I got caught up in the pua craze at one point and I still look back on those days with fondness. It was fun, no doubt about it. A decade ago, PUA was relevant and still a big deal. The pendulum has swung back hard in the opposite direction with mgtow and redpill, which supposedly offer insight on women's true nature, our true nature and purpose as men, yada yada yada.
What's striking however is what all three schools of thought have in common: NONE of the best known guys in any camp have success with hot women! Neil Strauss, Markowitz (Mystery), Owen Cook (RSD) for example, have had little success dating conventionally hot women. Neil dated a girl in a rock band, but she was well into her 30's I believe. Mystery was more successful, dating a string of drugged out anorexic strippers. Owen I think, had the least success of them all but appears to have made a living in PUA longer than the other two.
The redpill guys are smart enough not to show their faces and it goes without saying they have almost no success dating.
What's the point of redpill and mgtow anywayz? These guys clearly do not get laid and their results are considerably worse than even the pua guys, who to their credit, made it their mantra to always go out and approach whenever possible.
At this rate, manosphere will be advocating sex dolls and porn exclusively. If we are looking for role models, then we should STOP listening to all manosphere guys, yes?
What's striking however is what all three schools of thought have in common: NONE of the best known guys in any camp have success with hot women! Neil Strauss, Markowitz (Mystery), Owen Cook (RSD) for example, have had little success dating conventionally hot women. Neil dated a girl in a rock band, but she was well into her 30's I believe. Mystery was more successful, dating a string of drugged out anorexic strippers. Owen I think, had the least success of them all but appears to have made a living in PUA longer than the other two.
The redpill guys are smart enough not to show their faces and it goes without saying they have almost no success dating.
What's the point of redpill and mgtow anywayz? These guys clearly do not get laid and their results are considerably worse than even the pua guys, who to their credit, made it their mantra to always go out and approach whenever possible.
At this rate, manosphere will be advocating sex dolls and porn exclusively. If we are looking for role models, then we should STOP listening to all manosphere guys, yes?