Man.. fvck you all. Looks DO matter.

[marinetti]

An unattractive man with style and class looks MUCH better than an attractive man with neither of those things.

I'm a believer that the clothes (and the lifestyle that goes along with them) makes the man.

 

[ARrocket]

go through my shyt. you will understand... well hell at least im not the only one. theres indians and arabs.

I'm Indian.

I'm not a frustrated chump.

 

[amoka]

Why do you care? You have Rossy for life...

 

[Sandow]

We never said looks don't matter. They matter a lot.

Though I know some pretty girls that are into asians. In fact I know one that only dates asians. Yea it's gonna be harder for you in America, but that's just the way it is here. If you want the easy way out I would say move to an Asian country or an asian community in the US.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

Err... "Duh"?

Of course the chick has to dig you! Why would she go out with someone she's not physically attracted to? I do the same thing.

Remember: it's all a numbers game.

It's s.hit like this that makes the whole seduction thing so frustrating. I'm willing to bet that you have no problem getting laid. And yet, you have ZERO understanding of how attraction works. You know so little in fact, that you think women use the exact same criteria as men to select a mate. Scary. You just naturally "get the girls." This reminds me of that scene in Good Will Hunting where Matt Damon's character is explaining to his girlfriend that he doesn't have to even think about organic chemistry to "get it." He's just naturally good. On the other hand, his girlfriend is studying non-stop and putting forth real effort and yet still struggles.

I on the other hand, have a somewhat thorough knowledge of sexual selection in the animal kingdom and know that physical attraction means very little to women. Facial structure is irrelevant to the survival of her young. This is counter-intuitive given what the tabloids, reality T.V. shows and fitness infomercials try to tell you, I know. But the truth is, no amount of facial symmetry will replace confidence. The world is a confusing place.

 

[Warrior74]

I love these threads. This is how you handle them.

First of all, title is CATCH PHRASE. Don't take too much offense.

I know I know... You may think it's another AFC ranting about some stupid thing that happened 5 minutes ago with this girl. No I am not. Let me elaborate.

I am simply stating this: Looks Do Matter

Yup. I mean I am one of believers that personality and confidence are more important than looks. So Why the hell am I saying out of blue that looks matter? Let me elaborate more.

I will be 100% honest. I have NEVER seen an ugly guy go out with a hot girl. Wanna know more? But still, I believe personality and confidence are more important than looks.

Let me go on. But I have seen regular guys go out with hot girls. So why does that matter?

Well... It fvcking matters if you are a 5'7" Asian.
Honestly, small Asian **** is a lie (at least to me). I mean, I have 7 inch ok? Is it that seriously small? Yet, girls probably think that I have 2 inch penis b/c the media and stereotypical racism says so.

Anyways, I have NEVER seen Asian guy dating a white woman. No wait! I have. It was "super-good looking" Asian guy and hot white woman. I am not ugly, but I am plain looking and definitely doesn't have those "typical asian look" plus I work out a lot so have better body than most white guys. But I am not that "hot asian guy" type either, and for someone who has a brother that looks partly hispanic and partly asian (and thus getting laid a lot) is painful.

I don't know. Yal will think I am an idiot for not having confidence and all, but don't assume I am stupid. I know and have tried to raise confidence in every way, but any girls I ask out flaked for 3 yrs.... So I am thinking... thus my looks don't work in US? I mean at least 1 out of 150 million females in this country must like me, shyt? I mean.. under this circumstances, it's kind of hard to gain confidence b/c all I do is FAIL.

I lied down and thought and thought why the shyt I am not popular with girls like some of my legendary friends are on campus. I then compared all the popular dudes and chick magnets that I know in my university. Every single one of them were mostly white, some latino, some black; and all of them were good looking. I have never seen actual asian friends that date white girls... plus I live in Texas where Asian girls are hard to find.

WTF, am I never going to get good with women? Is this racial barrier never to be hauled down (of course unless you're an asian with good-looks) Man... man...

Okay. Looks matter. What are you gonna do about it? Use your big ugly nerdy asian brain and tell me what the solution is. If there is no solution will you kill yourself? Turn gay? Give up? Tell us what you do now. I bet you're not ready to do any of those, I bet you just want someone to tell you it's going to be okay. Well it's not. Not unless you get off your ass, leave the pity party and do some hard work. So toughen up butter cup, its a cruel world. Good luck.

 

[secks]

I'm asian, about 5'9.
Oh and height doesn't really matter, the last girl was taller than me.

I consider myself about average for asian, and maybe slightly below average for average american. I'm thin, not particularly muscular, and I slouch a bit.

Looks matter somewhat, but probably not as much as you think.

The last 3 girls I have dated were all white, blonde, and attractive.

I used to think the same thing as you, but after seeing their pale skin against my dark tan skin when I have sex with them, I realized it's you as an individual that determines their attraction, not your looks or race.

The last couple of girls i've been with are sort of "trophies": only had one boyfriend or so, very attractive, not easy to get with, and every guy in my social groups wants them but can't get them.

So how did it happen? and what do I have going for me?
I'm not really sure, but i've narrowed it down a bit to basically:

I know who I am, and what I like, and more importantly, I do what I like (not what I think gets the girls). I'm approchable, friendly, have lots of hobbies, and have a lot of friends from each of the hobbies.
I don't know if I could say confident, because a couple of girls have told me that they liked that I wasn't too confident about myself.

Every time I'm on a date with a girl, someone I know always seems to come up and talk to me about one of my hobbies (not warcraft) So I guess that's social proof.

It probably helps that i'm good friends with a lot of attractive girls, and my friends, both guys and girls, are usually pretty good looking.

I'm also known as the fashion asian. Though I don't really follow any specific trends, this is just what people have told me.

So focus on yourself, and the girls you like will become attracted to you.

 

[moneyisking]

Screw me. this was stupid thread to start.

I admit. I was just tired of 3yr pursuit with no result and just blamed at my race. Fvck me, but I am going to start over.

I am sure the best way to start is start accepting the race, be proud of it, and build it as an advantage. I mean, I can't be confident unless I am comfortable with who I am first. That is the first step.

Well, I will focus my search little more towards the Asian dating communities. I am sorry for starting a dumb a$$ thread.

I will definitely hang around here a lot though as I am, b/c this place is filled with Don Juans with good advice.

 

[Falcon25]

Looks Do Matter. It Makes Life With Women A Lot Easier. Don't Let PEOPLE WHO THINK OTHERWISE Fool You. Good Genes Are The Most Valuable Thing You Can Have In This World.

 

[Falcon25]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20100505/sc_livescience/highpitchedwomenpreferdeepvoicedmen

Read the first two paragraphs.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

Looks Do Matter. It Makes Life With Women A Lot Easier. Don't Let PEOPLE WHO THINK OTHERWISE Fool You. Good Genes Are The Most Valuable Thing You Can Have In This World.

Wow, you haven't learned a thing since the last one of these WBAFC "Looks Matter" thread rants.

Firstly, nobody "thinks" otherwise. People who are educated in the biological sciences KNOW that facial symmetry is infinitely less important to women in selecting a mate than it is to men. This is akin to saying, "The Grass Is Neon Pink, Don't Let PEOPLE WHO THINK OTHERWISE Fool You." Got that part? Awesome.

Yes, good genes are the most important thing to survival. Obviously. Where you get confused however, is that you equate having a symmetrical face to having "good genes" for survival. It's important that you learn to make the distinction between survival traits and facial symmetry. Otherwise, you will never make any progress.

In regards to your link, this comes as no surprise. Deep voices indicate masculinity, which women are attracted to. No big revelation, there.

 

[vatoloco]

It's s.hit like this that makes the whole seduction thing so frustrating. I'm willing to bet that you have no problem getting laid.

Well, not really. I have to work at it. Just like everybody else.

And yet, you have ZERO understanding of how attraction works. You know so little in fact, that you think women use the exact same criteria as men to select a mate. Scary. You just naturally "get the girls."

Of course they don't have the exact same criteria as men! Otherwise they'd just ask for your penis size right off the bat!

I on the other hand, have a somewhat thorough knowledge of sexual selection in the animal kingdom and know that physical attraction means very little to women. Facial structure is irrelevant to the survival of her young. This is counter-intuitive given what the tabloids, reality T.V. shows and fitness infomercials try to tell you, I know. But the truth is, no amount of facial symmetry will replace confidence. The world is a confusing place.

Well you see, it's not necessarily the face that women are attracted to. Each individual woman has a set of what I call "physical qualifiers" that a man *MUST* have for a woman to be initially attracted to him. Height, race, skin complexion, facial structure, voice, hair length/color, teeth, build, etc.

Of course, the more qualifiers a man meets, the stronger the initial attraction is. But if a man meets the bare minimum number of her qualifiers, he will have a shot with the woman. This is where confidence comes in. If she's attracted to you but if you do not have the confidence in yourself and your game or become a pansy while you're with her, even though she will still be physically attracted to you, she will eventually get turned off and drop you like a bad habit.

But then again, this is just crazy me talking. I'm no human relationships specialist. I only play one on TV.

 

[CarlitosWay]

I admit. I was just tired of 3yr pursuit with no result and just blamed at my race. Fvck me, but I am going to start over.

I am sure the best way to start is start accepting the race, be proud of it, and build it as an advantage. I mean, I can't be confident unless I am comfortable with who I am first. That is the first step.

Well, I will focus my search little more towards the Asian dating communities. I am sorry for starting a dumb a$$ thread.

I will definitely hang around here a lot though as I am, b/c this place is filled with Don Juans with good advice.

Nice, yes a lot of people get fixated on **** they absolutely can not change. Be ****in' proud where you're from. I always have a real good mutual respect for those who take pride in their cultural differences. It's sad to see when someone pretends to be something else or hide where they're from.

I'm Mexican-American and you know what? I'm proud of my heritage/culture and all my hardworking aunts,uncles and grandparents. I'm going to school and ultimately will have a very rewarding career, doing it for me and to also make them proud.

Family&Culture/Education/Career goals/Health....things that should be taken care of with the up most importance.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Whoever started this topic, don't blame looks for lack of success. Sure some women might not be into how you look but there are other hot ones who would be as well.

You should be more worried about giving it a shot than any of this. A guy's actions with her are much more important. I see quite a few good looking fit, muscly guys at the bar but have bad game. The guys who so happen to have good game, more power to them...BUT they can be outdid by a guy more experience or is a bit sharper.

I'd say im a decent looking guy and have good game, but a guy who was less attractive still outdid me cuz he had more experience. Looks aren't end all be all and we should just ignore it. Yea, i said it.

 

[S0LID]

If you're asian, muscular, cool clothes, hair, smell awesome, with super confidence and charisma, you will get girls.

Add a bit of cash, lifestyle, car, friends and you're a keeper.

 

[DonGorgon]

duh looks matter... men try to fool them selves into thinking they dont...lolololol if you dont have looks you need money, and even that wont get you layed as fast as looks will..lol

 

[Falcon25]

duh looks matter... men try to fool them selves into thinking they dont...lolololol if you dont have looks you need money, and even that wont get you layed as fast as looks will..lol

Finally, someone with reality.


LOOKS ALWAYS TRUMPS ALL ELSE.

It is always possible for a normal or ugly guy to get a chick, but make no doubt about it, she will drop you in a heart beat if that Bradd Pitt around the corner pays her a "bit" of attention.

If you are a handsome guy with a nice body, all you have to do is show up. You don't need game, you don't need anything to sleep with her, except a smile. Doesn't mean she will keep you (especially if you are broke) but you don't have to WORK to get puvsy. PERIOD.

 

[Korrupt]

duh looks matter... men try to fool them selves into thinking they dont...lolololol if you dont have looks you need money, and even that wont get you layed as fast as looks will..lol

Being a good looking 20 year old who used to be a nice guy, I can tell you that even if you are good looking, you won't get laid if you act like Mr. Nice Guy.

Once again, I used to be a nice guy, and I got rejected by a girl who I would consider below "my league" in the looks department.

 

[nismo-4]

Finally, someone with reality.


LOOKS ALWAYS TRUMPS ALL ELSE.

It is always possible for a normal or ugly guy to get a chick, but make no doubt about it, she will drop you in a heart beat if that Bradd Pitt around the corner pays her a "bit" of attention.

If you are a handsome guy with a nice body, all you have to do is show up. You don't need game, you don't need anything to sleep with her, except a smile. Doesn't mean she will keep you (especially if you are broke) but you don't have to WORK to get puvsy. PERIOD.

Looks can decide how quickly and cheaply you get laid. Being rich can help you out, but I agree a girl will remember a date with Brad Pitt if it's dinner and a movie but if you're average and try that, she could flake on you. Buyer's remorse.

If you're handsome, just don't blow it. Personality is a keeper factor.

I once knew a dude who had an undesirable body and had lots of money in New Orleans. Then he flew to California and got a great plastic surgeon to fix his body. When he came back, he was getting a lot more female attention, even more so when we rode around in his BMW 750Li, BTW a BMW in New Orleans is not a Lamborghini, but it might as well be cuz there are not a lot of ballers, aside from the Hornets and Saints players.

Sometimes you gotta use what you got to get what you want.

 

[Warrior74]

At the end of the day, what are you whiny faggots gonna do about it? If you believe it matters and your an ugly sack of ****, what are you gonna do? Whine to us about it? Shut the Fvck Up.

Get rich, get surgery, get your ass in the gym, learn game inside and out, lower your standards, turn gay, go asexual, buy a new expensive car, get some hair plugs...what ever...just do something about it and quit your fvcking yapping.

None of you plan on changing your positions or seeing different points of view so just STFU and game on.