Marijuana use and game

SeymourCake · Oct 29, 2019

gravityeyelids said:
You're posting what is essentially an emotion driven editorial piece, which reads like a lit review but without any actual sources cited posted, and purporting it as legitimate scientific research and statistics. This is hardly a legitimate scientific piece. If you're going to post something where the author "quotes" all these presumably scientific sources, he needs to at least cite the ****ing sources so that we can actually look at them and examine them critically for bias or inaccuracy. He's quoting other lit reviews and sources but basically never listing the ACTUAL research paper/study names or giving us any way to actually review the sources ourselves. He's also constantly mixing in things that ARENT supported by any research and are basically anecdotal and opinions, but basically playing them off a peer-reviewed research.

If you're going to try to make the point that "cannabis causes mental illness and violence " based on research, at least do it properly.

Bible_Belt · Oct 29, 2019

SeymourCake said:
Here are some studies you can look at.

Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

Weed Smokers Have More Violent Convictions:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26961342

Weed Causes Cancer:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4642772/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18238947

Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

Weed Is Addictive:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3606907/

Weed Causes Long Term Cognitive Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19630708
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2484906
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1463999/
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055821
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/47/16913.full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3593817/

Weed Causes Depression And Anxiety Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23795762
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14616175
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032500/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149055/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773900
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10750321
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122896
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166005#sec013

Weed Causes Psychotic Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007222
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352721/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/

Children of Fathers that Smoke Weed More Likely To Suffer Sudden Infant Death Syndrome:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434841

Weed Legalisation Results In More Frequent Use:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395914000206
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0143562

Weed Causes Lung Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16128224
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24384575
https://www.nature.com/articles/npjpcrm201671
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094297/
http://monaldi-archives.org/index.php/macd/article/view/645/633

Secondhand Weed Smoke Impairs Psychomotor Function And Working Memory:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747424/

Weed Worsens Symptoms Of Social Anxiety Disorder:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350824/

Weed Causes Deficits In Dopamine Release:
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v22/n1/full/mp201621a.html

Marijuana is a neruotoxin
http://www.sciencealert.com/cannabis-harms-the-brain-but-thats-not-the-full-story
www.jneurosci.org/content/18/14/5322.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24118193

Casual use alters the nucleus accumbans, associated with reward and pleasure
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/casual-marijuana-smoking-linked-to-brain-changes-041614

The brains of chronic users produce less dopamine
http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(13)00502-7/abstract

Marijuana lowers IQ
http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisb...tudy-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.abstract

Cannabis-impaired approximately doubles car crash risk and that around one in 10 regular cannabis users develop dependence. Regular cannabis use in adolescence approximately doubles the risks of early school-leaving and of cognitive impairment and psychoses in adulthood. Regular cannabis use in adolescence is also associated strongly with the use of other illicit drugs. These associations persist after controlling for plausible confounding variables in longitudinal studies.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12703/abstract

Marijuana induces schizophrenia-like brain changes, which may result in psychosis
http://psychcentral.com/lib/cannabis-may-cause-schizophrenia-like-brain-changes
http://www.livescience.com/17707-marijuana-thc-brain-psychosis.html
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270262.php

Marijuana can cause pulmonary disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25624312

Go to anywhere in the caribbean, and you will find lifelong smokers in their 60s and 70s. They don't have cancer, or man boobs, or psychosis, or anything else the government has tried to convince people that weed use causes. They gave up on most of those failed ideas to promote the "gateway theory," that weed isn't bad but it makes you do other drugs. Gateway theory has been debunked by now, too, unless you count the most recent idealogical zealots to take over the executive branch who are trying to revive it, science be damned.

SeymourCake · Oct 29, 2019

Bible_Belt said:
Go to anywhere in the caribbean, and you will find lifelong smokers in their 60s and 70s. They don't have cancer, or man boobs, or psychosis, or anything else the government has tried to convince people that weed use causes. They gave up on most of those failed ideas to promote the "gateway theory," that weed isn't bad but it makes you do other drugs. Gateway theory has been debunked by now, too, unless you count the most recent idealogical zealots to take over the executive branch who are trying to revive it, science be damned.

Leading Causes of Cancer Mortality — Caribbean Region, 2003–2013 | MMWR

The most common causes of cancer deaths among Caribbean population are prostate cancer and breast cancer.

www.cdc.gov

You don’t think they have psychosis because you think it’s their personality.

Weed is said to lower IQ. Check the average IQ in Jamaica and check the violent crime statistics while you’re at it.

Bible_Belt · Oct 30, 2019

SeymourCake said:
Leading Causes of Cancer Mortality — Caribbean Region, 2003–2013 | MMWR

The most common causes of cancer deaths among Caribbean population are prostate cancer and breast cancer.

www.cdc.gov

You don’t think they have psychosis because you think it’s their personality.

Weed is said to lower IQ. Check the average IQ in Jamaica and check the violent crime statistics while you’re at it.

Compare that to the average iq in Africa. And if you think smoking weed makes a person violent....that was the government's claim in the 1930s..reefer madness! The truth is the opposite. Try it and see for yourself.

SeymourCake · Oct 30, 2019

Bible_Belt said:
And if you think smoking weed makes a person violent....that was the government's claim in the 1930s..reefer madness! The truth is the opposite.

The state of Colorado legalized weed for recreational use in 2012 with Amendment 64 and violent crimes have been on a steady incline ever since.

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Bible_Belt · Oct 30, 2019

SeymourCake said:
The state of Colorado legalized weed for recreational use in 2012 with Amendment 64 and violent crimes have been on a steady incline ever since.

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Crime rate is a function of how many 18 to 22 y/o males exist within a given population. That's it, period. It has nothing at all to do with any government policy. Colorado legalized, and people fled there to avoid persecution by their own state's drug war, which included young men, thus the crime rate. You might as well cite rising housing costs as a reason to not legalize. When life gets better in one place than another, people move there.

Kotaix · Oct 30, 2019

I'm seeing a lot of bias here. I'm with redskinfan92 in that I don't become paranoid or anxious. I also have never gotten the munchies from it. I do get very dumb if I smoke a lot of it though, but it can make me more socially aware in smaller amounts, if I can keep my mind quiet

I don't touch edibles, I had a bad experience with it once, and that was it.

SeymourCake · Oct 30, 2019

Bible_Belt said:
Crime rate is a function of how many 18 to 22 y/o males exist within a given population. That's it, period. It has nothing at all to do with any government policy. Colorado legalized, and people fled there to avoid persecution by their own state's drug war, which included young men, thus the crime rate. You might as well cite rising housing costs as a reason to not legalize. When life gets better in one place than another, people move there.

Yes, going by your logic, life is a lot better in Californian cities and Seattle, both places where weed is legal for recreational use.
California legalized recreational use of weed in 2016
Washington state legalized recreational use of weed in 2012

And this is the result

Coincidence?

MrWood · Nov 5, 2019

35+ yrs smoking
smashing it with 20-36yo HB7+ (Im 53)
introduced 5 girls who never smoked, either they liked it or didnt... never killed the game

YMMV

djreez88 · Nov 5, 2019

I think it depends on the individual. Like how some people are natural when it comes to game. Me, it doesn't mess with my game unless I smoke myself stupid. Also depends on the strain, how strong, ect. Should we as djs depend on weed or drinks to up our game? I think as with anything moderation is the key.

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