Man lets do this now: Life experience: Bored and give me reasons to live on.

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Do you don Juan's get bored? I am bored ****less in life and the routine. I am all for actions and extremes. I am a gambler. Gambler without any money - that is the problem. I have found that the source of motivation comes from being devastated; every time I am in misery I feel a overflowing power to do anything that will make it go away. It includes hitting gym, hitting girls, doing everything 'good' in life. Otherwise I'm just wanderer. Whenever there is no misery, I'm just a wanderer; no motivation to do ****; bored.

I am all for adventures. I am seriously been contemplating robbing cash. Sent hundred of job applications, none answers. Bored of that routine. Bored of gym. I remember the devastating stage after my last break up: I was overpowered with misery, hatred, anguish. It was amazing. It felt like **** but it felt the best. I felt like i could have done anything and not a single **** was given that day. I feel like hate and misery is much more authentic than love. Love has turned into pretension. At least when you hate, you can actually hate someone authentically. Love has turned into pretension: love your mom, dad, sister, brother, friends, girlfriend, job, dreams, hobbies this and that. I don't feel a single love towards those things right now and still the popular belief is to love them. That is ****ed. What can you do when there is no love? I cannot force it to come; it is not under my control.

In my life I have done everything I could. I have went to the extremes of the extremes. I have felt the deepest misery of relationship and the deepest ecstasy, fought against the whole school teachers, principal, professors and won they had to kick me out of school, did this again in another school, fought against my parents and they couldn't do anything they had to give me total control of myself; i decided everything that is best for me now; they have zero control over my life decisions; just opinions are they allowed to give. My logic wins them all. What is left? And I am eighteen.

I am not going to wait 10 or 20 years to save money to do something useless. I am not for business at all. In fact I could argue against business all day. Business in its deepest ground is politic and politic means using something to get something better. And to step on another ones face for your ownself is not very humanly. It seems like arguing is my only joy now. Because it is the only authentic there left. When I argue I feel a deep authentic arising in me. And when i am being 'friendly' I feel it is just a pretension to get something.

I am eighteen.

Give me anything logically reasonable and I will do it. I simply have no single fear left in me that I could lose anything.
 
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Anything is welcome now. Bring it. This is your chance as a don juan to save a life.
 

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ludis said:
Got to be a troll.:kick:
Who are you? Please stop the troll trend. It will soon ruin this whole forum. It is not a troll. Ask any enlightened person and he will tell you that whenever one becomes enlightened of this rotten world, one will either commit suicide or create something so beautiful for this mother earth that no one could ever create.

All the great people of this humanity's history has either committed suicide or created something beautiful that no one could have created for this planet. Aristoteles, Platon, Socrates, Jesus, Buddha, Lao-Tzu, Mohammed, Mozart, Michael Jackson, Newton, Confucius, St. Paul, Einstein, Maxwell, Edison, Calvin,Marconi, you name it.

From now on, for all the attendees, please don't ask whetever this is a troll. It is not and please post only reasonable logical answers. This is a discussion over life and death.
 

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Yes well, Thomson, all those personalities you mentioned probably had one thing in common.

They found their reasons to live in themselves.

I seriously doubt you' re expecting from the people of this forum to hand you over reasons to live (no less!).

If this is not a cry for attention, it seems to me that you need to dig deeper and own your existence. Give it your own meaning. Be your own man.
 

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try muay thai or jiu jitsu
 

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ludis said:
Yes well, Thomson, all those personalities you mentioned probably had one thing in common.

They found their reasons to live in themselves.

I seriously doubt you' re expecting from the people of this forum to hand you over reasons to live (no less!).

If this is not a cry for attention, it seems to me that you need to dig deeper and own your existence. Give it your own meaning. Be your own man.
I have no single expectation. It is simply that the whole world has shut me down. This place seems to be the only place I can discuss. Until school starts this seems to be the only place for now. Even the curator in my school can't handle me. My parents don't understand me. Every teacher in my school doesn't understand me.

I don't know. But I do know from my experience that even an soldier ant can help his Queen. This forum is base on making people's life better and I think this is the perfect place to seek reasons to live for now. I can see some intelligent people here. My parents, my friends, my school, my social circle does not know a single thing about me and if I am to tell them, they will be in so big of a shock they cant handle me, they will run. Just think about it: if I tell my friends that I have no desire to live on, they will think I need therapy. If I say that I have no ambition, goals, desires, they will think I need help. This whole world is based on goals and ambitions. For your whole life you have been conditioned to aim for this and that; never be yourself. Always become this and that but whatever you are don't be happy about it; you can be happy only when you become the president of the country, when you become the minister, when you become Don Juan, when you get hundreds of girls chasing you, yippadi-yippadi-yaa.

And no. I am not seeking attention. I am seriously seeking reasons to live on. Unless there is joy to live, unless I feel that life is meaningful will I keep living on. Otherwise I don't see a point in living a empty, meaningless life, just wandering in a ghost-city.

All those people I mentioned seeked their reasons to live and struggled. Buddha seeked the reason to live for 12 years. He abandoned his kingdom. In fact he was to become the next king;he was a prince. And he abandoned the kingdom. He struggled for twelve years to find reasons to live. He went to every single master there was. India at that time, 25 centuries ago; 2500 years ago, India was the most rich country in the whole world. There were thousands of masters and teachers and Buddha went through them all untill the last one. The last master gave him his reason to live on. And since then he created a religion that is world-wide known still to this day after 2500 years.

I am looking for exciting ideas, reasons to live on. The more dangerous the better. Please share your ideas and help this lost person gain reasons to live on.
 
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lgbs2004 said:
Try porn!
Man I am amazed at the unmature people on this forum. And especially when he has been her for bunch a years. Are you sure you are 30 years old?

I have tried porn. Pornhub, myfreecam. It was great for a moment. But then it got boring. Black men, Asian girls, gang bangs, teens, adults, milfs, miles, mother****ers. I have watched them all and they have become so boring.
 

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Assuming you're not a troll... Find something you like and do it.
Get a hobby and be perseverent about. Do it especially when you don't feel like doing it.
 

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It is unfortunate that we tend to be driven by the negative more than the positive, like getting away from fear, and being really down... then all of a sudden we seem driven.

The thing i've found with that is learning to let go of those negative emotions while working on attaching stronger positive emotions to the thing you want to do helps.

My guess, which may or may not be true... did something happen recently to trigger this? Either an intensely negative situation (you mentioned an old breakup) or even something that triggered old memories? The way your subconscious works is we learn certain patterns, beliefs and dominant emotions early in our life and unless we go out of our way to work on them and transform them they keep getting triggered for our whole life.

I also predict you may have had traumatic experiences in the past that are making you feel like it. If you have several experiences from the past with a dominant emotion it tends to keep repeating.

If you go and rob something, it's just downhill from there. It won't fix anything but will just make you feel worse. If you can't get a job, what can you create for yourself? What skills or experiences do YOU have that you can help other people with.

What you're saying about business is simply your belief. And that means you are just going to find that. What if the issue wasn't that they are stepping on others, what if in fact business was exchanging one thing that people need and want that you have or can provide and get it exchanged in cash?

Anyway in this case, you said you would try anything. So if you are able to be open minded and do a little searching to find the information then I have a couple of things.

Emotional Freedom Technique - You can learn the basics online for free. It is based on chinese acupuncture and instead of needles you stimulate the points by using your fingertips. Basically you hold the emotion in mind and tap on the points and you feel it release. I realize it sounds stupid but what can you lose for trying, and what if it works?

Sedona Method - Another way of releasing. There is a fair bit of information around about it. But basically bring the negative emotion to mind. Allow yourself to just feel it without pushing it away, judging it or whatever.

Ask yourself "could I welcome this (emotion)"... "yes.." "and could I let it go".

If the answer is "no" then "could I just allow myself to hold onto it now". And then try "could I even just let 1% of this go".

If you want some resources on them and can't find in a search then send me a pm.
 

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Look at the list of famous men you posted.

There is a chance you will never accomplish anywhere near what they have accomplished. And I think this on some level scares you and makes you feel insignificant. Unless you feel the joy by becoming as grand as them, you do not feel good and do not see a reason to keep on living.

But one purpose of living is to find what makes you great, what makes you different, your contribution not only to yourself but to humanity. You may or may not become one of the great men recorded in history, I cannot tell, you cannot tell. But by seeking an end to your life, you are already accepting defeat before you even fight the battle that is your whole life.

Einstein was a nobody working in a patent office for many years in a dead end job. Jesus Christ did not even start preaching until he was 30 years old. St. Paul started late in life, Isaac Newton published his most important theories in his 30's and 40's.

Judging by the fact that you go to school I bet you are around 20 at the oldest. You live in an age where we live much longer than the previous men.

Look at the list of those you admire, what if they had killed themselves when they were young? What if they gave up on life and lived one of mediocrity? You want to have the feeling of being great and deriving joy from it, but you don't actually want to toil and earn it.

Isaac Newton died a virgin for studying science and math so diligently. Buddha gave up his rich life in order to teach his philosophy. St. Paul, Jesus Christ were each EXECUTED for preaching. You have the privilege of having the wisdom of all the world, of all history in your fingertips, since you can clearly access the internet and post on this website.

You want exciting reasons to live on you say. The men you admire created those reasons. You have to cultivate that desire in yourself. Find your curiosity, something you find beautiful, elegant, whatever, something that distracts you from the world and brings you to another. Then you have to pursue it like it is your God given duty to do so. If you want I can tell you some of my reasons, but you will have to experience your own.
 

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I found a lot of peace in fighting. Find the best dojo around, the one where everyone there can just beat the daylights out of you. Then keep showing up every day, even though you get beat up. When you win, you teach, when you lose you learn. So losing is good because it makes you learn.

After a couple years, you will be ready to actually compete. There is a kind of fight club zen feeling when you get locked in a cage or ring with an animal who is trying to rip your head off, all while drunk fans scream to see blood. Maybe you'll die, but it is a good way to go.
 

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If you're looking for something of substance to read, and considering your current state of mind, i'd recommend this piece of poetic philosophy by one of my favourite Greek writers.

http://www.angel.net/~nic/askitiki.html

In fact, i recommend this to anyone that would be interested in a book that reveres masculine spirituality while being all too human.
 

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Wow. Thanks guys. I never expected there would actually be some matured reasonable answers. I thought this was a hopeless immature place. When I come back from gym I will give a deeper contemplation into the more reasonable answers.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
I found a lot of peace in fighting. Find the best dojo around, the one where everyone there can just beat the daylights out of you. Then keep showing up every day, even though you get beat up. When you win, you teach, when you lose you learn. So losing is good because it makes you learn.

After a couple years, you will be ready to actually compete. There is a kind of fight club zen feeling when you get locked in a cage or ring with an animal who is trying to rip your head off, all while drunk fans scream to see blood. Maybe you'll die, but it is a good way to go.
Interesting. When I get enough money I will try this.
 

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ArcBound said:
Look at the list of famous men you posted.

There is a chance you will never accomplish anywhere near what they have accomplished. And I think this on some level scares you and makes you feel insignificant. Unless you feel the joy by becoming as grand as them, you do not feel good and do not see a reason to keep on living.

But one purpose of living is to find what makes you great, what makes you different, your contribution not only to yourself but to humanity. You may or may not become one of the great men recorded in history, I cannot tell, you cannot tell. But by seeking an end to your life, you are already accepting defeat before you even fight the battle that is your whole life.

Einstein was a nobody working in a patent office for many years in a dead end job. Jesus Christ did not even start preaching until he was 30 years old. St. Paul started late in life, Isaac Newton published his most important theories in his 30's and 40's.

Judging by the fact that you go to school I bet you are around 20 at the oldest. You live in an age where we live much longer than the previous men.

Look at the list of those you admire, what if they had killed themselves when they were young? What if they gave up on life and lived one of mediocrity? You want to have the feeling of being great and deriving joy from it, but you don't actually want to toil and earn it.

Isaac Newton died a virgin for studying science and math so diligently. Buddha gave up his rich life in order to teach his philosophy. St. Paul, Jesus Christ were each EXECUTED for preaching. You have the privilege of having the wisdom of all the world, of all history in your fingertips, since you can clearly access the internet and post on this website.

You want exciting reasons to live on you say. The men you admire created those reasons. You have to cultivate that desire in yourself. Find your curiosity, something you find beautiful, elegant, whatever, something that distracts you from the world and brings you to another. Then you have to pursue it like it is your God given duty to do so. If you want I can tell you some of my reasons, but you will have to experience your own.
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