Man, It's so freaking RANDOM

[8YearLurker]

I'm telling you, it's so freaking random...

One girl, an HB8 blonde with huge breasts and a thin body will meet you out, have fun, insist on paying her share... then invite you back to her place, screw your brains out and make you breakfast in the morning...

Meanwhile you go on a date with another girl, HB8 brunette, I acted relatively the same as I did with the blonde...

And nothing happens. Both were party girls, hot, hair done so nicely, killer bodies, tan..

The second one even blocked me from contacting her.




It's just all so random. It's really this lack of control over other peoples behavior that puts me in my place.

I know I'm not god. I'm a mere man. The dating game can be kind of humbling.

It's so annoying. But I refuse to not play it.

It's almost like being successful with job/money is like 10 times easier than being successful with women.

 

[mrRuckus]

Live with smug confidence that most people are miserable, and if they're not, it's probably because they're on Zoloft.

 

[st_99]

I'm telling you, it's so freaking random...

One girl, an HB8 blonde with huge breasts and a thin body will meet you out, have fun, insist on paying her share... then invite you back to her place, screw your brains out and make you breakfast in the morning...

Meanwhile you go on a date with another girl, HB8 brunette, I acted relatively the same as I did with the blonde...

And nothing happens. Both were party girls, hot, hair done so nicely, killer bodies, tan..

The second one even blocked me from contacting her.




It's just all so random. It's really this lack of control over other peoples behavior that puts me in my place.

I know I'm not god. I'm a mere man. The dating game can be kind of humbling.

It's so annoying. But I refuse to not play it.

It's almost like being successful with job/money is like 10 times easier than being successful with women.

I was thinking the same thing recently. Its nuts out there. HB8's in love with me, and HB6's acting like I'm just some douche bag.

It makes no f'ing sense. Its frustrating but like the other posted said. Getting
into the habit of meeting as many HB's as you can is the key and let the rest sort it self out.

 

[Slickster]

The same way you find some girls hot and others not so much.....

Yet your buddy thinks "not so much" is his dream girl.....

Attraction is random.

It's fun.

 

[8YearLurker]

Yeah you guys are probably right. It's too complicated a thing to try to explain. Just roll with it and move on to the next one.

There's no secret formula.


The Zoloft thing is hillarious yet true to some extent.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Careful not to fall into the trap of thinking the same behavior will work on two different girls. You've got to be flexible enough in your approach and intuitive enough to vary your behavior and communication in the moment based on the feedback (mostly unconscious) that you are getting from the girl in question.

A good pitcher will always be able to throw different pitches based on the batter, the score, the count, the bases, the inning, and how tired he is.

If you always throw the same pitches, you'll easily strike some guys out while others will hit you deep.

 

[Splendidostring]

Why do you guys even care about that? o0

Every living person had a different learning background. We're all different.

You're talking about the aesthetic of the product, the inside is always different.

 

[edger]

Good thread. I've always said, "Every woman needs to be game in some way to f*ck her; they may not all require the same game, but they DO need to be gamed." That accounts for most of the attractive female population. Then there are also those who will have sex with you no matter what you do. But those are very rare.

Like it's being said, you have to make sure you know and study your target before you run any type of game. I try to do that as often as I can. You'll laugh here(and believe me, I'm not in any way, shape, or form, gay whatsoever), but sometimes I'll even try to act a little feminine when I'm targeting a certain genre of women. For instance, hot indie rock type chicks, emo, etc. I can't even begin to tell you how often I see feminine acting guys getting hot pieces of ass in the NYC area. Certain women really like that. Hey, I'm of the mentality, "Whatever's gonna get me laid".

 

[jophil28]

I'm telling you, it's so freaking random...

One girl, an HB8 blonde with huge breasts and a thin body will meet you out, have fun, insist on paying her share... then invite you back to her place, screw your brains out and make you breakfast in the morning...

Meanwhile you go on a date with another girl, HB8 brunette, I acted relatively the same as I did with the blonde...

And nothing happens. Both were party girls, hot, hair done so nicely, killer bodies, tan..

It's almost like being successful with job/money is like 10 times easier than being successful with women.

I might write a piece about the "Diversity Principle" but much of it contradicts PUA dogma. Your story is a classic example of this principle at work.

 

[8YearLurker]

I might write a piece about the "Diversity Principle" but much of it contradicts PUA dogma. Your story is a classic example of this principle at work.

Sounds interesting, I would love to read it when you get the chance to release it.

I've always said, "Every woman needs to be game in some way to f*ck her; they may not all require the same game, but they DO need to be gamed." That accounts for most of the attractive female population. Then there are also those who will have sex with you no matter what you do. But those are very rare.

Like it's being said, you have to make sure you know and study your target before you run any type of game. like that.

Every girl does have to be gamed. Even the unattractive girls you think would give it up easier because their unattractive, they have to be gamed as well. So you might as well just game hot women.

Women are such odd creatures.

Now gay men on the other hand... all they do is pretty much hook up like crazy because they are men and there's no game necessary. I don't wish I was gay but these guys can get laid 10 times a day with no game whatsoever.

Even if a girl wants you so bad she can't take it. She still expects you to game her. It's incredible.

Lesbians don't have it easy either. Butch lesbians have to game hot women in order to get laid. How funny is that?

The only time I can think of when no game is necessary is if you're super famous. But I have a weird feeling a lot of these guys have to have some game as well.

 

[iqqi]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the blonde was attracted to you, while the brunette just was not? Not everyone is going to see you the same way. Everyone sees things differently.

 

[8YearLurker]

match . com

 

[edger]

Lesbians don't have it easy either. Butch lesbians have to game hot women in order to get laid. How funny is that?

Well maybe not the butch one's, but it's definitely easy for the hot one's. All a hot bi/lesbian woman has to do, is hit on another hot bi/lesbian woman, and it's all cake from there. Women's standard's for attraction completely change when it comes to hooking up with other women. Hey, maybe I'll start dressing in drag and convince hot women I'm a woman, and maybe I'll get laid. Lol. Imagine that, haha.

It's funny, because you hardly see the "butch" type lesbians anymore. Every woman I see hooking up with another woman, is usually hot and feminine. Maybe it's a NY thing.

Anyhow, back on topic, if women were like gay men, the world would be near perfect. Actually, speaking of gay men, I've been hitting up my regular hangout on gay night, as there are a decent amount of hot women those nights. Most of the time, the gays leave me alone.

 

[Stagger Lee]

What complicates things even more is that a lot of times the best game is no game at all. For example, you have your pics on Match or where ever and the easiest lays can come from girls that contacted you first. Any game or effort you put forward might have just worked against you.

Women are somewhat random and definitely irrational creatures, but I don't think attraction is totally random, because that would mean every guy would have equal chances. Remember the 80%/20% rule. All that really matter is how many acceptable women can you attract over a given period of time, not attracting any every one. Trying to rationally think of how to change your game to fit every girl can work against you more than it helps. this stuff happens on an emotional level and rationality doesn't work or fit in figuring women.

 

[squirrels]

Are you surprised that what works for one girl doesn't automatically get you in bed with all of them?

Nothing is ever one-size-fits-all.

 

[Veridin]

They are in different times and places of their lives, they have different backgrounds, different tastes, different opinions on various topics that come up in conversations.

It's almost like being successful with job/money is like 10 times easier than being successful with women.

I don't think so, I would say that finding a girl and finding a job is about the same difficulty level. Finding a girl, a job, a new apartment are all like fishing - you have to try over and over, and accept that coming up short is the normal result. You will hear No many times before you hear Yes. Once that is accepted, and you adjust by trying more often and by taking clean breaks from it all, you won't feel frustrated any longer.

 

[8YearLurker]

Yo, it happened again!!

I'm talking to this one girl on the phone for the first time from match. After our conversation she texts me,

"omg, i love your voice, it made me so wet. You sound so sexy and charming. I love how it's so smooth and deep."


So I talk to ANOTHER girl on the phone from match and she texts me later saying

"Ya, your not really what I was expecting. Judging from your pictures I was expecting someone more dominant and sexy sounding. You kind of sound like my 10 year old brother."



Isn't that hillarious? lol. I will note to you gentleman, that woman number 1 was very hot.

Woman number 2 didn't have a picture up but she emailed me saying she would do anything to meet me. HA, until I opened my mouth, now she doesn't want to meet anymore!


Unbelievable lol. It made me mad for like 5 minutes but it's 5 minutes of anger I could do without! LOL

 

[edger]

Yo, it happened again!!

I'm talking to this one girl on the phone for the first time from match. After our conversation she texts me,

"omg, i love your voice, it made me so wet. You sound so sexy and charming. I love how it's so smooth and deep."


So I talk to ANOTHER girl on the phone from match and she texts me later saying

"Ya, your not really what I was expecting. Judging from your pictures I was expecting someone more dominant and sexy sounding. You kind of sound like my 10 year old brother."



Isn't that hillarious? lol. I will note to you gentleman, that woman number 1 was very hot.

Woman number 2 didn't have a picture up but she emailed me saying she would do anything to meet me. HA, until I opened my mouth, now she doesn't want to meet anymore!


Unbelievable lol. It made me mad for like 5 minutes but it's 5 minutes of anger I could do without! LOL

Lol!

 

[8YearLurker]

What complicates things even more is that a lot of times the best game is no game at all. For example, you have your pics on Match or where ever and the easiest lays can come from girls that contacted you first. Any game or effort you put forward might have just worked against you.

Women are somewhat random and definitely irrational creatures, but I don't think attraction is totally random, because that would mean every guy would have equal chances. Remember the 80%/20% rule. All that really matter is how many acceptable women can you attract over a given period of time, not attracting any every one. Trying to rationally think of how to change your game to fit every girl can work against you more than it helps. this stuff happens on an emotional level and rationality doesn't work or fit in figuring women.

It's not totally random. Looks, money, status, <--- these things sway the dating game in your favor.

However those things aren't fool proof and crazy sh1t still happens to the best of us.


Yeah man, what you said about messaging girls on match is 100% true. Sometimes I can win them with one sentence. Other women want 4 paragraphs! Ironically if I write 4 paragraphs to the one sentence chick... I DO NOT GET ANYTHING.

Anyways, I'm actually going to create a thread about the best techniques for internet dating (specifically Match) and specifically for the mature man. Well at least a guy in his 30's. I don't know when I'm going to do this tho but I certainly have a lot of practice/experience lol.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Yo, it happened again!!

I'm talking to this one girl on the phone for the first time from match. After our conversation she texts me,

"omg, i love your voice, it made me so wet. You sound so sexy and charming. I love how it's so smooth and deep."


So I talk to ANOTHER girl on the phone from match and she texts me later saying

"Ya, your not really what I was expecting. Judging from your pictures I was expecting someone more dominant and sexy sounding. You kind of sound like my 10 year old brother."



Isn't that hillarious? lol. I will note to you gentleman, that woman number 1 was very hot.

Woman number 2 didn't have a picture up but she emailed me saying she would do anything to meet me. HA, until I opened my mouth, now she doesn't want to meet anymore!


Unbelievable lol. It made me mad for like 5 minutes but it's 5 minutes of anger I could do without! LOL

Yep, that's exactly how women are for you, totally subjective, capricious and even arbitrary, and their perceptions/attractions aren't really based on anything objective or in reality. And women don't even seem to base their pickiness from their own shortcoming or lacking in looks either. Ugly ones can be as picky or more than hot ones.

Originally Posted by 8YearLurker
It's almost like being successful with job/money is like 10 times easier than being successful with women.


I don't think so, I would say that finding a girl and finding a job is about the same difficulty level. Finding a girl, a job, a new apartment are all like fishing - you have to try over and over, and accept that coming up short is the normal result. You will hear No many times before you hear Yes. Once that is accepted, and you adjust by trying more often and by taking clean breaks from it all, you won't feel frustrated any longer.

I agree that making money is really not much easier than getting women. Everyone is trying to get all the money and all the women and has no moral qualms about fairness. They are about the same thing nowadays. At least in the US, females and their like-minded male minions have a lot of control over one's economics by being in human resources mgt., managers, or just co-workers who influence hiring, firing and promotions. One thing I've learned and seen over and again is that people will equally oppose your pursuits for money and sex at every turn.