Yeah, I've been catching up on thread details since that post. But my position hasn't changed. The "calling her out" didn't need to be agreesive for it to be "bad". The fact that you did it is all that matters. Again you are expecting her to think like a guy. It isn't about logic.
I actually did a thread about this very thing back in December I believe. There are some very LIMITED circumstances where a man and a woman can be completely platonic friends. Most "friendships" between two people of the opposite sex, however, are not truly platonic. One of the parties wants the other sexually, even it is latent. Additionally, most men who think they are "friends" with a woman are in fact simply viewed as an orbiter by her.
He will learn the hard way. We’ve all had to. Women make TERRIBLE friends.
I wish I could disagree - but it's true. As C.S. Lewis said, experience is the most brutal teacher - but you will learn.
Yea, but they aren't quite the same as the "everyday" Orbiter. I think there is more than one kind of Orbiter. There is the "Never going to get in my pants" Orbiter,....then there is the "You're the backup in case my BF/Husband stops keeping me happy" type of Orbiter. I think it is very hard to tell the difference between the two, but I think there is a distinction.
Interesting -- I actually would not consider Rejected/Rejector here because I think there is still interest in the simp orbiter thinking he could get lucky eventually. Nor would I have professional up there. I mean let's be honest, people sh1t where they eat all the time. Even here on SS there will be probably 5-10 posts per month about "how do I ask out my sexy co-worker/client."
Based on my own experiences, if I am the rejector I typically see the women fall off from contact with me because they are butthurt over the rejection. If I am the rejected, I generally cease all contact because I refuse to become an orbiter where I continue to give a woman attention and be her little buddy.
Well I wouldn't want to be an orbiter myself at all. But if my GF/Wife has Obiters I'm more concerned with diagnosing what type they are. But for the most part I'm wouldn't be worried about them
Great idea ... I like the fact that I have tipped the scales in my favour and the boots on the other foot now. Feels goodBe careful here the balance of power / interest could slightly be tilting in your favour
Really ... I like that feeling
If the intial conversation was emotionally charged there's nothing wrong with that women love that sh1t
Deffo was emotionally charged - I needed to spell it out for her
you smashed the ball into her court and left it there. fine if she wasn't interested / offended why bother re engaging
This is my point ... when I made my move on her ... the 2nd/3rd time I took that as a no and yet she still kept REACHING OUT TO ME. Which of course made me chip away at it abit harder.
But this is always the case she reaches out to me always initiates contact, if you wasn’t interested you would not engage and let it fizzle out wouldn’t you. Bipolar
IMO your past the point of her being able to use you for attention .......because you've already told her your not playing
Exactly this
So what does she want ?
Been trying to crack this nut for while as you know
i would reply with
" after our conversation on xyz I'm not sure that's a good idea "
If she still wants your time / attention she's going to need to prove she's worth it ......
