lets just be friends...

[organizedconfusion]

i really don't understand why being friends with a girl is
soo bad in everyones eyes...

i have met more girls through girls as friends and their friends
and their other friends..girls are extensive networks.
and if you keep a "cool" rep and NOT a slimey playerish one-
they will be pretty much cool with you also.

that "girl" that everyone has thats "just a friend"?
well, she most likely has 6 real good friends , that knows
about another 6 that knows about another 6...
that are involved in individual social circles involving even more girls...

that one "friend" that everyone has?
could be a key to meeting alot of girls that you possibly never
even thought of or looked into ,because SHE just wanted to
be friends you let your EGO get in the way of the big picture..
you just dismissed her and the huge oppritunity that came along with her

think about this the next time a girl tells you she just wants
to be friends because that girl will most likley be your ticket
to meeting more girls than you could possibly imagine...

i am not saying to use her just to get to her friends,
i am saying actually be friends with her HAVE FUN ,you liked
her for a reason-just because you're not sleeping with her
or planning the future together dosen't mean you can't enjoy
eachothers company...she'll be more then happy to invite
"the girls" over for some beers and movies

 

[Boner da Stoner]

chaah man!

You know thats 4 real. I've found girls that are social shut outs but are total bombs that make me burn up in seconds. The thing with these girls is taht they've got 'weird' tastes... real weird

When you play the friends card with some girls they immediately want to hook you up with their friends, when one comes to visit and she is real shy. That's awesome, I love the innocent chicks, love to get them excited and talking to people, opening their eyes... like I'm creating a female DJ. When the shy girls come to visit I'm brought ot the side and given bunches of information that you would never learn inside of a bar.

Pals over *****

 

[MightyMate]

A HB9 which is Your friend is a HB9 that You dont know how to ****.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

I think o_0 is making a come back with better engrish

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by MightyMate
A HB9 which is Your friend is a HB9 that You dont know how to ****.

her loss

 

[Jukeboxhero]

Originally posted by MightyMate
A HB9 which is Your friend is a HB9 that You dont know how to ****.

...or maybe she would be someone you just don't want to fock!

I have a few friends who are pretty attractive but I'm not really that interested in having sex with them. If they wanted to I might, but I'm definetly content just having them as friends.
Also, I consider some women to be "attractive" but I'm not really attracted to them.

Organized, I defintely agree with you. It seems strange that people think like beings "Just friends" with a girl is the most terrible thing in the world, personally I think it's a lot better than being the type of guy that most women avoid.

 

[backbreaker]

In theory, yes, there is nohting wrong with being friends.

But here is what is the problem.

Men and women dont' think alike, and if you get LJBF'ed.. you aren't really her friend, you just got rejected and she doesn't want to feel bad about telling you to get lost.

Now, my friends, and I do for my guy friends, introduce each other from time to time with women we might think they would be matches for... I hooked my best friend up with a girl he dated off and on for 9 years. My other best friend, I introduced him to his EX GF of 3 years.

In both cases, when I met the girls, I was already taken (by someone they knew so I couldnt' cheat) so I was happy to introduce them to one of my 2 best friends, whichever one I thought was a better match.

See women don't work like that. Because with women, there is an entirely different converstation going on.

See, this is how a woman thinks..

Wait.. wait, let me back up and reinterate the fact that 95% of the time, you really aren't her friend in the first place, you are a guy who tried to talk to her, you didn't "do it" for some reason to her and she isn't sexually attracted or romanteically interested in you.

The only time you can get a woman friend to let her introduce you to her "girlfrinds' is if you have what I call a "postiive refference"

Otherwise, all her GF's are going to think, or even say, "damn, if he is such a good guy, why don't YOU take him?"

Even if the girl you were LJBF'ed by.. say has a BF, and you still stick around, it still does no good. If you were a good catch, at worst she would keep you around her and her only to booast her ego or a fallback plan.. beause GF's steal each other's GF's man like kids steal candy... She isn't going to want to share this great catch, e ven though you aren't dating, with her friends...

And that's just IF she likes you, ,which she probably doesn't.

lol, then, if you couldn't game this chick, what in the hell makes you think you are going to have such startling success with her friends?

Now, I have no problem keeping in "touch" with females that for some reason or another it doesn't work out, but you will never hear any of them say "oh, he's soo sweet, he's a great guy".. all of them at one point in time either got it from me, or I made no mistake about my intentions to give it to them.

Which sounds better?

What about backbreaker?

"Girl, he is soo sweet, and such a nice guy.. he took me on a date and I told him I wasn't interested, now we go out and I hang out with him every once in a while, he is such a good guy"

or

What about backbreaker?

"Well, I met him, we went on a date, and he was pretty blunt about him wanting to have sex with me.. I told him I was taken/wasn't interested right now, and he told me that's fine and that he would see me around.. haven't really heard from him sense.. when I see him he is still very nice to me, but I don't really ever talk to him... he moved on pretty quick"

The entire point is, women weren't ment to be "friends with". Women don't like sports. They don't have the same body parts as we do. Most don't like beer. Women have kids, Men Make Kids. Women are emotional, Men are Rational. Women go to clubs and bars to hang out with "the girls". Men go to clubs and Bars to get laid. women don't pacturaly like video games (most have learned to accecpt this)

Now, you being a testerone crazed young adult, what do women offer as friendship? I wouldn't trust a woman with a butterfinger, let alone any information I consider important... women love to talk to each other, and the more "drama" you can add to their lives the better.

Now, it's good to get to know women, it's good to have some things in common.. but the whole "women can be freinds" angle just doesn't work.. because, ,and this is my last point... any woman you meet, you meet and got to know becuase you wanted to **** her. If it were up to you, you would be ****ing her as we speak. She decided she didn't want to go that route, so you ended up being "friends" and now you have rationalized this as being okay, and you have "so much in common".

Everytime you look at your new "friend", you will not see a "friend" but a girl that you failed to have a relationshiip with.

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by backbreaker


Wait.. wait, let me back up and reinterate the fact that 95% of the time, you really aren't her friend in the first place, you are a guy who tried to talk to her, you didn't "do it" for some reason to her and she isn't sexually attracted or romanteically interested in you.

The only time you can get a woman friend to let her introduce you to her "girlfrinds' is if you have what I call a "postiive refference"

Otherwise, all her GF's are going to think, or even say, "damn, if he is such a good guy, why don't YOU take him?"

Bingo, backbreaker nailed the exact reason why this "tip" is KJ rubbish.

In theory it sounds valid, in real world snatch application its complete crap. Chicks are extremely socially driven and have a very strong sheep mentality, in short b!tches talk and want what other b!tches have.

As backbreaker already alluded to LJBF is just her way of nexting you , she doesnt give a fvck about your "friendship", and if you dont cut it with her what makes you think your of any social value to her hot/hotter friends, on the contrary your a social liability to her friends. Your simply theorising with a male brain what may work here.

Out of curiosity after youve been nexted by these chicks how many of their friends have you actually fvcked?

Sure if you stick around long enough you may pick up a friend of hers who has lower social value than the b!tch who nexted you (UG), but thats neither here nor there, you could do that anywhere.

Tip is useless.

 

[backbreaker]

ding ding freaking ding...

That's what I ment by "postiive refferences"

For you to have a chance with her friends, she has to see you in a sexual light.. otherwise her friends aren't going to magically see you in a different way.. it just doesn't work.

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by JC Jerkson
If YOU ljbf HER then she will likely still be attracted. It is only then you can tap into her social network

If SHE ljbf YOU first then you have almost zero chance. Even if she introduces you to her friends she will tell her friends what a loser you are.

So the key is to LJBF her first.


JC Jerkson

that was the point i was trying to make actually
my bad


what am i an amatuer over here?
since i control the frame from the beggining then she would'nt
even get a chance to "next" me, i'd "next" her first



i have done this toooo many times and it's failed ONLY ONCE.
and i REMEMBER because i refer her to as THE ICE QUEEN-
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ice+queen
EVEN WITH HER there were ways that i got to her , but i made the mistake of trying too hard to make her "mine".
i have known her for 7 years,we been through alot together
and i really did want to settle down with her ,and i did ALL
the AFC things because i "thought" thats what she wanted of me.
wow, was i wrong...


the advice i post is through 100% experiance-
0% theory aside from the applied knowledge i learned...



plus,and am i the only one that see's the value gaining
insight and confidence in just being with females
in general?

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by backbreaker
In theory, yes, there is nohting wrong with being friends.

But here is what is the problem.

Men and women dont' think alike, and if you get LJBF'ed.. you aren't really her friend, you just got rejected and she doesn't want to feel bad about telling you to get lost.

Now, my friends, and I do for my guy friends, introduce each other from time to time with women we might think they would be matches for... I hooked my best friend up with a girl he dated off and on for 9 years. My other best friend, I introduced him to his EX GF of 3 years.

In both cases, when I met the girls, I was already taken (by someone they knew so I couldnt' cheat) so I was happy to introduce them to one of my 2 best friends, whichever one I thought was a better match.

See women don't work like that. Because with women, there is an entirely different converstation going on.

See, this is how a woman thinks..

Wait.. wait, let me back up and reinterate the fact that 95% of the time, you really aren't her friend in the first place, you are a guy who tried to talk to her, you didn't "do it" for some reason to her and she isn't sexually attracted or romanteically interested in you.

The only time you can get a woman friend to let her introduce you to her "girlfrinds' is if you have what I call a "postiive refference"

Otherwise, all her GF's are going to think, or even say, "damn, if he is such a good guy, why don't YOU take him?"

Even if the girl you were LJBF'ed by.. say has a BF, and you still stick around, it still does no good. If you were a good catch, at worst she would keep you around her and her only to booast her ego or a fallback plan.. beause GF's steal each other's GF's man like kids steal candy... She isn't going to want to share this great catch, e ven though you aren't dating, with her friends...

And that's just IF she likes you, ,which she probably doesn't.

lol, then, if you couldn't game this chick, what in the hell makes you think you are going to have such startling success with her friends?

Now, I have no problem keeping in "touch" with females that for some reason or another it doesn't work out, but you will never hear any of them say "oh, he's soo sweet, he's a great guy".. all of them at one point in time either got it from me, or I made no mistake about my intentions to give it to them.

Which sounds better?

What about backbreaker?

"Girl, he is soo sweet, and such a nice guy.. he took me on a date and I told him I wasn't interested, now we go out and I hang out with him every once in a while, he is such a good guy"

or

What about backbreaker?

"Well, I met him, we went on a date, and he was pretty blunt about him wanting to have sex with me.. I told him I was taken/wasn't interested right now, and he told me that's fine and that he would see me around.. haven't really heard from him sense.. when I see him he is still very nice to me, but I don't really ever talk to him... he moved on pretty quick"

The entire point is, women weren't ment to be "friends with". Women don't like sports. They don't have the same body parts as we do. Most don't like beer. Women have kids, Men Make Kids. Women are emotional, Men are Rational. Women go to clubs and bars to hang out with "the girls". Men go to clubs and Bars to get laid. women don't pacturaly like video games (most have learned to accecpt this)

Now, you being a testerone crazed young adult, what do women offer as friendship? I wouldn't trust a woman with a butterfinger, let alone any information I consider important... women love to talk to each other, and the more "drama" you can add to their lives the better.

Now, it's good to get to know women, it's good to have some things in common.. but the whole "women can be freinds" angle just doesn't work.. because, ,and this is my last point... any woman you meet, you meet and got to know becuase you wanted to **** her. If it were up to you, you would be ****ing her as we speak. She decided she didn't want to go that route, so you ended up being "friends" and now you have rationalized this as being okay, and you have "so much in common".

Everytime you look at your new "friend", you will not see a "friend" but a girl that you failed to have a relationshiip with.

i really think you "missed the buck" here Kojack,
you automaticlly assumed that being a friend or being "just
friends" is an excuse for AFC type behaviors :crackup:

not saying that you are taking the role but
you OBVIOUSLY see this situation ONLY from an AFC standpoint.
All the mumbo jumbo about the differences about men and woman? it really dosen't matter if the s*** works for you :crackup:
but i have been getting laid since i was 13
and doing the all the wrong things in the book..
guess what? still got laid :crackup:


( the "wrong things" meaning jerkish/a$$hole behaviors-
you didn't think EVERYONE that came here was an AFC from the beggining did you? i was a horrible person , nothing like a don juan but i still got laid like crazy, does it make it right?
it's just to illustrate that anything works -if being the devil with woman works..ANYTHING WORKS)

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by organizedconfusion

-let's just be friends is coming from the point of view of the guy-
as in the GUY is the one saying to the girl LET'S JUST BE FRIENDS...(David D has this in his series ,but i used it for YEARS before i even knew about it)

this post refers to BOTH types of girls as friends..
the one you CHOSE to be friends with (the first half)
and the LJBF chick ( the second half)
it shows you how to WIN in both situations




i really don't understand why being friends(as in me choosing to be HER friend NOT vice versa,duh! ) with a girl is soo bad in everyones eyes...

i have met more girls through girls as friends and their friends
and their other friends..girls are extensive networks.
and if you keep a "cool" rep and NOT a slimey playerish one-
they will be pretty much cool with you also.

here comes to part where i lost most of you

that "girl" that everyone has thats "just a friend"?

-c'mon guys,this here even implies that you are the one
doing the choosing and controling the frame already-
so where's the confusion?- you are trying to tell me
you guys don't have any girls you are just friends with
and not romanticlly interested in?-
i am NOT talking about the girls that LJBF'd you (though it's funny how some guys automaticlly assumed that ANY friend thats a girl is a LJBF girl!!) i am talking about a girl -ANY girl- you know and is friends with-



well, she most likely has 6 real good friends , that knows
about another 6 that knows about another 6...
that are involved in individual social circles involving even more girls...


END OF FIRST HALF OF POST






NOW, i talk about the value of still being friends with the
LJBF chick & the possible oppritunities, IF you are cool enough..

that one "friend" that everyone has?LJBF chick
could be a key to meeting alot of girls that you possibly never
even thought of or looked into ,because SHE just wanted to
be friends you let your EGO get in the way of the big picture..
you just dismissed her and the huge oppritunity that came along with her


think about this the next time a girl tells you she just wants
to be friends because that girl will most likley be your ticket
to meeting more girls than you could possibly imagine.

i am not saying to use her just to get to her friends,
i am saying actually be friends with her HAVE FUN ,you liked
her for a reason-just because you're not sleeping with her
or planning the future together dosen't mean you can't enjoy
eachothers company...she'll be more then happy to invite
"the girls" over for some beers and movies


c'mon guys, if i have to explain how to just be cool enough
to get this far ...and if thinking that guys & girls
have nothing in common in terms of just hanging out and
having a great time without sex or falling in love and getting
married...*sigh* well then, i guess i can't help everyone ,oh well



how the hell do i know all this s**?!
because i hooked up with a tight ass HB9 chick (what you all call) from an Ljbf chick ...and the HB9? a sex freak...nuff said
and the Ljbf chick? what about her? she actually hooked
me up with TWO chicks in one situation ..i happened to get along better
with the HB9.

:cheer: it's worked too many times for me to think otherwise :cheer:

everything i post i have used with 90% positive results,
thats why i am soo persistant to get my point accross-

 

[backbreaker]

regardless of how you slice it, the fact that you are her FRIEND, at least in your eyes, means you had to compromse yourself.

This isn't about taking what she will give you and making the best out of it.

I'ved dated/sexed enough women to know how they think, how they react to other women and to other men.

The point isn't to be "cool" with alot of chicks.. hell I have two best friends that I hardly have enough time for, I don't need friends, I want *****.

I'm a very cool guy.. I don't need a woman to tell my friends "he's cool".. I need a woman to tell her friends "he is great in bed" or "He's my idea BF" or "damn I wish I could get with him"

If you are a man friend, even if you are good looking ,and are somewhat of a DJ, ,she is going to automatically assume something is wrong with you if her GF isn't ****ing/daitng you.. wouldn't you do the same?

There are only really two ways to get a woman to introduce you to her friends.. First, is that you are actually DATING this woman.. they she will be all too happy to let everyone see her new prize.

The second is if she is chasing you... So she can show everyone what she prusmes she will have in due time.

Here is a REAL life Example for you.

The girl that bought me to this site.. I was friends with her for 10 years.. 10 YEARS.. not Days, not Months.. YEARS...

And in all honestly, the only reason I even stuck around that long was becuase I really coudln't blame her for not dating me.. I met her because I was dating her Best Friend. However if I could go back I would have cut her off after the first 2 months.

Out of these 10 years, you know how many times I have been hanging out with her friends? How many times I have met her friends besides the ones I already knew? If you said ZERO, you guessed RIGHT!



She had no problem coming over here.. we spent enough time together, that was never really a problem. However, let her say she is going to hang out with her friends and I happen to mention i might want to tag along.. sit back and watch the excuses fly.. I didn't really care becuase I wasn't interested in her friends.. I was interested in her, but it's just the principale of the matter.


I will say this to be honest however.. we had a talk not to long ago and something like this came up.. and she told me that she doesn't even take her BF's around her friedns, because every guy she has liked they have or have tried to steal them. So basically she didn't like me enough to date me, but didn't want anyone else dating me eihter.
On the other hand, countless times she would show up at my house, or apartment or mom's house.. wherever I was staying at the time, and hang out with my friends and I.


Now, at the end of the day I did end up getting with her, a nd we are friends/fbuddyies/talking/quizi relationship now... and I still don't really know her friends besides the ones I already know.

Other hand, this girl I was having sex with last year.. She was married, was a bartender. I met her on my B-Day, and we flirted for 3 months, unti lone day one thing led to another and I invited her to my house after she got off work and we started messing around.

The entire time, she went so far to even say that "even though I am taken, I still belong to you" and crap like that, all the time I was basically telling her "we are just having sex, so don't get your hopes up" I had her so whipped she was stopping by my apartment before she went home every night for some... not only that, she was brigning me free food home from work... which usually costs about $20-$25 a meal by myself when I go there, which was pretty often when I didn't feel like cooking.

Remember, this girl is married. Within 3 weeks of starting messing around with her, I met her Sister, I met every last one of her friends, had a key to her apartment once she got seperated from her husband (which I had nothign to do with, luck of the draw), was invited to Her birthday party, was invited to 2 of her friends birthday partys as her DATE, her Girlfriends had a slumber party at my apartment one night... all of them hot. Whenever some of her friends were getting together, doesn't matter where, she just HAD to have me tag along.

What's better? her and I stopped messing around after a while... still keep in touch, still very cool, ,we are just doing our own things right now... She had givin me so good references, that I have had sex with 2 of her "friends" since her and I stopped sleeping with each other and her sister, who is honestly hotter than she is, was seriously hitting on me when I saw her out at the club one night earlier this year.

I also ended up having sex a couple of times with a former coworker of hers who she wasn't really friends with, but said she "heard alot about me" from "some people"

 

[organizedconfusion]

i don't get it..the part about you hooking up with the
married chick is exactly the desired outcome of befriending
girls and getting into their social circle in the first place.

What you did is exactly what i just explained- i didn't throw
in the sex part because not everyone will get laid, but everyone
will most likely build up a larger social circle that'll be easier
to getting laid in the process.

that ten year "friendship" with the girl who introduced you to
this website?
i had one too, i call her the ICE QUEEN...
and i went through the exact same s*** so i can understand
how it may have struck a cord with you...


I actually did this type of thing with girls for years
(befriending them, trapping them emotionally while myself remaining elusive and branching out through their networks)
because i still sub-conciouslly resented ICE QUEEN,
i took it out on other girls to "make it even".
(this is the tactic i used but i DIDN'T disclose
what made it most effective)

let's just say i got really really really good at manipulation

 

[ScrewIt]

Originally posted by backbreaker
In theory, yes, there is nohting wrong with being friends.

But here is what is the problem.

Men and women dont' think alike, and if you get LJBF'ed.. you aren't really her friend, you just got rejected and she doesn't want to feel bad about telling you to get lost.

nono, backbreaker you got it all wrong. i think the main point the OP is trying to make is LJBF the girl(s) first. that way they'll be the ones who are trying to get into your pants.

and getting LJBF by a girl isnt too bad, as long as you dont take the rejection too personally or get mad at her for it, just move on...but keep her around, cuz she still has some uses.

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by ScrewIt
nono, backbreaker you got it all wrong. i think the main point the OP is trying to make is LJBF the girl(s) first. that way they'll be the ones who are trying to get into your pants.

and getting LJBF by a girl isnt too bad, as long as you dont take the rejection too personally or get mad at her for it, just move on...but keep her around, cuz she still has some uses.

that's exactly what I said.. I just don't m ove on, and wish the ***** would die.. I mean, I'm probalby not going to call her, but if she calls me or I call her I'll be civil and even nice, but I have women that actually want to spend time with me romanticaly.. I barely have enough time for them and my friends, I don't have enough time to spend with a girl that basically rejected me.

If he said you should LJBF the girl first, he should have made it clear, because he didn't.

On that however, like I just said, I have a pretty busy life... I don't get much sleep, girls I see always complain about me not having enough time for them, I don't get to see my family as much as Iw ould like.

Because of all of that, I don't have time to play LJBF games with a girl.

I don't have the luxury of "waiting around" spending fake ass quality time with her until she can hopefully a) come around or b) introduce me to some hot friends. I literarly don't have the time to.

I'm not blunt, or straightforwards towards women because that's m "style".. I mean, I am a guy and if a girl goes on a date with me, it's mu assumption that she knows why I invited her on a date, so there's no point in beating around the bush.. but I don't have time to wait 2/3 dates and hope she likes me... I barely have time to date new people


Look.. your life is a self fufilling dream.

There was a time, not too long ago, well, about 3 years ago, when I didn't have a woman call me. Period. the only time my phone ring was for business calls or one of my two best friends.

I then decided I was goign to make a change for the better. I got in shape. I kept myself busy. I always attempted to improve myself. I threw myself back into my companies work, because I had started to slack for a second.

Then, I was a very busy person before I knew what happened. I used to sit on the phone for hours with the girl that bought me to this site, letting her talk about whatever she wanted to talk about.

i stopped that, not because I didn't like her, but most importantly, talking to her for 2 hours would put a sledgehammer in my day's schedule.

When I finally started to meet women, I didn't have to play the "im busy" game... I WAS busy, and if she didn't like or respect the fact that I had a life, which most actually loved, she can go to hell, I don't need her because my life wasn't going to change.

When I would schedule a date, and it went as planned and I had a great time, I couldn't schedule another date for the next day... not because it's not RIGHT.. I didn't have the time to.

Even know, I know for the most part what I am doing everyday until next Saturday.. I know what dates I am going on, I know what days I am going to work, what days I am working out, what days I am going grocery shoopping, etc.

And if one of the girls are stupid enough to flake on me? You think I'm going to have a problem replacing her? Because they all understand my time is valuable.

I don't mean to come off as a pimp or anything like that.. I am a single man that is somewhat seeing 4-5 women right now... 3 more than the other 2.

If one of them blows me away and i decide "I wouldn't mind dating her", I will stop seeing the others for the time being and date her exclusively.

There is one that is ahead of the others, but not by enough to where I think she has to be my GF.

Now, the point of all this was... What kind of guy are you? The kind that HAS THE TIME to LJBF a girl, to play games with her in hopes she can hook you up with other women?

Because friends, take time. That's why I only have 2.

Or are you the type of person that is so busy in l ife, living your live to it's fullist potential that you can't afford not to go for what you want, take it and if she doesn't agree, move on because you have more important things to do then to keep female friends in hope that she can hook you up with someone else.

I will say this about my personality... I work for myself.. I can easily work 12 hours a day on average for a week. I work out every other day. I run sprints every day, I eat 6 meals a day, I always try to read something on a daily basis, I practice the piano every other day, I do volonteer work, I am in the big brother/big sister program which I always make time for every week, and I love college football and Pro Basketball.. I can live without pro basketball however..college football isn't an option.

I also try to babysit my little sister (5) at least 1 night every other week. My 15 year old brother stays with me a couple of nights a month...

Oh, and my two best friends take up about 2/3 nights of my week, which I don't mind whatsoever, wouldn't have it any other way.

All this is because, I keep myself busy. I don't have time for "friends" or to have her introduce me to one of her friends, rather I LJBF her or she LJBF's me.

I am not against LJBFing girls.. If I just am not intersted in her for some reason, sure... but i'm not going to spend time with her like she is really my friend, I don't know her like that.

The whole point is, yes, it's BETTER to LJBF a girl then to be LJBFed... that's not new news... however, neither is better than staying busy, living your life like it's supposed to be lived, because if you do that, you don't have time for neither.

 

[diablo]

DJD...

 

[organizedconfusion]

you're still seeing it in the wrong light...

it's NOT as time consuming as you make it out to be.

and you're not trying to "play games" or "beat around the bush",
it's soley to create a social circle-
she is the gate keeper...

thats it, hang out and just "chill", even bone her if
you got enough game ,nuff said
it's all basiclly just about expanding your social
cirlce and it dosen't take your entire life.
going out to a bar, drinking with them etc.
it's dosen't have to be a huge ordeal...

thats the point i have been trying to get at,
you seem to only be interested in NOT making it
work for you


being busy has NEVER stopped me from fitting in time
if i wanted to ever just hang out with a chick.
focusing on solely boning just her seems a little
just short sided-when you can have her and more
:cheer:
it really dosen't take much dude , and i haven't really
put much thought into the process...
it's just something i either i do or i don't.

in my free time;
bone her, hang out or just stay home and play video
games by myself are all the same to me.
if i do it -i do it, if i don't i don't make reasons why it dosen't
work for me...but then that's just how i operate




i understand your point of view, and i am not trying you
to convince you in anyway. if it dosen't work for
then what can i say?

works for me just fine and this is the exact tip i have used
successfully and will still use if i ever need to expand my social circle ammong woman again-once i start going out regularly.

P.S.
being "cool" with a chick is the password for "it's cool
he's down to f*ck & it's not a big deal & he's not looking for
a GF or a wife" and thats exactly what gets passed down
the grapevine...

and from my experiance it's more important to be "cool"
and keep it "cool" because it cuts straight through the BS and you could just hook up easily without having to deal with the BS.
it usually takes just boning the one girl you got and thats it..
if you can'r figure out what comes next then i give up,
don't even try it!! :crackup:

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by backbreaker

Men and women dont' think alike, and if you get LJBF'ed.. you aren't really her friend, you just got rejected and she doesn't want to feel bad about telling you to get lost.
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Wait.. wait, let me back up and reinterate the fact that 95% of the time, you really aren't her friend in the first place, you are a guy who tried to talk to her, you didn't "do it" for some reason to her and she isn't sexually attracted or romanteically interested in you.

The only time you can get a woman friend to let her introduce you to her "girlfrinds' is if you have what I call a "postiive refference"

Otherwise, all her GF's are going to think, or even say, "damn, if he is such a good guy, why don't YOU take him?"

Even if the girl you were LJBF'ed by.. say has a BF, and you still stick around, it still does no good. If you were a good catch, at worst she would keep you around her and her only to booast her ego or a fallback plan.. beause GF's steal each other's GF's man like kids steal candy... She isn't going to want to share this great catch, e ven though you aren't dating, with her friends...

And that's just IF she likes you, ,which she probably doesn't.

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The entire point is, women weren't ment to be "friends with". Women don't like sports. They don't have the same body parts as we do. Most don't like beer. Women have kids, Men Make Kids. Women are emotional, Men are Rational. Women go to clubs and bars to hang out with "the girls". Men go to clubs and Bars to get laid. women don't pacturaly like video games (most have learned to accecpt this)

Now, you being a testerone crazed young adult, what do women offer as friendship? I wouldn't trust a woman with a butterfinger, let alone any information I consider important... women love to talk to each other, and the more "drama" you can add to their lives the better.

Now, it's good to get to know women, it's good to have some things in common.. but the whole "women can be freinds" angle just doesn't work.. because, ,and this is my last point... any woman you meet, you meet and got to know becuase you wanted to **** her. If it were up to you, you would be ****ing her as we speak. She decided she didn't want to go that route, so you ended up being "friends" and now you have rationalized this as being okay, and you have "so much in common".

Everytime you look at your new "friend", you will not see a "friend" but a girl that you failed to have a relationshiip with.

THIS IS SOME GOOD SH1T RIGHT HERE! YOU BROKE IT DOWN BEAUTIFULLY! BACKBREAKER I AGREE WITH YOU 100%! SOMEONE STICKY THIS THREAD SOMEWHERE!

I have yet to meet a guy who was LBJF by a girl and for her to set him up with another girl equally or more attractive then her. It ain't going to happen. Deep down she doesn't want to see you do better then her's because that will reinforce a notion that she might have made a mistake while she secretly wish for your faliure.

You are better off making more cool guy friends if you want to meet more girls because they will know who to set you up with!!! You tell your boy you want a girl with nice ass and pretty face and he will ask around! you tell a girl the same thing and she will be thinking " wait if I introduce him to a girl then she will take away my time with him and I love my emotional tampon teddy bear so the answer is nO!!!!" but she will tell you she has the perfect girl for you and you will end up with a warpig with glasses.

I will say it again :When they LJBF you, they don't want the best for you nor really care about you.

DjDamage

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by DJDamage
THIS IS SOME GOOD SH1T RIGHT HERE! YOU BROKE IT DOWN BEAUTIFULLY! BACKBREAKER I AGREE WITH YOU 100%! SOMEONE STICKY THIS THREAD SOMEWHERE!

I have yet to meet a guy who was LBJF by a girl and for her to set him up with another girl equally or more attractive then her. It ain't going to happen. Deep down she doesn't want to see you do better then her's because that will reinforce a notion that she might have made a mistake while she secretly wish for your faliure.

You are better off making more cool guy friends if you want to meet more girls because they will know who to set you up with!!! You tell your boy you want a girl with nice ass and pretty face and he will ask around! you tell a girl the same thing and she will be thinking " wait if I introduce him to a girl then she will take away my time with him and I love my emotional tampon teddy bear so the answer is nO!!!!" but she will tell you she has the perfect girl for you and you will end up with a warpig with glasses.

I will say it again :When they LJBF you, they don't want the best for you nor really care about you.

DjDamage

uh,the last HB10 LBJF chick hooked me up with a HB9 and
we f*cked liked rabbits -
she actually hooked me up with 2 in that paticular situtation,
but i choose the one i get along better with...



am i the only one that this has happened to?
i'm not bragging just stating the facts.

just how many guys have been LJBF'd before exactly?
alot of people are talking as if they've been through the
situation one too many times considering the
details and explanations behind it.

i've been through my share of LJBF's -but only enough to
know better allow it to happen again (ICE QUEEN)
with that in mind this tip is golden.

of course if i look at from a failuristic approach-
i'd guess i'd find faults too...but that just goes for anything