Maybe race and height actually matter

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At least that's what this guy believed. He believed it so much that he killed himself. He left a suicide note and this isn't your typical suicide note asking for pity. He was very level headed and methodical.

As a vertically challenged man of Chinese descent, he outlined what he believed to be certain factors that worked against him in the dating game.

He made several other points that are better off being read by yourself. You can find his suicide note here: https://wilkes888.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/my-final-blog-entry-love-you-all/

The note felt very surreal and a bit damning. I tend to give flak to people that like to moan about how their race or height affects their dating prospects but maybe I just never gave it too much thought because I didn't want to change my own preconceived notions?

I don't know. It's almost 2am so maybe I'm just sleepy. What do you guys think?
 

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The final part of his note:

My name is Wilkes McDermid. To the surprise of many of you, I am exactly 37 years, 6 months and 25 days old at the time of publishing this entry on 05-Jan-2013… and this will be my last blog update.

I have decided to end my life. To all of you who have asked “When are you coming back from Cape Town”, the answer is never. I came to one of the most beautiful cities in the world to die. I had no intention of coming back to the UK.

This was supposed to happen on the 26th Dec, however the strong South Easterly Winds known locally as the “Cape Doctor”, heavy tourist demand for the cable car at Table Mountain, plus the foggy weather conditions of “The Table Cloth” all conspired against me for nearly 10 days.

The reasons for my decision are well known to some of you. I have found that in the dating/relationship game the key criteria are generally “height” ,”race” and “wealth/power”. Specially, above 5ft10, Caucasian/Black or with wealth/power able to compensate for a lack of the other two criteria.

Ladies, before you criticise me, think about your own situation. How many of you have husbands/boyfriends who fit the 5ft10+ Caucasian/Black criteria? Before you say “That’s just me”, think about your friends and who they are dating. Some of you will find one exception and are now saying that I’m wrong. That exception is one… out of how many?

>Finally, it is amazing to me that the people who are most adamant that I am wrong typically tend to be the ones who fit these rules perfectly.

I always remember someone who was fairly angry at my 5ft10 tall, Caucasian/Black and wealth findings. Interestingly, she was dating a 6ft tall Caucasian South African. When I pointed this out her response was…

“Well, he may be 6ft tall and white but that’s the best I’ve ever had… But I did date a short poor black bouncer once, he had nothing going for him”

I asked why… her response was

“I was desperate… and didn’t want to be alone”

You may think of this as a suicide, but for me it is ‘euthanasia’. The etymology, origin of the word, is ‘merciful killing’. I can either continue to live a life of suffering and listening to those around my lie, (intentionally or unintentionally)… or to be merciful and end the suffering. For me logical choice is obvious.

To the ladies out there, I want to be clear, I am not angry at you. You are just doing what you are genetically programmed to do. (If you don’t believe me do your own research, there are many papers out there which agree with my findings). However, what I am angry about is the continual stream of people who are trying to lie to me. That is unacceptable.

I don’t want anyone to be sad for me. Knowing when you are going to die allows you to plan; it allows a freedom which many people never have.

Think about this, how many people work day after day striving for a retirement which never comes, cut short by a heart attack or a road accident?

I have spent the last 10 months of my life visiting to the best venues, trying the best food, drinking the best ****tails and enjoying London to the full. Think of this as my retirement.

To all the bartenders out there, keep on making those awesome ****tails, London is truly one of the best drinks hubs of the world. It’s been fantastic to be in the centre of it all.

To all the restaurateurs and street-food vendors I have met, I salute you. It takes a lot of courage, determination and commitment to open your own business. It has been an honour to have met you all.

Many thanks to all for making the last 10 months of my life more bearable. Thank you all and I wish you all the best.

Peace and love to you all.
 

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I think we need to stop kicking a dead horse and acknowledge that LOOKS MATTER. No amount of game can get you into a girl's pants if you don't even pass her looks test (i.e triggering raw attraction).

It is no doubt as a vertically challenged and Oriental male, he would have problems triggering basic attraction in women where the norm was a 5 ft 10, white/black dude. I'd bet if he went to China, he'd probably have more success there.

Of course, there's probably more problems that turn women off when they see him given the mindset he was harboring. Not good looking enough - weak body language - submissive vibe. Ultimately, the reality is the more physically appealing you are, the more leeway you are given to fvck up before women write you off.

There is no doubt that the dude got the short end of the stick not because he was physically disadvantaged, but rather he was in the wrong pool of dating to begin with.

Ask yourselves, how many of you will actually want to date an Indian girl?
 

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I remember that. Another self hating NOWAG tops himself because he didn't get his share of the prized white puzzy promised to him by the digital synagogue.

At least this time he didn't take out his frustration and rage by murdering a bunch of innocent white Europeans like those other atomized sh!tlib experiments. Expect A LOT more of this btw.
 

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Konada said:
I'd bet if he went to China, he'd probably have more success there.
YES.

Location, location, location applies to the dating world too. If you struggle in one city (and landing a girl is a high priority for you too), move to another city where either you will be perceived as rare and exotic, or "your kind" is more commonly accepted.

A few years ago at a Korean restaurant, I remember overhearing a rather average looking Asian guy somewhere between his late 20s/early 30s telling his friend that he thought he'd been swimming in pvssy down here in Miami, but the reality had turned out much different - he never thought it would be so incredibly difficult to get himself a girl down here. I've lived here my whole life, so this wasn't a shock to me at all.

Miami is not Cancun nor Ibiza. With few exceptions, you don't just come down here and clean house. The "natives" themselves tend to be predominately closed off even to other natives. A reluctant and guarded "do I know you?" is a very common initial reaction to an approach from an unfamiliar face in these parts. It's gotten a little better over the last couple of years with an increasing influx of transplants, but overall, it's a pretty tough, status-driven crowd. Someone like that guy has the odds incredibly stacked against him from the onset. If I were to have given that guy my two cents, I would have told him to either work hard on improving himself while trying to break into a social circle comprised mostly or entirely of other transplants, or simply get the fvck out of here. Some destinations are a poor fit for some - there just isn't a nice way to put it.
 

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I don't understand why people don't even try the hardest and keep b**ching about how miserable their lives are, but killing yourself just because you couldn't get a girlfriend? This guy took bullsh*t to a whole new level. He could have at least died for something worth it, like fighting for your country, saving lives...
This world is fuc**d up, just when I thought I saw it all...
 

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I didn't read too in depth into this but to me, I found it insulting as it sounds like a guy who has externalised all his problems. Yes, acknowledge the world is not fair. A rich kid will go to a better school than a poor kid. But their is always one thing that will trump everything else and that is hard work.

If you put the work in, you reap the rewards. Sure your race and height may give you a disadvantage. Then why don't you work on your good traits - build a really good body, work on hobbies, climb the social ladder i.e. establish yourself in a good social network early. You go in with good intentions and no ulterior motive and normally I've found you get back tenfold what you give.

I'm not white. Nor am I tall or even attractive. Yet I have managed to cement myself into a good social network at uni. I've started to work on my body and now it is starting to really lean up and bulk up too. I have that personality that opens myself to the world and invites them in. I don't just talk to the popular kids but I flirt and interact with the nerds, the misfits, the homeless, the elderly you name it. Return a smile to me and I'm all ears curiously. As such, I don't want to sound arrogant but my presence is always well acknowledged.

Pulling woman, I've never really struggled to be honest. Looking back, I've punched up my weight a couple times. The other where things were more meaningful were dating chicks like me. My screw ups were but my way I went about things. Not physically or genetics. Heck, if I said the right things and didn't fluff around... And now that I'm starting to get my life right, not going AFC on woman and combine that with a decent body, I definately can feel the woman noticing.

I dunno. This post just irks me. Even if at the end of the day you can't pull a chick if your life depended on it, there is so much in the world you can do. Become the next saint and donate your time to making the world a better place. Travel the world and explore every little corner of it. Throw yourself into your career and accumulate expanse of wealth. The funny thing is when you start doing this, woman regardless of any race will start raising their eyebrows and noticing.
 

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I think it depends on how attractive you are. If you are attractive and are ethnic, you are perceived as exotic and will probably not be rebuffed based solely on your looks. If you are perceived as unattractive by women, and you also happen to be foreign, it will most likely not make your situation any better.

I would recommend working out.
 

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I bet this user quoted below never had any kind of emotional difficulty in his life. The conversation of the ignorant who has had life on the easy street.

The dude who topped himself is 37 years old, he is hardly like a spring chicken. He probably tried to help himself as much as he could but it didn't work out. I guess this is the harsh realities of life. All you can do is be greatful life is good to you.

Leaf said:
I didn't read too in depth into this but to me, I found it insulting as it sounds like a guy who has externalised all his problems. Yes, acknowledge the world is not fair. A rich kid will go to a better school than a poor kid. But their is always one thing that will trump everything else and that is hard work.

If you put the work in, you reap the rewards. Sure your race and height may give you a disadvantage. Then why don't you work on your good traits - build a really good body, work on hobbies, climb the social ladder i.e. establish yourself in a good social network early. You go in with good intentions and no ulterior motive and normally I've found you get back tenfold what you give.

I'm not white. Nor am I tall or even attractive. Yet I have managed to cement myself into a good social network at uni. I've started to work on my body and now it is starting to really lean up and bulk up too. I have that personality that opens myself to the world and invites them in. I don't just talk to the popular kids but I flirt and interact with the nerds, the misfits, the homeless, the elderly you name it. Return a smile to me and I'm all ears curiously. As such, I don't want to sound arrogant but my presence is always well acknowledged.

Pulling woman, I've never really struggled to be honest. Looking back, I've punched up my weight a couple times. The other where things were more meaningful were dating chicks like me. My screw ups were but my way I went about things. Not physically or genetics. Heck, if I said the right things and didn't fluff around... And now that I'm starting to get my life right, not going AFC on woman and combine that with a decent body, I definately can feel the woman noticing.

I dunno. This post just irks me. Even if at the end of the day you can't pull a chick if your life depended on it, there is so much in the world you can do. Become the next saint and donate your time to making the world a better place. Travel the world and explore every little corner of it. Throw yourself into your career and accumulate expanse of wealth. The funny thing is when you start doing this, woman regardless of any race will start raising their eyebrows and noticing.
 

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FearlessEngineer said:
I don't understand why people don't even try the hardest and keep b**ching about how miserable their lives are, but killing yourself just because you couldn't get a girlfriend? This guy took bullsh*t to a whole new level. He could have at least died for something worth it, like fighting for your country, saving lives...
This world is fuc**d up, just when I thought I saw it all...
Yeah topping yourself because you couldn't get a girl is too much. But on the other hand dying because you wanted to save lives, fighting for your country etc is taking things to another level as well. You are a bit of a idiot if you die because you wanted to help society and its masses.
 

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He was weak beta whiner.He wanted to fvck most probably hot blondes and be loved and disired by them.Not going to happen with the body he had, it frustrated him so he killed himself in drama queen fashion.

Instead ...

he should said fvck it all and get yourself cute philipina thai girl for whom he would be more acceptable.The guy wasnt awere what SMV is, and there are limits of SMV.
 

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His looks put him at an incredible disadvantage in a city like London. But he didn't go out and strategically put himself in a better position to get results in the dating world. Instead he stuck around in the wrong environment and ate himself to obesity, constantly comparing himself to the market prize and further devaluing himself, breaking down his self worth rather than setting himself up to build it.

I had a friend who lived in London, was Caucasian, 5'10 and had money but he was skinny, pale and physically looked pretty nerdy. He was also a somewhat introverted professor type and just didn't attract in this market. This had big ramifications for his self esteem and game which just makes it all worse. He didn't give up though. He went to live in South Korea where he is seen as a godly stud, his personality comes off as a charming British gent and he is swimming in pvssy.. Literally has a fan club and his current girlfriend is a straight up HB9 from a wealthy family. I saw him a couple months back and the aura of confidence he now projects is like night and day.. He is even comfortable just chatting to girls at bars in London now because his game has naturally improved through abundance.

So my advice to Wiles McDermid would have been, lose the weight, workout, get a good haircut and then LEAVE London, travel the world and find a city where you are more accepted even if it's an Asian country. Stop being a short, fat, cuddly Chinese stereotype and become a azz kicking, ripped, cultured Chinese MAN who knows his demographic and slays it.

Focus on your own existence, comparison is disease... This is a game of life, your dealt your deck and the rules are how far you can get with what you're given.. Only compete with yourself. He very well could have carved a successful life... Imagine Wiles, successful Shanghai food critic, dating Chinese high society. But he chose delusion and death.
 

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LondonTowers said:
Focus on your own existence, comparison is disease... This is a game of life, your dealt your deck and the rules are how far you can get with what you're given.. Only compete with yourself. He very well could have carved a successful life... Imagine Wiles, successful Shanghai food critic, dating Chinese high society. But he chose delusion and death.
Repped - Thanks LT, needed a boost and this quote gave me that tingle down your spine inspiration much like when you see an athlete break the line and go the full run to score a winning point.
 

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Yes it does matter. Also, if an asian doesnt act like an afc than he is pretty much on par with most white guys. Same with alpha Hispanics. They have it easier than black guys. They dont have every statistic against them, so they can pull girls that black guys wouldn't have a chance with.
 

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LondonTowers said:
Focus on your own existence, comparison is disease... This is a game of life, your dealt your deck and the rules are how far you can get with what you're given.. Only compete with yourself. He very well could have carved a successful life... Imagine Wiles, successful Shanghai food critic, dating Chinese high society. But he chose delusion and death.
Its oldest trick ever - if your goods are in demand in your place - find the proper damn place ! I feel really sorry about this guy, where the fvck where his friends.

Let this be lesson for all these naive guys who think through 'game' can outgame their DNA.If because of some reasons you cant become competive - you must leave the market and find market with lower demands - where you are in demand.
 

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The whole height thing is blown way out of proportion. I would say 5'10 is a good height for most women but Ive seen some 5'9 guys with good faces pull mad women. Hate to break it to you but you can be 6'4 but if your average looking your going to be invisible to most attractive women. Face is probably the most important thing.
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
Let this be lesson for all these naive guys who think through 'game' can outgame their DNA.If because of some reasons you cant become competive - you must leave the market and find market with lower demands - where you are in demand.
Can you clarify what you mean by "competitive"?
 

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My own sister is marrying some goofy looking white dude who makes much less money than her. She had a lot of Indian dudes like her, but rejected all of them cause she "doesn't like Indian guys". Go figure.
 

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I don't get women either, but I deal with it like a real man with tons of substance abuse and Internet porn
 

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Dhoulmagus said:
Yes it does matter. Also, if an asian doesnt act like an afc than he is pretty much on par with most white guys. Same with alpha Hispanics. They have it easier than black guys. They dont have every statistic against them, so they can pull girls that black guys wouldn't have a chance with.
I saw black guys pulling some of the HOTTEST white girls when I was in Mexico. They want guys with big ****s man.! And many of the black guys are very in shape just look at pro athletes. You don't see that with Asian dudes, most are on their computer all the time.
 
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