Looks and money matter. Don’t think otherwise

[Thebestthereeveris]

Your looks and money are a result of your work ethic in the gym and your job or your career of choice. It signifies drive and willingness to go above and beyond. Those who say personality matter are wrong. Your personality traits should be strong, solid, ambitious, and direct which is a result of working hard. Yes there are losers who didn’t have to work for their looks or money and girls WILL be attracted to them but they will lose interest when they learn he’s a pvssy with no work ethic. I’ve seen it happen again. The best man is one who earned his looks and money so yes they do matter but not why you think

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If you're aiming to be a provider.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Yes there are losers who didn’t have to work for their looks or money and girls WILL be attracted to them but they will lose interest when they learn he’s a pvssy with no work ethic.

There seems to be much talk about others we don’t know who will eventually get their comeuppance that nearly always follows a lesson or insight. Why is that?

Hardly any men have money from no work and I highly doubt even attractive women give a damn if trust-fund boys “didn’t earn it”. What they care about is the money, earned or not.

The biggest womanizer I know is from a rich family and is both rich and lazy, perhaps the laziest man I’ve ever met. As if his wife cares about this, while they live in a rich town with great schools for their kids. He once told his wife, during a bad argument, “I’ll sign a check for a million dollars for you if you leave.” No, he was not joking. He cheats and is lazy and annoying. But she’s still there after two decades.

I suppose he is perceived as strong and solid because of the power and can wield over a woman.

 

[manfrombelow]

At the end of the day, YES.

At the end of the day, your look and money are direct results of how disciplined and well-managed your life has been until this moment.

Anyone disagrees is very likely to be some big fat overweight basement dweller who is also addicted to Big Mac.

 

[zekko]

Those who say personality matter are wrong.

I disagree here, personality definitely matters. If a guy is a boring stiff girls aren't going to be thrilled to be with him. On the other hand, some guys have a warmth that just draws people to them. They have a way of talking to you that makes you feel like you're the most important person in the world to them, that makes you feel like you've known them forever. That is a skill I've never had. I click with certain people, and others I just don't. But these guys can draw everybody in, and girls see that as a leader type, plus they are susceptible to it themselves. And that's just one example, there are other personality types that can attract women.

I do agree looks and money can matter. Money, not always, but it can. Not as a provider, but as a sign that you are a strong, capable, successful man, which can be very attractive. Money also allows you to live a more interesting and exciting lifestyle, which again, can be attractive.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I disagree here, personality definitely matters. If a guy is a boring stiff girls aren't going to be thrilled to be with him. On the other hand, some guys have a warmth that just draws people to them. They have a way of talking to you that makes you feel like you're the most important person in the world to them, that makes you feel like you've known them forever. That is a skill I've never had. I click with certain people, and others I just don't. But these guys can draw everybody in, and girls see that as a leader type, plus they are susceptible to it themselves. And that's just one example, there are other personality types that can attract women.

I do agree looks and money can matter. Money, not always, but it can. Not as a provider, but as a sign that you are a strong, capable, successful man, which can be very attractive. Money also allows you to live a more interesting and exciting lifestyle, which again, can be attractive.

As hilarious as it may sound, the science actually says otherwise; personality may be a factor but looks are far more appealing to women. I've also saw different studies quoted saying the same thing. I can also anecdotally confirm personality matters very little if the other boxes are checked.

Men's Looks Matter More Than Women Admit, Study Shows

Among men considered moderately attractive, women do pick the guy who had the most desirable personality traits.

www.livescience.com

Im not disagreeing with you, it does matter, just not nearly as much as most people say it does; this could be because women don't want to portray themselves as the shallow creatures they really are, you'll see all sorts of opinion articles online about how personality matters more to women than men, but what is this really saying? Outside of outright marriage I've never heard a guy say "Our personalities didn't match", I just don't think the statement means much. Again, I know you didn't say that but if you look online this narrative is everywhere and it is true but a bit disingenuous.

I find women will almost assign a personality to good looking men in their own heads as opposed to trying to find one.

 

[zekko]

As hilarious as it may sound, the science actually says otherwise; personality may be a factor but looks are far more appealing to women. I've also saw different studies quoted saying the same thing. I can also anecdotally confirm personality matters very little if the other boxes are checked.

Not saying personality is as important as looks when it comes to attraction. But I can anecdotally confirm that personality does matter. Not in every case, but in many. Depends on the person, everybody is an individual.

 

[Learning Curve]

Your looks and money are a result of your work ethic in the gym and your job or your career of choice. It signifies drive and willingness to go above and beyond. Those who say personality matter are wrong. Your personality traits should be strong, solid, ambitious, and direct which is a result of working hard. Yes there are losers who didn’t have to work for their looks or money and girls WILL be attracted to them but they will lose interest when they learn he’s a pvssy with no work ethic. I’ve seen it happen again. The best man is one who earned his looks and money so yes they do matter but not why you think

The first thing a woman sees is your face and your body. That's it. She knows within 5 seconds if she wants to f3uck you or not.

Then your personality comes in place that completes and amplifies your looks. Then Money and having your sh1t together comes last.

This is the formula and will always be.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Not saying personality is as important as looks when it comes to attraction. But I can anecdotally confirm that personality does matter. Not in every case, but in many. Depends on the person, everybody is an individual.

Im not disagreeing with you, but for example I don't attribute something like being funny to personality, I think given the right time and place anybody can be funny.

What would you attribute a desirable personality as?

 

[DreamAgain]

The first thing a woman sees is your face and your body. That's it. She knows within 5 seconds if she wants to f3uck you or not.

Then your personality comes in place that completes and amplifies your looks. Then Money and having your sh1t together comes last.

This is the formula and will always be.

100% right.

 

[NoFear]

go read the comments in this video:

Literally the most rated comment is:

“There is this thing abot his eyes that make him look so high ( and so attractive )”
And the guy in the video is literally a mesomorph that hasnt step a foot in the gym his entire life, about 6 ft tall that is a complete F-U-C-Kboy rebel that doesnt pay attention to societal norms, has no work ethic and smokes weed at school.
Yet, all the girls in the comments are drooling about him.
THIS is the real lover for most despicable,feminist driven and educated and social media influenced women. ( which the mainstream media and feminists and leftists in power are making sure its majority of women )

What you said only matters as a provider.

Looks matter, but not the way you think.




Now, with that said let me clarify:

Should you give up on your purpose? No.
But please do it for yourself, because i can guarantee that all the **** you see in that video is what most women want… and the guy didnt move a single hair to earn any of those qualities, he was born with them.

 

[zekko]

What would you attribute a desirable personality as?

Depends on the individual, what the woman is looking for, or what she reacts to.
But as I said, some people have an ability to draw people to them and connect, and I think some women will see that as status or leadership, and be attracted to it.

 

[Solomon]

Water is wet and the sky is blue

 

[The Duke]

If you have a good personality that attracts people then you will believe personality matters. If you get by on looks, money, status alone then you probably won't believe personality matters. How would you know?

It's my personality and ability to connect that is why I have had a second date with almost every woman I went out with .

 

[Slowhandluke]

80% of women think only the top 10% of men are attractive. 10% of men get all of the attention from women. What is the average man suppose to do? Don't be average? But by definition, they are average. Looks and money. The average man now has more money than his fore fathers did in the past. Wages in the past century was like, what 10 cent an hour? Minimun wage is now aprox 115X that @ $15. Is the average man now worse looking than the average man in the past? Collectively, the averrage height of men have gone up. I think in WW2 it was 5'8" now the average is 5'10". There are less deformities now because of modern medicines, etc. While a lot of average men are fatter, in past societies, being fat wasn't considered that big of an issue.

At the end of the day, average men are AVERAGE by DEFINITION. If average women only choose to date Chads, then the average man loses so does the average women. To make every man better than average is an impossible feat. By definiton, there will always be average men... and there will always be average women. These average women must understand no matter how attractive they are, a lot of them will not be able to get the top 10% of men. At the end of the day, looks and money doesn't matter. It's all relative. Average people will have average money... and average people will have average looks. Not every guy can be in that 10% of attractive men (money and looks-wise). It's mathmatically impossible.

This leads to the inevitable conculsion. If average women want a family.. want to be mothers and have a family.. .have a supportive husband, etc.. the average woman must date and marry average men that THEY DO NOT INITIALLY FIND ATTRACTIVE. Until this changes, telling average guys to make more money... to be more successful.. to be more attractive is stupid. All of these factors are based on comparing one man with another man.. And as we have seen, average women only find the top 10% of men attractive. The average man cannot be the 10% of the population and therefore the average man will NEVER BE INITIALLY ATTRACTIVE by the average woman.

 

[SargeMaximus]

If you're aiming to be a provider.

This. Since I became an employee my results have plummeted yet I make more money now than when I was a freelancer

 

[Hamurabimbi]

80% of women think only the top 10% of men are attractive. 10% of men get all of the attention from women. What is the average man suppose to do? Don't be average? But by definition, they are average. Looks and money. The average man now has more money than his fore fathers did in the past. Wages in the past century was like, what 10 cent an hour? Minimun wage is now aprox 115X that @ $15. Is the average man now worse looking than the average man in the past? Collectively, the averrage height of men have gone up. I think in WW2 it was 5'8" now the average is 5'10". There are less deformities now because of modern medicines, etc. While a lot of average men are fatter, in past societies, being fat wasn't considered that big of an issue.

At the end of the day, average men are AVERAGE by DEFINITION. If average women only choose to date Chads, then the average man loses so does the average women. To make every man better than average is an impossible feat. By definiton, there will always be average men... and there will always be average women. These average women must understand no matter how attractive they are, a lot of them will not be able to get the top 10% of men. At the end of the day, looks and money doesn't matter. It's all relative. Average people will have average money... and average people will have average looks. Not every guy can be in that 10% of attractive men (money and looks-wise). It's mathmatically impossible.

This leads to the inevitable conculsion. If average women want a family.. want to be mothers and have a family.. .have a supportive husband, etc.. the average woman must date and marry average men that THEY DO NOT INITIALLY FIND ATTRACTIVE. Until this changes, telling average guys to make more money... to be more successful.. to be more attractive is stupid. All of these factors are based on comparing one man with another man.. And as we have seen, average women only find the top 10% of men attractive. The average man cannot be the 10% of the population and therefore the average man will NEVER BE INITIALLY ATTRACTIVE by the average woman.

ultimately most men get a woman. While the journey that attractive men vs. average men take is different. The destination is the same.

 

[BadBoy89]

Depends how young the woman is.

Young, fertile -> needs good genes (height, hair)
Older, menopausal -> needs money and status

A woman only cares about money when her sexual options dry up. The man can’t be a hobo, but a 6’2 fireman making $100,000 / year would do just fine for a young woman wanting to get pregnant.

A 6’2 fireman making $100,000 would not be suitable for a 45 year old woman with 2 kids looking to take trips and eat in expensive restaurants.

Everything depends on the woman’s age.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Depends how young the woman is.

Young, fertile -> needs good genes (height, hair)
Older, menopausal -> needs money and status

A woman only cares about money when her sexual options dry up. The man can’t be a hobo, but a 6’2 fireman making $100,000 / year would do just fine for a young woman wanting to get pregnant.

A 6’2 fireman making $100,000 would not be suitable for a 45 year old woman with 2 kids looking to take trips and eat in expensive restaurants.

Everything depends on the woman’s age.

This is not true.

 

[RazorRambo24]

This is just cope mentality. You're trying to convince not others, but really yourself that these 2 things are the only major factors taht matter, because you probably don't or haven't experienced anything else.

I made a thread earlier this summer how I seen so many unideal dudes with some pretty nice women.. Short dudes, balding, unattractive, etc.

I can't help but feel like some of you guys are just stuck in this viscous cycle of frustration... and it all boils down to just lacking a robust social life and or personality.

I don't think anyone is unaware of the power of attraction when it comes to looks and money.. But to think taht's the end all be all, and that every girl simply thinks that b lack and white is nonsense. Take it from someone who's lived in 2 of the biggest cities and seen it all.