society!"

Yet, they can't stay away... The site allows anyone to post, but it's pretty obvious it's a predominantly male oriented site, so why do these women continue to chime in? Well, I have my opinions on why they post, but I guess in the end it really doesn't matter.

 

[iqqi]

Hows your love life going IqqI?

Getting tired of all the mush yet?

What once was great is now even better, as it gets by the day. Thanks for asking!

What you call "mush", I call ability to communicate, lack of bitterness and fear, and the ability to be happy and make another happy.

I wish the same to you!

 

[Trader]

Women believe that they do not have to create anything practical because they have the power to create a new life

WHy should woman actually bother to "create" anything when they already have all that going on?

Men create life. And then slyly pawn it off on her to carry around. I impregnate HER. My genes are also the ones that decide even the gender of the new human so i create both new men and new women. She is just the incubator of the seed that I plant in her dirt of a womb.

When I plant a seed in the dirt, I do not say the dirt created the plant. The dirt just housed it and provided nutrients. *I* grew the baby just like we'd say the farmer who planted the corn grew the corn.

Except with women, the nutrients they provide to babies comes from food that men created and water that men cleaned so they don't even bother to do any basic function but to act as a transport system.

Objectively speaking, I believe that it takes two to tango, to create and raise a child. I do see where you are coming from when you say 'Men create life' - but I think we all agree, that both parties are needed.

But I think Jophil is onto something. Subjectively, girls believe that they are doing something very special by doing their part in *creating* life, that it *makes up* for everything us guys create and all the hard work we do. Recently in a group setting, I talked to a wife who just had a baby and she started saying how: 'If men had to give birth, there is no way they could handle the pain. Only us girls can do it.'

Of course, her husband dared not say anything.

There were 3 other guys just sitting there not daring to say anything.

No way I was going to let her get away with that, so I told her: 'If you're talking about the *physical* act of childbirth, and handling pure physical pain, us guys can easily do it. If you girls can handle that pain, please, us guys can damn well handle that pain as well, let's keep it real.'

And she's like: 'No way, you guys wouldn't survive one second.'

I was like: 'Weren't you so worried about how painful childbirth was going to be, that you were almost going to use an epidural (painkiller used during delivery) Us guys can man-up and do it without a painkiller.'

That shut her up for a while.

What's funny about this whole situation is that the husband is so unappreciated by her. She wants to feel appreciated for giving birth and raising a child - fair enough. But the husband just gets his balls cut off all the time - totally unappreciated

One time in a group setting, like 10 of us were hanging out, playing poker, and he lost like 3 pots in a row and the wife started to bust his balls right in front of all of us. 'You should have called the bet, what are you doing? You just lost again, blah blah' And that tone of voice - I will always remember. It was like that of pure disgust, disdain and disrespectfulness. He didn't even dare say anything, I had to jump in and say: 'Respect your husband.' That shut her up for a while

 

[TesuqueRed]

Quoting Nietzsche here?

Nietzsche's pretty weak, you've gotta admit.

Men use what they've got without apology, and women use what they've got without apology. That's the jungle. You can either hang in the jungle, or you can't.

Nietzsche talked tough, but I have doubts about him.

Women verbally bash men, men verbally bash women --- that's how you can tell one or the other isn't ready for prime time. Women play for keeps, and so do men. They know our game, and we know their game. If it throws you off (and quoting quoting Nietzsche suggests it does...) you still have more time in triple-A ball before you're ready for the big leagues.

Here's the thing -- you've had women come onto you who were "beneath" you. You blew them off, you made no play, and they felt like shyt.

You come onto women who blow you off in the same way, and you feel like shyt. It sucks, just like it did for the women that came onto you that you blew off.

The fun starts when you analyze what turned you off about them, and what turned off the ones who blew you off, too.

That's perspective. That's where learning takes place -- no Uberman-shyt-and-wimmin-are-the-sport-of-warriors crap. Forget Nietzsche and that philosophical crap. Philosophy is intriguing, but often it blinds you to what's in front of you.

Here's to Nietzsche! :moon:

 

[Trader]

That's perspective. That's where learning takes place -- no Uberman-shyt-and-wimmin-are-the-sport-of-warriors crap. Forget Nietzsche and that philosophical crap. Philosophy is intriguing, but often it blinds you to what's in front of you.

Here's to Nietzsche! :moon:

Do you even understand what the Nietzsche quote means?

What Nietzsche meant was that men are the warriors - men are created to dominate nature, to *achieve* something in life. A man is not meant to devote his entire life to sensual pleasures and women. He indulges in sex no doubt, but he does NOT make sex his goal, girls are simply a form of relaxation for him.

This is very practical.

Your arrogance comes from the fact that you assume that anything related to philosophy is not practical. But I will let you keep on talking and dig your own grave.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Trader, I read the guy before you were born. But that doesn't mean jack, as you will be quick to point out.

Men are warriors, women are from Venus, Atlas Shrugged etc etc etc. It's substituting myth in front of experience, which is far more complex. Yes, I read the guy back in the day and was temporarily impressed, but then not so much.

And I enjoy reading philosophy BTW, just that it is weaally weally impressive in your teens and 20s, but less so once you put in 20 years + on your own. It's still invaluable -- don't get me wrong -- but later you see it from the perspective of what one 40 or 60 yr old says from another (when these guys wrote it all down...)

Do I understand? Sure. It's not that tricky. I'm just not that impressed anymore.

Count me arrogant? Ok. Guilty there.

Anyway, evolutionary biology is far more illuminating than Nietzsche is, but both are worth the read.

 

[Nutz]

Getting back to the original point of this thread, I strongly recommend reading The War On Boys by Christina Hoff Sommers. It sheds light on what's going on with our society and how feminism nutjobs are basically driving social policy into the ground.

 

[SXS]

What Nietzsche meant was that men are the warriors - men are created to dominate nature, to *achieve* something in life. A man is not meant to devote his entire life to sensual pleasures and women. He indulges in sex no doubt, but he does NOT make sex his goal, girls are simply a form of relaxation for him.

I think that when "men" is used in that context, would be better if changed by human, no simply to the gender.