Lay Reports also act as a testament to your legacy as a PUA. It is the documentation and representation of the art, in its pure form. From it, you can learn so much about real pickup - what works, about the style of the artist, and so on. It is not merely a way of bragging to others on the board about getting laid, it is the prime essence of PU, as it proliferates real life knowledge and experience.
There's a lot of preparation and theory before the actual LR. If you would like to just read that, scroll down to "Meeting up" below.
Target Analysis:
Absolutely stunning asian chick (Raised in the US, though). 9.5 or so on my scale, but will be treated as a 10 for all intensive purposes, because of how people respond to her in her environment. She has guys hitting on her wherever she goes - continuously. A girl like this doesn't go 5 minutes in a public place without some guy saying some nervous, predictable kiss-ass **** to her about her looks. Most of them say dumb things like "Wow. I would love to take you out sometime." (But then does nothing to actually make it happen) "You don't have a boyfriend? No way." "OMG - Are you a dancer?". Or they go over the top in the other direction by trying to show indifference or by being mean to her. Almost all men are completely incapable of subtlety and moderation, because they consider her to be so rare and special because of her beauty. Every man in the vicinity would glance over at us wherever we were, and then quickly look away as to not get caught by her or the women they were with.
My treatment:
Distinguish myself from every other guy by treating her like a normal person for once. Connect with her, qualify / compliment her on non-physical things. Be absolutely honest and real. Be clear about my true intentions (both sexual and of a platonic nature) and express them in a tasteful way. Cold read her and pace her reality. Steal her frame, but not in a blatantly ****y or insecure way. Have strong unwavering dialogue and frames. Give strong eye contact.
I will use what we call "Implicit Direct" game. It's a direct framework with a toned down opener so as not to be immediately categorized with the hundreds of other guys that hit on her that week. In other words, it's a game standard to the protocol outlined in my direct game post a while back, but with a specialized compliment (or a "What's up?") as an opener. Works marvelously with SHBs. (Specialized vs. Broad compliment style opener means you're saying something that makes you stand out a bit by seeming perceptive -> "Wow, that purse... (pause) it really compliments your style!" vs. "You are beautiful.")
Logistics (pre-planned):
1. Have her drive to my town. (Slight reverse supplication, my reality, I lead and control)
2. We eat dinner at a classy Italian restaurant.
3. Built in isolation -> We go to an old fashioned japanese hot tub place. Appointment already made, but a surprise to her.
4. Back to my place after hot tub, more sex to further connection, and insure proper conversion.
Logistics were planned before the date. Always build isolation into your logistics. Lead her confidently there according to your plan.
Keys to getting the lay (pre-planned):
-Direct approach and give great compliments. (Direct works amazingly with SHBs when you do it with class and distinction, see my complete guide to direct game post for more on this)
-Mild c+f, to make her laugh
-Frame control
-Open loops - pleasant surprises
-Dressing uniquely confidently. Pinstripe suit. No tie, instead slightly unbuttoned shirt with a small pendant around my neck. One ring on right pinky.
-Slow, romantic kino
-Conversational attraction techniques
-Telling her what to wear
-Extensive pre gaming on phone
-Tight qualification, understanding of her reality - cold reads
-Having her drive out to my place (one hour), subtle prize frame
-Setting frame right in the beginning - telling her we'll have a wonderful romantic night together, and it's like a vacation away from her ordinary life kind of like old lovers reuniting (Our world frame from TokyoPUA)
-Strong eye contact
-Planning and leading evening - creating a fantasy world for her, that she's never experienced before.
-Absolute honesty - telling her I teach workshops BEFORE I went for lay. A risk, but I did it in a very genuine manner, and I think buyers remorse would be worse if I told her or she found out afterwards.
-Relaxation and visualizations an hour before we met up. (Remembering all the times women wanted me or I was successful, over and over)
-Dominance - caveman-esque kino when going for the lay.
-Inducing a trance state by going into trance myself while looking into her eyes, and then giving her a significant SOI.
-Screening questions as a means of connecting and learning about one another.
I used no "DHV's" and told no long stories, avoiding anything resembling an entertainment frame. Besides, canned material is out of style.
Also I'm starting to think that NOT consciously doing DHV's is a DHV, if that makes any sense.
Initial contact and phone game:
I was at a low key nightclub in Boston and saw a mixed four set (2 guys, 2 girls) come in. Decided on the target and approached the group. (Opener: "What's up guys, where you from...") I was cool and vibed with everyone there, as to avoid ****blocking, and then immediately sat with the target. Didn't bother to isolate or try to extract because since she was on a "double date" the logistics would be nearly impossible. Talked for about 5 minutes or so, and # closed. Moved onto the next venue with my wings. (Some people think that 5 minutes is a flaky or non-solid close. They do not yet realize that the time factor is completely irrelevant in PU. If you are ever thinking that a PU didn't go right because you didn't spend enough time on something, there was another factor you're not aware of.)
Isolation is only good when you plan on going for the same day lay or when you plan on venue changing. If you are just trying to #-close, DO NOT ISOLATE the chick from her friends. If she gives you her number in front of her friends, flaking will be reduced dramatically. It's the dynamic of her wanting to show her friends that she met a good, desirable guy. The friends will be questioning like "Did he call you, see I knew he wouldn't call" and then the girl would be responding in your favor like "Yeah he called, and he's really cool, we're going to do something." It becomes a little drama thing where the friends are a bit jealous, and the target is hoping she met a great guy for once. It will work out in your favor - all you gotta do is not **** up!
I left her few chilled out messages. Pretty plain: "Hey what's up. It's me calling to chat and see what you're up to. Give me a call." I focused more on being relaxed and having clear, deep and slow tonality. She didn't call me back at first, so I was persistent. I kept calling and leaving messages, because I knew I could reframe it later.
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How to be persistent and have it work
************************************** Continue to call and leave messages, ignoring the fact that she isn't calling you back. Assume rapport, treat her as an old friend that you are about to reconnect with. Be cool about it, and not mean or spiteful in any way. Set it up in your mind as a low investment on your part, all you're doing is making a short call, to remind her of something wonderful she can have. Once you get her on the phone reframe it with this:
Girl: "Sorry I haven't called you back"
WH: "I understand. You were busy. Sometimes meeting new people and forming connections gets put on the back burner when you're trying to get your life in order."
This achieves a few things:
-Shows you are understanding and cool and not angry or spiteful.
-Frames it as her getting her life together so that she can connect with you.
(Her raising value to meet you)
-Presupposes she is now ready to form a new connection with you.
-Demonstrates that we both have good values and have priorities in our lives straight.
I got back from NYC this past weekend after having an RSI orientation. Target called me that night, about 2AM, and we talked for 3 hours. I did some pregaming during this time.
Some excerpts:
Girl: "I'm getting fat." (Looking for me to qualify her, tell her she's hot)
WH: "Oh, really. Jeez... that's too bad." (instead of qualifying, I accept and reinforce her frame of unattractiveness)
Girl: "Yeah I need to work out. Do you work out?" (Girl trying to screen me)
WH: "Nahh. I'm not in great shape or anything, pretty skinny actually."
(Verbalization of lower value)
Girl: "Oh, we can fix that."
WH: "Why, are you a good cook?" (reversing frame, to screen her)
Girl: "Yeah I'm pretty good." (Girl bites on it)
WH: "Oh yeah, what can you make?" (amplifying screening frame)
Girl: "Some guy I met today was asking me why I don't have a boyfriend, he couldn't believe it." (Demonstrating value, but I see it as qualifying herself to me)
WH: "I understand, guys are so boring these days. I have a friend who tells me the same thing. This girl is gorgeous, but guys just come up to her and say things like "Wow, you're so hot" unable to do anything to make a real connection. And then there's the other guys that are players that just want to use her for sex." (Basically telling her I understand her reality and I'm neither a boring guy who is incapable of talking to her nor a player.
There's a lot of preparation and theory before the actual LR. If you would like to just read that, scroll down to "Meeting up" below.
Target Analysis:
Absolutely stunning asian chick (Raised in the US, though). 9.5 or so on my scale, but will be treated as a 10 for all intensive purposes, because of how people respond to her in her environment. She has guys hitting on her wherever she goes - continuously. A girl like this doesn't go 5 minutes in a public place without some guy saying some nervous, predictable kiss-ass **** to her about her looks. Most of them say dumb things like "Wow. I would love to take you out sometime." (But then does nothing to actually make it happen) "You don't have a boyfriend? No way." "OMG - Are you a dancer?". Or they go over the top in the other direction by trying to show indifference or by being mean to her. Almost all men are completely incapable of subtlety and moderation, because they consider her to be so rare and special because of her beauty. Every man in the vicinity would glance over at us wherever we were, and then quickly look away as to not get caught by her or the women they were with.
My treatment:
Distinguish myself from every other guy by treating her like a normal person for once. Connect with her, qualify / compliment her on non-physical things. Be absolutely honest and real. Be clear about my true intentions (both sexual and of a platonic nature) and express them in a tasteful way. Cold read her and pace her reality. Steal her frame, but not in a blatantly ****y or insecure way. Have strong unwavering dialogue and frames. Give strong eye contact.
I will use what we call "Implicit Direct" game. It's a direct framework with a toned down opener so as not to be immediately categorized with the hundreds of other guys that hit on her that week. In other words, it's a game standard to the protocol outlined in my direct game post a while back, but with a specialized compliment (or a "What's up?") as an opener. Works marvelously with SHBs. (Specialized vs. Broad compliment style opener means you're saying something that makes you stand out a bit by seeming perceptive -> "Wow, that purse... (pause) it really compliments your style!" vs. "You are beautiful.")
Logistics (pre-planned):
1. Have her drive to my town. (Slight reverse supplication, my reality, I lead and control)
2. We eat dinner at a classy Italian restaurant.
3. Built in isolation -> We go to an old fashioned japanese hot tub place. Appointment already made, but a surprise to her.
4. Back to my place after hot tub, more sex to further connection, and insure proper conversion.
Logistics were planned before the date. Always build isolation into your logistics. Lead her confidently there according to your plan.
Keys to getting the lay (pre-planned):
-Direct approach and give great compliments. (Direct works amazingly with SHBs when you do it with class and distinction, see my complete guide to direct game post for more on this)
-Mild c+f, to make her laugh
-Frame control
-Open loops - pleasant surprises
-Dressing uniquely confidently. Pinstripe suit. No tie, instead slightly unbuttoned shirt with a small pendant around my neck. One ring on right pinky.
-Slow, romantic kino
-Conversational attraction techniques
-Telling her what to wear
-Extensive pre gaming on phone
-Tight qualification, understanding of her reality - cold reads
-Having her drive out to my place (one hour), subtle prize frame
-Setting frame right in the beginning - telling her we'll have a wonderful romantic night together, and it's like a vacation away from her ordinary life kind of like old lovers reuniting (Our world frame from TokyoPUA)
-Strong eye contact
-Planning and leading evening - creating a fantasy world for her, that she's never experienced before.
-Absolute honesty - telling her I teach workshops BEFORE I went for lay. A risk, but I did it in a very genuine manner, and I think buyers remorse would be worse if I told her or she found out afterwards.
-Relaxation and visualizations an hour before we met up. (Remembering all the times women wanted me or I was successful, over and over)
-Dominance - caveman-esque kino when going for the lay.
-Inducing a trance state by going into trance myself while looking into her eyes, and then giving her a significant SOI.
-Screening questions as a means of connecting and learning about one another.
I used no "DHV's" and told no long stories, avoiding anything resembling an entertainment frame. Besides, canned material is out of style.
Also I'm starting to think that NOT consciously doing DHV's is a DHV, if that makes any sense.
Initial contact and phone game:
I was at a low key nightclub in Boston and saw a mixed four set (2 guys, 2 girls) come in. Decided on the target and approached the group. (Opener: "What's up guys, where you from...") I was cool and vibed with everyone there, as to avoid ****blocking, and then immediately sat with the target. Didn't bother to isolate or try to extract because since she was on a "double date" the logistics would be nearly impossible. Talked for about 5 minutes or so, and # closed. Moved onto the next venue with my wings. (Some people think that 5 minutes is a flaky or non-solid close. They do not yet realize that the time factor is completely irrelevant in PU. If you are ever thinking that a PU didn't go right because you didn't spend enough time on something, there was another factor you're not aware of.)
Isolation is only good when you plan on going for the same day lay or when you plan on venue changing. If you are just trying to #-close, DO NOT ISOLATE the chick from her friends. If she gives you her number in front of her friends, flaking will be reduced dramatically. It's the dynamic of her wanting to show her friends that she met a good, desirable guy. The friends will be questioning like "Did he call you, see I knew he wouldn't call" and then the girl would be responding in your favor like "Yeah he called, and he's really cool, we're going to do something." It becomes a little drama thing where the friends are a bit jealous, and the target is hoping she met a great guy for once. It will work out in your favor - all you gotta do is not **** up!
I left her few chilled out messages. Pretty plain: "Hey what's up. It's me calling to chat and see what you're up to. Give me a call." I focused more on being relaxed and having clear, deep and slow tonality. She didn't call me back at first, so I was persistent. I kept calling and leaving messages, because I knew I could reframe it later.
**************************************
How to be persistent and have it work
************************************** Continue to call and leave messages, ignoring the fact that she isn't calling you back. Assume rapport, treat her as an old friend that you are about to reconnect with. Be cool about it, and not mean or spiteful in any way. Set it up in your mind as a low investment on your part, all you're doing is making a short call, to remind her of something wonderful she can have. Once you get her on the phone reframe it with this:
Girl: "Sorry I haven't called you back"
WH: "I understand. You were busy. Sometimes meeting new people and forming connections gets put on the back burner when you're trying to get your life in order."
This achieves a few things:
-Shows you are understanding and cool and not angry or spiteful.
-Frames it as her getting her life together so that she can connect with you.
(Her raising value to meet you)
-Presupposes she is now ready to form a new connection with you.
-Demonstrates that we both have good values and have priorities in our lives straight.
I got back from NYC this past weekend after having an RSI orientation. Target called me that night, about 2AM, and we talked for 3 hours. I did some pregaming during this time.
Some excerpts:
Girl: "I'm getting fat." (Looking for me to qualify her, tell her she's hot)
WH: "Oh, really. Jeez... that's too bad." (instead of qualifying, I accept and reinforce her frame of unattractiveness)
Girl: "Yeah I need to work out. Do you work out?" (Girl trying to screen me)
WH: "Nahh. I'm not in great shape or anything, pretty skinny actually."
(Verbalization of lower value)
Girl: "Oh, we can fix that."
WH: "Why, are you a good cook?" (reversing frame, to screen her)
Girl: "Yeah I'm pretty good." (Girl bites on it)
WH: "Oh yeah, what can you make?" (amplifying screening frame)
Girl: "Some guy I met today was asking me why I don't have a boyfriend, he couldn't believe it." (Demonstrating value, but I see it as qualifying herself to me)
WH: "I understand, guys are so boring these days. I have a friend who tells me the same thing. This girl is gorgeous, but guys just come up to her and say things like "Wow, you're so hot" unable to do anything to make a real connection. And then there's the other guys that are players that just want to use her for sex." (Basically telling her I understand her reality and I'm neither a boring guy who is incapable of talking to her nor a player.