Looks, MONEY and Status

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Do you ever wonder if we put too much analysis into why women choose the men they do? Is it really worth hundreds of PUA books on game and loads of fraudulent mind-f*ck techniques?



The best thing about the red pill is the simplicity. The truth is usually very simple. Our lives become more simple when we are honest with ourselves.
 
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I watched both of the videos all the way through (a rarity for me), I found them interesting. I agree with Frog that they are a little over the top, a little overly pessimistic, but there is definitely a strain of truth in there. A few points:

I've always thought that MGTOW consisted mainly of guys who were unsuccessful with women, so they decided to focus on other things in their lives. These videos seem to support that.

The body language Melania shows toward Trump might indicate that she is angry with him about something, not necessarily that she is physically repulsed by him, but who knows?

My idea of the red pill has always been that the red pill represents reality. These guys seem to see the red pill as meaning "Things are the sh!ttiest they could possibly be". Life isn't all bad, not by a long shot.

As someone who is approaching 60, and can't really deny that my SMV is on the decline, I enjoyed the bit of the effects of aging. Men do age better than women, however, as long as you take care of yourself.

That guy who got his face burned off, man if that doesn't make you thankful for what you have I don't know what to tell you. The message of this video seems to be that if you don't look like Chad Thunderc0ck, then you might as well give up. That seems a little too dire to me, and I don't agree with it anyway.
 
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I watched both of the videos all the way through (a rarity for me), I found them interesting. I agree with Frog that they are a little over the top, a little overly pessimistic, but there is definitely a strain of truth in there. A few points:

I've always thought that MGTOW consisted mainly of guys who were unsuccessful with women, so they decided to focus on other things in their lives. These videos seem to support that.

The body language Melania shows toward Trump might indicate that she is angry with him about something, not necessarily that she is physically repulsed by him, but who knows?

My idea of the red pill has always been that the red pill represents reality. These guys seem to see the red pill as meaning "Things are the sh!ttiest they could possibly be". Life isn't all bad, not by a long shot.

As someone who is approaching 60, and can't really deny that my SMV is on the decline, I enjoyed the bit of the effects of aging. Men do age better than women, however, as long as you take care of yourself.

That guy who got his face burned off, man if that doesn't make you thankful for what you have I don't know what to tell you. The message of this video seems to be that if you don't look like Chad Thunderc0ck, then you might as well give up. That seems a little too dire to me, and I don't agree with it anyway.
If a girl is gonna conplain that the POTUS isn't good enough for her, then I don't know what to say.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I watched both of the videos all the way through (a rarity for me), I found them interesting. I agree with Frog that they are a little over the top, a little overly pessimistic, but there is definitely a strain of truth in there. A few points:

I've always thought that MGTOW consisted mainly of guys who were unsuccessful with women, so they decided to focus on other things in their lives. These videos seem to support that.

The body language Melania shows toward Trump might indicate that she is angry with him about something, not necessarily that she is physically repulsed by him, but who knows?

My idea of the red pill has always been that the red pill represents reality. These guys seem to see the red pill as meaning "Things are the sh!ttiest they could possibly be". Life isn't all bad, not by a long shot.

As someone who is approaching 60, and can't really deny that my SMV is on the decline, I enjoyed the bit of the effects of aging. Men do age better than women, however, as long as you take care of yourself.

That guy who got his face burned off, man if that doesn't make you thankful for what you have I don't know what to tell you. The message of this video seems to be that if you don't look like Chad Thunderc0ck, then you might as well give up. That seems a little too dire to me, and I don't agree with it anyway.
Agree.

I have to say also that I don't fully agree with these videos. I think MONEY carries a lot more weight than these videos say because I've seen it and experienced it first hand. I also don't buy into the idea that male SMV drops around the same time a woman's does.

When it comes to flings and pure SEX, these videos are right on target. But LTR's are more complex than the videos give them credit for.

However, these are still very good red pill videos because I'm always saying how PUA books are stupid and VALUE matters more than "game". These videos showcase that very well.

Maximize your LOOKS, MONEY and STATUS if you want consistent options.
 

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Looks and money are fairly straightforward, but status is a lot more complex of an animal. Every woman has their own concept of it, which then changes over time as circumstances/environment change.
 
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Looks and money are fairly straightforward, but status is a lot more complex of an animal. Every woman has their own concept of it, which then changes over time as circumstances/environment change.
I'm not even sure it exists. Or that it should be a factor.

If it does exist, very few people have it. Like George Clooney.
 
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I'm not even sure it exists. Or that it should be a factor.

If it does exist, very few people have it. Like George Clooney.
Or maybe it does exist, and...

Status = Occupation?

That's usually the first thing girls want to know about you.

Either way, mine's kind of fvcked until I change my name in 2022 if I decide to.
 

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I have to say also that I don't fully agree with these videos. I think MONEY carries a lot more weight than these videos say because I've seen it and experienced it first hand.
I was kind of wondering why you were posting these videos since you are a proponent of money being attractive. These videos are basically saying if you don't have looks you have nothing. But there are studies that show that women will think a guy is better looking if he has money, and that women will have more orgasms with wealthier men. This kind of goes against the idea that they put rich men into a "beta provider" box while they are out screwing the homeless guy around the corner.

I don't think Trump is a good example of money being attractive. He's 71 years old for one thing, there's a big difference between that and a 35 year old guy who has money. I still say in that video his wife looks angry at him. Whatever you think of Trump as a president, he does seem to have the ability to p!ss people off lol.

I think personality is a big thing. If a guy is warm and friendly, and has the type of personality that people are drawn to, that will help him with women. And if he has a group of friends or associates that look up to him, that gives him some status too.
 

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Or maybe it does exist, and...

Status = Occupation?

That's usually the first thing girls want to know about you.

Either way, mine's kind of fvcked until I change my name in 2022 if I decide to.
Of course it exists...typically it comes into play with status in a particular place...for instance if you are at a club the status goes DJ, Bouncers, Bartenders

Most chicks have a thing for the DJ. Why? Because he is performing and has the highest status of anyone in the club.

At a job it might be her boss or regional manager, etc...

High status can be greatly dependant upon place and circumstances.

In college, the professors, etc
 

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Of course it exists...typically it comes into play with status in a particular place...for instance if you are at a club the status goes DJ, Bouncers, Bartenders

Most chicks have a thing for the DJ. Why? Because he is performing and has the highest status of anyone in the club.

At a job it might be her boss or regional manager, etc...

High status can be greatly dependant upon place and circumstances.

In college, the professors, etc
or the coolest and richest men in the city that every chick talks about
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I was kind of wondering why you were posting these videos since you are a proponent of money being attractive. These videos are basically saying if you don't have looks you have nothing. But there are studies that show that women will think a guy is better looking if he has money, and that women will have more orgasms with wealthier men. This kind of goes against the idea that they put rich men into a "beta provider" box while they are out screwing the homeless guy around the corner.

I don't think Trump is a good example of money being attractive. He's 71 years old for one thing, there's a big difference between that and a 35 year old guy who has money. I still say in that video his wife looks angry at him. Whatever you think of Trump as a president, he does seem to have the ability to p!ss people off lol.

I think personality is a big thing. If a guy is warm and friendly, and has the type of personality that people are drawn to, that will help him with women. And if he has a group of friends or associates that look up to him, that gives him some status too.
I think when it comes to people in high school and college.. looks matter a lot more. But after that.. it gets more complex.

But even then.. its not all about looks. I knew some girls when I was in college who were dating guys in their 30's because they had money. They were also fantasizing about marrying these guys. Of course, the guys were just using them for sex lol.

For women.. I think the appearance of power is what makes them attracted to a man. Not just being handsome or pretty. That's why they like muscles and its why I think Black guys do better than Asian guys and why tall guys do better than short guys. Its the image of power and fitness.. not the image of beauty that women are drawn to.
 

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Status is usually a positive thing, but it can be bad traits about you as well, given that women often make bad decisions in assessing status. A drug dealer is a good example - he has status to any user. In most strip bars coke > money when determining status, especially in the minds of strippers, but that does not mean being a coke dealer has any other status in society.
 
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