Meeting up with EX tomorrow after over a year - Advice needed as im already in another relationship.

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

1) It is a fallacy that women leave due to cheating. Women do not leave over cheating. Women leave if you embarrass them (make them look bad). It is ego driven. That means it went public, you fvcked one of her friends, gave her an STD, or had a baby on the side.

Women do not dump an otherwise secure relationship unless they have a suitable replacement lined up. “Monkey branching.” It is biologically dangerous for them to do so. That’s why you always find broads sticking with their cheating ass boyfriends.

This is insane lol. If you cheat on your GF she is going to leave you dude unless she is relying on you for rent money/food.

2) Losing a woman =/= losing everything. If a guy can’t make it without his girl, he shouldn’t fvck around. Overall, this makes him less attractive. Women only want guys that can fvck around on them.

I'm not even talking about the girl mainly. When I was with my ex, I was always in a shvtty mood, I gained weight, and it was overall a terrible experience. She reached back to me to try and have sex and my dvck said yes, but my brain overrided it. In sales, so my mood and energy corrolate with my job performance, so risking putting that bvtch back in my life could've greatly affected my job performance. In essence, it's not just about losing your current gf, it is valuing your stability & sanity. She is an ex for a reason, do not regress your current life for some rotten pvssy that you have already had.

Girls want a guy that has the ability to fvck around but chooses them. If you have to cheat on your wife/GF to show this then you are just a clown lol. There's plenty of ways you can showcase this without actually cheating.

 

[EyeBRollin]

This is insane lol. If you cheat on your GF she is going to leave you dude unless she is relying on you for rent money/food.

You are really blue pill my friend. I can tell you never cheated before.

Girls want a guy that has the ability to fvck around but chooses them. If you have to cheat on your wife/GF to show this then you are just a clown lol.

It has nothing to do with “showing” anything.

Women are devoid of morality when it comes to mating. The sooner men realize this, the more successful they become with handling women. Women want their needs met, and to have their “value” (I.e. reputation)preserved. Morality has no meaning in any of it. That’s why females will fvck married men, fvck their bosses, and stay with their cheating boyfriends.

If OP just wants to bang his ex, it really has nothing to do with his current relationship.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You are really blue pill my friend. I can tell you never cheated before.

I've cheated on every GF except for the one I am currently with.

It has nothing to do with “showing” anything.

Women are devoid of morality when it comes to mating. The sooner men realize this, the more successful they become with handling women. Women want their needs met, and to have their “value” (I.e. reputation)preserved. Morality has no meaning in any of it. That’s why females will fvck married men, fvck their bosses, and stay with their cheating boyfriends.

If OP just wants to bang his ex, it really has nothing to do with his current relationship.

Not every female does this lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

I've cheated on every GF except for the one I am currently with.

And you always got caught?

 

[EyeBRollin]

My dad was a high status successful attorney who provided a very cushy lifestyle for my mom in an upscale high status neighborhood in Westchester County, NY.

He cheated on for years!

Her response? To try harder to be a better wife. I recall thinking it was rather pathetic but whatever, it was what it was and don't think things have changed much tbh.

Unfortunately, mom’s options were:

1) divorce him and then go back out into the world trying to find another high status successful professional at the same level

2) divorce him and then settle for a lesser man/lifestyle

3) Accept the cheating

 

[BackInTheGame78]

And you always got caught?

Dude must be the worst cheater of all time then. I mean it's not that hard to not get caught even when you are doing it regularly. You have to be really really sloppy with things unless you are around people that know you.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Dude must be the worst cheater of all time then. I mean it's not that hard to not get caught even when you are doing it regularly. You have to be really really sloppy with things unless you are around people that know you.

Exactly. There’s this weird assumption that when OP bangs his ex, his current girlfriend is gone.

Worst case scenario is the ex girlfriend somehow contacts his current girlfriend and shows proof. That’s hard to do, but these weirdos out here do dumb shvt like make sex tapes.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

And you always got caught?

no, I told my first gf I cheated and she broke up with me…for a few months lol. Never got caught in the other ones other than a hair strand scare

 

[CyrusTheGreat]

no, I told my first gf I cheated and she broke up with me…for a few months lol. Never got caught in the other ones other than a hair strand scare

My bet is that she already saw you as a looser. Women don't tolerate cheating loosers, but they would do everything for a worthy man with options.

 

[Barrister]

Dude must be the worst cheater of all time then. I mean it's not that hard to not get caught even when you are doing it regularly. You have to be really really sloppy with things unless you are around people that know you.

I think cheating on the regular gets fairly difficult without getting caught over the course of time. Isolated incidents like on a business trip are obviously easy - but if you are seeing the same mistress regularly, even if neither of you outright tell anyone what is going on, it can get pretty difficult to completely hide it. All it takes is for someone to spot the two of you out somewhere and start talking and soon the rumors are flying and it gets back. Easy to avoid over days/weeks. More difficult if it is months/years.

I am probably in a minority, but I personally have never understood cheating. If I am at that point where I want to cheat on my LTR, makes more sense just to end it and have complete freedom to pursue other pvssy. Less drama altogether.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

My bet is that she already saw you as a looser. Women don't tolerate cheating loosers, but they would do everything for a worthy man with options.

then why did we get back together and date for 4 more years? This Worthy man with options is just a cope at this point.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I am probably in a minority, but I personally have never understood cheating. If I am at that point where I want to cheat on my LTR, makes more sense just to end it and have complete freedom to pursue other pvssy. Less drama altogether.

LTR comes with benefits that you don’t get while being single. Biologically, it’s normal to want variety of different poon. Cheating satisfies both conditions.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Warning: Long post ahead, mostly a vent but relevant to the thread.

I agree with you @BeExcellent, the problem is 95% of women in today's dating market are insecure! So that's pretty much who guys, on this forum and off, are meeting.

I'm on another forum, mostly female, and certain behaviors (i.e cheating, flaking, being treated like a "plate") many women tolerate and accept shock me. Literally shock me.

And the guys here are absolutely right, despite their (women's) complaints, it appears on some weird level, it increases their interest and keeps them around.

Even to the point of obsession!

While the 'nicer" guys who treat them well and are faithful get tossed aside.

There were a few threads on the other forum just within the past couple of weeks created by women who dumped their "awesome" long time boyfriends for bad boy "players" who were sexy and hot but offered them nothing but great "chemistry" and hot sex.

The women claimed the chemistry was so intense,, they couldn't help themselves.

One woman dumped her boyfriend of FIVE years and to whom she was engaged for such a bad boy.

No job, lived with his sister, but hot and sexy who got her juices flowing like her so called "awesome loving" fiance never could.

Time to get real here, "worthwhile" "quality" women - women with strong values, integrity, and most of all the strength to walk away when treated badly - are a rarity these days from what I'm witnessing.

I'm NOT blaming the guys (like many women do), they're doing what works! What women are showing them through their actions and responses works.

It took me awhile to understand this, but generally speaking, I agree with men to NOT listen to what women say they want, but rather pay attention to what they actually respond to.

Often times (not always), those are two entirely different things.

Again, generally speaking, there are always exceptions.

its unfortunate that you turned your pm’s off. That would have been an interesting website to look at

 

[member160292]

Once you understand that women are driven by emotions, it is so much easier to attract them. One of my plates found makeup in the bathroom, asking how much Tequila I'm drinking, why the bed pillows have a different order, new songs on my playlist, etc.

Drives her NUTS - she's trying super hard to pleasure me and go out of her way to do things. Let a woman's mind wonder and the rest takes care of themselves.

 

[Barrister]

LTR comes with benefits that you don’t get while being single. Biologically, it’s normal to want variety of different poon. Cheating satisfies both conditions.

I understand that to a degree. You get your cake and to eat it too. However, for me personally, I try to keep my public rep sterling. If you are caught, a "cheater" is a difficult image to shake. And it can have impacts in not just the dating world. So I steer clear. The benefits don't outweigh the risks to me.

Again. if I am at that point where I simply need different pvssy, I just move on.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I understand that to a degree. You get your cake and to eat it too. However, for me personally, I try to keep my public rep sterling. If you are caught, a "cheater" is a difficult image to shake.

Women like “cheaters.” They talk shvt about them then privately go sleep with these guys.

Look at Derrick Jaxn.

 

[Gamisch]

I understand that to a degree. You get your cake and to eat it too. However, for me personally, I try to keep my public rep sterling. If you are caught, a "cheater" is a difficult image to shake. And it can have impacts in not just the dating world. So I steer clear. The benefits don't outweigh the risks to me.

Again. if I am at that point where I simply need different pvssy, I just move on.

That's the right thing to do. Unfortunately most men, and especially most women dont operate like that's. Lets not forget ,there are not many things that can replace the tension and excitement that comes along with cheating.

My bet is that she already saw you as a looser. Women don't tolerate cheating loosers, but they would do everything for a worthy man with options.

I believe our good friend Pan said something about players and hot women "understanding each other ". A player might cheat on his gf, but yet connect to her on such a level he'll convince her to stay (if he wants ).

I cant find it but I saw a Tiktok clip with a woman saying she WANTS her bf to cheat. She needs to chase him and needs the uncertainty.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Women like “cheaters.” They talk shvt about them then privately go sleep with these guys.

Look at Derrick Jaxn.

Why are you dealing in absolutes?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Why are you dealing in absolutes?

Generalizations are not absolutes.

“Women like cheaters” =/= “Every woman likes cheaters.”

 

[Bokanovsky]

There were a few threads on the other forum just within the past couple of weeks created by women who dumped their "awesome" long time boyfriends for bad boy "players" who were sexy and hot but offered them nothing but great "chemistry" and hot sex.

I don't know why you find this surprising. Women are creatures of emotion. They will always pick something that feels good over something that is objectively good. The only time when a woman would not chose chemistry over objective positive qualities is when her survival instinct kicks in. If a woman knows that by choosing a "bad boy" she will end up on the street, she might go for the boring provider type. However, if a woman has some degree of financial independence, it's feelz over pragmatism 99% of the time.