Journal Entries-120 approaches/40 days-Week 1/Day 1

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Just out of curiousity, how old are you?

I don't think that David Bowie line is working. The girls seem to all know it's canned and they are reacting negatively towards it. But it's good to see you're up for the challenge.
 

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Originally posted by david90
i don't get why ur not # closing.:down:
I wasn't thinking on my feet for the 2 set because I didn't want to # close I wanted to fu*k close them. I don't think I could have # closed them but in 20/20 I think I could have fu*k closed them. I am working on approach, opening, bridge, then close. That is a lot to work on I think. So...I am finding what works best to adopt a style. That is my take on what a bootcamp is about.
 

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Originally posted by I_Only_Live_Once
Just out of curiousity, how old are you?

I don't think that David Bowie line is working. The girls seem to all know it's canned and they are reacting negatively towards it. But it's good to see you're up for the challenge.
I am old enough to fu*k young girls and young enough to fu*k old girls.

Curiousity is the death of committment. I would suggest you find posts by juggler.

I agree the David Bowie line is not working that good, it seems the situational opener which I have used a bunch works best for me. C&F has got me the booty, and the direct approach has got me the booty also. Who knows? When I am done with boot camp I guess I will go to the front lines and do 10 approaches a day for 40 days. It's all about practice, practice and more practice to gain skill.
 

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day 6
Started out in San Francisco, Haight Street Fair, about a mile long or more of booths, and live music at each end. Fu*king bunch of wierdos hanging out there along with a bunch of HB's. Was a little tired, did a 10 mile ride the day before on my mountain bike.

#1-HBtall-we are trolling the street at the same speed and about two minutes later I open with...(Poster on wall at booth has about 1000 faces)

PUA: I think I saw your pic in the poster.
HB: Mumbles something, touches my arm, smiles
PUA: Stalls
HB: Goes into booth
PUA: Walks away

Can I use the excuse I was tired and not thinking? Fu*k, she liked me. I use PUA because it is where I am going, not where I am at. I am programing my mind to a different me.

#2-HB7-Walking in the opposite direction

PUA: Nice looking dress...did you buy it new?
HB: I did, I bought it in bo0pu;lkj.
PUA: Keeps walking away

Can I use the excuse I was tired and not thinking?

Over to San Rafael, Italian Street Painting Festival, but in Chalk. Time for our weekly lair meeting, eventually we go to surge because our NLP trainer is pushing us to do something. He is showing us that the lair meetings are not for BS sessions and we need to do something productive. We now have an assignment for next weeks meeting thanks to NLP trainer. Cool sh*t.

NLP trainer assigns wing to pick targets for me.

#3-HB7.5-See her trolling around and eventually she is chatin it up with a chalk artist. Me and wing pull up close to them and after about 2 minutes, wing prods me to open the artist, then he leaves. I stand there for about a minute and...leave. I have been a situational opener and I wasn't feeling the opener so...I didn't open. I had one for the artist and stalled. I probably would have stalled after the opener also. Need to work on that juggler group theory amongst other things.

When we got back the trainer asked me about wing and was I needing more proding? I believe that would have been good. Wait till this Thursday Wing MF'er, I am going to make you open all 2 sets.

#4-HBcamera-Taking pics of art

PUA: Mumbles some sh*t about taking pics, art is cool.
HB: Yes it is
PUA: So you a photo grapher?
HB: I am
PUA: A professional?
HB: Yes
PUA: Ok, if you are good, I'll let you take my pic?
HB: Laughs
PUA: Stand over here and take my pic, let me take my hat off.
HB: Takes pic
PUA: Can you email it to me because I want to post it online so all the girls could see it and want to be with me.
HB: Laughs
PUA: Do you have a pen to write down my email?
HB: No
PUA: Well, it's pretty easy...it's bla, bla
HB: I think I can remember that
PUA: What's your email so I know who is sending me email and I won't delete it as junk.
HB: Stalls
PUA: You will email me that pic won't you?
HB: I will

I know what your thinking...Make the ho say no!

Should have amped up to future date photo session then into # close.

#5-HB8-give her an extra point for personality. Debriefing with group about fractionate and HB8 trolls into cafe, sits directly in EC with my view. This is a big cafe and she could have picked any number of open tables, even ones out of my view. hmmm?

PUA: That's a nice looking skirt
HB: Thanks
PUA: I have to go use the restroom and get back to my friends. see ya
HB: bye
PUA: After RR, walk back up to her and...hey, guess what?
HB: Laughs
PUA: My hat goes with your skirt. (I look like a Columbian drug lord)
HB: smiles, and high 5's me.
PUA: I am thinking...wow, I am totally blow away, you mean I am getting personality? Will Robinson: Fractionate, fractionate. If you don't know who WR is...well, he is lost in space.
PUA: Walks back to friends.
HB: Stays a minute longer, then gets up, walk out, I call to her, but don't leave my position, wing gets up and follows her out. hmmmm, scold wing.

#6-HBdog-Wing surged her earlier with..."Wow, those guys are so cute". (Pets mini dogs)

PUA: I decide to do the same surge. Wow, those guys are so cute
HB: Thanks
PUA: What kind are they?
HB: Bla, bla
PUA: So, do they sleep with you???
HB: They do...well not in the bed on top of the bed
PUA: Fluff for another minute. Got to get them closes working.

Day 7

Start out a booksigning. Several HB's and one chose the seat right next to me even though there were plenty of empty seats.

Could'nt get in the frame to open her. Walked around after the talk and opened one HB.

#1-HB8-Yikes, I like it when they wear those clothes that make their brea*ts stick out

PUA: Do you think David Bowie is hot?
HB: Yes, totally, then starts to leave the store.

Walked around thinking about opening HB next to me and at this time she was in convo with two women. Decide to leave.

Go to Borders. Walk in an some married HB EC's me. Get my drink and open with...
PUA: I notice you are looking at all the people walking in, then writing something down...are you taking some kind of survey?
HB: No, I am writing a book on Mountain Bike training.
PUA: Oh, Do you think DB's hot?
HB: I don't know
PUA: Go into DB, trip over action figure, dog chasing me routine.
HB: Laughing, and making some strange facial expressions about my story, like she was interested. Though it was funny that a little puddle would be chasing me.
PUA: Find out she is writing a book on Mountain Biking and is a MB trainer. Fluff for about 10 minutes. Then ask her for her card.
HB: Hands me card

I am thinking...what is this married woman doing at the book store writing her book?

#3-HB7married&Ug-Open ug, but 7 jumps in.

PUA: Do you think DB...
UG: No
PUA: What do you mean know, the other day I was over my firends house...bla, bla routine
HB: I like that part about the DB action figure.
PUA: It belonged to my firends daughter
HB: Waks around, then we get into this convo about how she dosen't like dogs and I bla, bla about the recent dog attack that nixed a 12 y.o. boy last week in S.F. We fluff a little more then she goes back to ug, I decide to leave.

My focus for the time being is...to make them laugh during the first 5 minutes as suggested. I believe it is key.

Lots to learn. My plan is to Open, tell story, ies, qualify, close. I can open... it's about all that goes along with the rest of the process to learn skills, is my reason for bootcamp. It is not just to gain confidence.

Listening to the DYD cd today, the guest speaker quantifies repetition. For example...when you bring the girl over to your place have a video that you have rented a bunch of times but she doesn't know that and you make it seem like you are guessing at what is going to happen next, she thinks you are a genius.
 
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week 3/day 1

So I go to Border's book store last night and ged myself a cup of juice. The HB6 at the counter waiting on me is giving me vibes. I decide to open her and see if I can make her laugh.

#1-HBw

PUA: Orders juice and opens with the usual DB opener, goes into story. HBw is lauging and showing interest, decide to grab drink and troll around but not before HBw...
HBw: Have a good evening

I disqualified her because she just did not fit my descript of someone I would want to date. I do believe I could have fu*k closed her right then and there. My reason for believing this is through my experience when a woman touches you or wished a good anything, it is time to close.

The past two weeks have been a good experience for me because of the help from an awesome mentor at the arizonapua site. I got lots of feedback but, this one guy kept with it and showed me an important aspect to the game that I nor him might not have been aware of at the time.

I am talking about Mystery's M3 model or I think he calls it the I3 model now. If you know where you are at with the HB then you will know exactly what to do. If you don't know where you two are within the model, you will stall or hit a sticking point.

Case in point: When I seduced the HB two weeks ago we were in the friendship stage (unknown to me) and I blurred out "I just want to fu*k you right now moving her into the intimacy stage, strange as it may seem, she saw that as being intimate. The next stage is arousal! wtf? See how easy this can be? When you know where you are at with the HB you will know what to say and do. Sounds fu*kin simple doesn't it...Jethrow?

To all you guys out there participating in your own bootcamp, especially the DJ one. I would suggest you give up the "hi" routine and learn how to open, attract and qualify, you will get to the end result much quicker than if you just go out to practice your confidence building rutine. :woo:

The I3 model:

Attract:

Open-Say something interesting
Attract-Have an interesting story or stories/make her laugh
Qualify-Tyler Druden or Juggler (look up posts on this) be the prize

Comfrot & Trust:

Rapport-Keep her talking and get her to feel comfort/trust
Friendship-Do things together/call each other/intimate details
Intimacy-Speak, kiss, touch, feel, smell, taste/ya know???

Seduce:

Arousal-Speak deeper, touch deeper, look deeper
Last minute resistance-Slow down or back off for a few minutes then resume.
Sex: ? wtfit (what the fu*k is that)?

After a while I was reading in the book store and decided to leave because I did a bunch of approaches on Sunday.
 

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Day 2

Attended the Tyler Durden mini seminar in SF last night. It was a kick, the dude has tight game. Got one of my wings motivated. Did one surge after the meeting. We were looking for something to eat, it was late, walked into Taco Bell and were waiting for a friend from the meeting, not a wing, but belongs to the lair list.

HB7 standing there with a small dog.

PUA: Hey, where did you get that funny looking dog at?
HB: Lots of people have said something about my dog, but no one has ever said anything like that. Smiles, wants to act upset but, it isn't happening.
PUA: I stalled, I was tired. I can use that excuse because I did a 10 mile bike ride today and 3 mi. of the ride was uphill in the dirt.
HB: Goes to get her food and says something about my comment to a couple of guys at the counter. Couldn't hear what she was saying but, it sure looked suspicious.

I think she liked me. Went to get something to eat at the pizza joint after that.

Day 3

Opened a 4 set with a mini cold read before we went to Borders.

Go to Borders with my wing because it's raining and the Farmer's Market got cancelled. A little surprised that wing stayed and wanted to surge. I guess that kick in the but he got last night from TD got him motivated.

We walked around for a little while then settled into some chairs at the coffee shop inside Borders. We sat there and talked about body language and the differences between TD and a student at the seminar last night.

Wing noticed TD never raised his hands above his belt while talking and the student in the audience would point fingers while talking as if wanting to gain rapport with someone but, we decided he possibly could have been looking for acceptance. Takling about you and him and that made him look Beta or something like that.

TD was talking about himself, his values, which made him look Alpha.

TD pointed out that when you go into bootcamp, make approachs you meet all types of different woman who have their subtle ways and bootcamp will show you how to be aware of their subtle ways through the process of surging for about 5 hours a day.

Anyway we are sitting there working on BL and there is a 4 set of Married women right in front of us. I ask wing to notice something about 4 set that he could comment on as a mini cold read. Wing could'nt notice anything so after a couple of minutes I open them with some BS about who knows who because of the way their chairs are situated. They seemed impressed, decide to egect.

#1-HBblonde

PUA: DB routine till the end.
HB: Wasn't showing any interest, walks away
PUA: Personality is the key according to TD

#2 HBmarried
PUA: DB routine till the end
HB: Laughing and saying she loves DB but, man not far away.

#3-HB6.5
PUA: DB routine till the end, then asks for a piece of gum.
HB: I left my gum at home.
PUA: Wasn't thinking on my feet. Was she trying to close me?
HB: Walks away

Ok, so I got to work on qualifying and getting closes.

Wing and myself made a lot of progress with BL and tone. We sat their an critqued each other for about an hour. Fading away...................wing made some approaches, it was cool.
 

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When a girl is at a book store and has any book in her hand whether it is open or not. Ask her if she is reading your autobiography. Of course you need to do this with congruence to pull it off.
 

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Originally posted by stalluproar
When a girl is at a book store and has any book in her hand whether it is open or not. Ask her if she is reading your autobiography. Of course you need to do this with congruence to pull it off.
What is congruence? How would I be congruent to her reading my autobiography?
 

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Re: I'm loving this

Originally posted by swampwiz
Your confidence is boundless. Getting the nerve to talk to them in the first place is 90% of the battle. You might be striking out, but you're going for it. You'll never catch any fish until you put the fishing line into the lake.

You seem to be missing some opportunities with the HB <7, but you probably are shooting for something up the scale, and therefore are missing out on something that you are not that motivated to get in the first place.

Your convos seem to be better than in earlier posts. The episode with the photographer was good.
Thanks for the complimnet. Nothing to post for last night as I got food poison and stayed home. Will post tonight or tomorrow, still feeling a little sick. Went to a Tyler Durden mini seminar and will post notes later as a new topic.


Off-Topic

Now for the great epiphany I had while driving down the freeway today...

Bootcamp is everyday. wtf, you though you were going to get off easy? Get out there and surge. What's your alternative? I think I will name it RR. (Remote Romance) meaning? You can't get pus*y through your remote control.
 

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week 3/day 4,5,6

Day 4

Sick with food poison, stay home.

Day 5

Still feeling a little ill, but go out anyway. Run into HB last night that went snowbaord with me when she was 17 and now is of age. We talked a little a couple of weeks ago and she kept making references to sex and that there was this animal attraction between us, but I am still stalling because she has some other things going on that make me feel like I should stay away. Anyway last night she avoids me but notices me, which I think is cool and again...I am thinking...don't get into relationships with women that have more problems than you do, even a ons.

Go to Borders and troll around for a little while. Run into wing because he stops there on way home thinking I might be there. First set on a friend of wing, she doesn't know wing is there but, I am thinking she does because they work in the same field and he was at a seminar but, she wasn't there. Think I took too many drugs at some point in my life? How did I get to this conclusion?

#1-HBtall

PUA: Hey, do you think girls like DB?
HB: I don't know
PUA: I go into my DB trip over dog rutine, then...we should get together sometime?
HB: yea, maybe
PUA: How do you think we could do that?
HB: I don't know, I can't
PUA: I am thinking I am not that interested anyway so I go. She is somewhere around an HB7 anyway.

#2-HB7-I am sitting at chair reading a book on how to win at casino craps and she walks by, barely sees me, I barely see her and she starts to hover. I think about approach but stall, she keeps hover, I think about appraoch, get up, put book down and...

PUA: Is that your son?
HB: No, why
PUA: Well, you are wearing an orange shirt and he is wearing a orange cap and I thought you were related. (****in stupid ****, I use it a lot, girls love geeks)
HB: Laughs
PUA: Fluff for about a minute, then...You and me should get together sometime and have coffee.
HB: ok
PUA: What's your number?
HB: I don't have a pen
PUA: They probably have one over there
HB: Oh, wait, I have one. Writes number on slippery paper
PUA: Hey, um your number smeared off when I grabbed the paper from you.
HB: Oh, that's good
PUA: Here, write it on this. Writes # on my paper.
HB: This is the first time I have given my number to a guy in a bookstore.
PUA: That's cool, hey I got to get back to reading my book on gambling, fluff, fluff, bye.
HB: See ya

Day 6

Either you got it (chrisma), or you don't and I got it, but sometimes I don't got it. Time for our weekly lair meeting, today's meeting is in SF at the North Beach Street Fair. Get there early and go to live music stage at park. Good band and people are far from stage sitting in a half circle about 40 feet from stage.

people> ( 40 feet ! <stage No guards, or gurard rails so I am thinking how come these lame people are not up front where the action is?

I get right in the center of the stage in the field and cross my arms while holding a quart bottle of water, spread my feet and stand there like I want to draw these people into close to me and guess what. All of a sudden some people start to dance close to me, then more people, then the whole 40 ft area is full of people around me. I am holding my bottle of water up and shaking it at the band and all these girls start to dance around me. One girl I let throw a beach ball and she gives me a big hug right in front of her BF. Two other HB's are a little off to the side but get closer and hover a circle around me, then stop 6 inches away and dance next to me. I wanted to grab one of them and kiss her but I didn't. I am sure I could have gotten her to kiss me.

My point? Sometimes you have to act outrageous and not care what others think. If you can do that, then you will know that you don't have to wear pimp clothes to attract attention, you just have to know that you can attract attention if you want to command a room. My other point? Be outrageous where ever you go, what ever you do. Draw people in crowds to you. Make yourself noticed. The best way to do this is to have fun things to do or hobbies, i.e. bike ride, chess player, artist, skateboarder, roller blade, build model cars, make and fly paper airplanes, be ****ing stupid, it will get you more looks and attention than anything else you can do in public without a lot of effort. Having things to do or play carries out into other parts of life? Get it? If you don't PM me and I will send you my phone number so you can call me and I will tell you stories of the extreme things I do that attracts attention.

On with the sarge...

Have lair meeting then walk to dinner. While walking to dinner I open about 4 sets.

#1-HBrio-door person at eating place. (Can't spell restaruant) Where's the spell checker at? Any one seen that moderator? I know he said there would be too many acronyms but spell checker would get use to them...that is lame.

PUA: Is this a good place to eat
HB: Yea come on in
PUA: I don't know, what do you guys think? (wings)
WG's: Let's look around more
PUA: What's so good about this place
HB: I don't know
PUA: Well, if you don't know then I think you should buy us all dinner?
HB: I can't, not on the money I make
PUA: ok then, if you can't do that then I think you should take me on a tour of SF on your day off?
HB: Maybe
PUA: You guys ready to go?
WG's: One starts to EV her
PUA: I am thinking I am hungry, I wish this wing would hurry up
PUA: Wing finishes and we start to walk away, I EC HB as I am walking away for about 20 seconds and she EC's me like right though my soul. I am thinking this girl wants it bad. You ever get that feeling like you could **** her right there on the spot if no one cared?

#2-HBgothic-notice her walking around earlier and I think she notices me because after all there about 20,000 people at the street fair but, I want all the HB's to notice me that I want to notice. (your all on ****in notice till further review, ya hear me, now get out there and sarge)? <alter ego speaking

PUA: Hey, do you think girls like DB? (She is sitting down eating)
HB: I think his wife likes him
PUA: Bla, bla about something, don't remember, start to walk away and..."do you like me? in a loud voice because I am about 20 feet away.
HB: smiles and raises her arms up like, 'I don't know, maybe"

#3-HB10-Before HBgothic, wing and me go up to resturanat, he is talking to here about food and I walk up, look at her move head to right, she moves head to left, I move head to left she moves head to right. (we are facing each other) this goes on for about 30 seconds, we are smiling at each other, I fluff her a little, we leave, eat dinner, then walk back because cars are parked in her direction.

When we get back there is a guy there trying to PU her. We stop and I talk to wing then think...I have to open guy.

PUA: (to guy) This probalby isn't a good place to eat. (logical, blows him out)
Guy: I don't know
PUA: Is this a good place to eat?
HB: Yes
Guy: What do you want a good place to eat or are you looking for a girl to go out with?
PUA: Both
Guy: Signals with hands to me towards HB
PUA: So, hey, I want to take you out?
HB: What?
PUA: I want to go out with you
HB: Mumbles something about being here for 4 days and lives in hotel, doesn't have a phone number and doesn't remember name of hotel she is staying in. She has a Russian accent and doesn't speak english very well.
But, understands that I want her.
PUA: What time do you get off?
HB: 8:30
PUA: ok, I can't take you out tonight because I am with my buddies and we have to go but, I will come back this week and take you out.
HB: Ok

Wing thinks I should go back an get her. Right after that there is another HB10 walking across the street and wing says..."Go get her or something like that". I say Ok.

#4-HB10

PUA: Nice looking hair
HB: Thanks
PUA: Is that your real hair color?
HB: no, I dye it
PUA: Oh, so this week you are a blonde, last week you were a redhead and the week before you were a brunette?
HB: no, it's always blonde, I dye it blonde all the time.
PUA: I am practicing my persuasion skills and...do you have another piece of gum?
HB: no
PUA: It smell like dentyne?
HB: It's big red
PUA: Smells good. Can I smell your *****?
HB: Yes

Not!, on the last two line items, but hey, wtf, who knows maybe it would have worked. Just thought I would throw in a little humor. She crosses the street and walks into a bar.

Wing says I should go back and get first HB10, I don't but, it is after 8:30 and she is not standing outside rusturant trying to solict customers, that is a good sign, she did say she got off at 8:30. He also suggested I should go back to HBrio and work it with a little convo for a couple of weeks.

Did some other approaches last night at Borders with two coffee baristas. One interaction ended with me shouting across the parking lot at one...PUA:"What are you doing later" HB: nothing

Wing suggested I should have closed her. In conclusion I think I need to be working on closes during bootcamp. ck
 

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:D Just some pointers to help you that I can see...

Don't mention Davie Bowie.

Don't ask a girl if she if following you, I don't like that line for some reason.

Don't approach from behind

Don't Beg a girl you just met for a kiss

Stop acting pushy

Tbh I wouldn't use lots of your fact lines or random topical question lines, it seems it's alot better just to go up and chat to a girl about them or where their are or wat they are doin rather than use gimmicks.

..apart from that keep your the good work it's, It's reading stuff like this that is making me decide to do my own approach journal cause I get to nervous to aproach so I want to try and boost my confidence. I have respect for anyone who gets out there and does this **** :)
 

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Started out the night with a neg on HBa at the ckeckout in food store. Not part of BC assignment but, in the past HBa EC's me and hovers at times.

PUA: Your moving kinda slow, you always move slow, don't you?
HB: Smiles big and say somethhing like, oooh.

I like that look she gave me, ya know that look, like, you jerk, in a fun way. HBb checkout comes over and starts talking to HBa about phones or something. I had the preception afterwards that the three of us could have been a couple.

Eating soup outside cause I am going to booksigning and it is getting late, must have been HB's night out cause they were out tonight.

#1-HB7-I see her in store, I am outside eating, she walks past my table out of her way, hmm? She leaves, looks like she is getting in her car to go, then walks back sits at table next to me and opens her to go sushi.
I finish and decide to approach.

PUA: Can I ask you a question?
HB: Sure
PUA: Who do you like better...Batman or Spiderman?
HB: Spiderman
PUA: Bla, bla, costume sucks, I like Batman better.
HB: bla, bla spiderman.
PUA: If you could be superhero who would you be?
HB: Bla, bla
PUA: What powers would you have?
HB: Bla, bla
PUA: The reason I am asking is my neighbors dog thinks it a rooster and barks at 7:00am everymorning and I can't seem to fix the problem but, I was wondering if someone with superhuman powers could solve this problem?
HB: Thinks it is funny, forget what she says but, she seems like she is into the convo. We fluff for a minute or more and I am thinking I could
# close but, that is not part of the assignment. Or is it?
PUA: I have to go, nice talking to you.
HB: Says goodbye

Go to booksigning, walk in HBmarried working there but in coffee shop, I stop to get water, she is close to water area, I grab cup and ask her to pour me a cup of water. She declines, I say, "come on you could pour me a cup of water' She declines again and states that she works in the book store and that she is not a waitress. I say "does that mean you can't be nice to me and pour me a cup of water"? She looks upset with a smile. I smile back at her. She goes back behind the counter at bookstore. I go to booksigning, crowded but, not into it, so I leave for Borders.

Must have been HB's night out at Border's.

#2-HB9-Saw her there the other night with a scrubby looking guy. Thinking she is there with him again so I don't approach for about two minutes. She starts to pick up glasses and keys off table so I decide to approach. There is something about moving right in, I hesitated and because I did I lost time to chat it up with her.

PUA: Can I ask you a question? I need a woman's opinion.
HB: ok
PUA: Who do like better Batman or Spiderman?
HB: Spiderman
PUA: Bla, bla Batman better, go into rutine about neighbor's dog.
HB: Maybe you should get the dog a hen?
PUA: Laughs a little, hey that's good.
HB: Laughs also, Fluff a little, starts to leave

Didn't close because I am practicing approach. Thinking I should go for the Extra Challenge for Advanced Guys, because I don't have much approach anxiety. What do you guys think?

#3-HBmarried

PUA: Can I ask you a question? I need a woman's opinion.
HB: Sure
PUA: Batman or Spiderman
HB: Batman, he has more gadgets.
PUA: Fluff for a few more minutes, then I eject.

#4-HB10-Reading magazines

PUA: I need a woman's opinion, Who do you like better Batman or Spiderman?
HB: Batman
PUA: I like Spiderman better, he is moves around better.
HB: Batman has more gadgets
PUA: Yea, but, his clothes are black, kinda has this evil image. I have this strange theroy about women who wear black clothing, but I shouldn't tell you about it. Do you wear black clothing?
HB: I do sometimes
PUA: Fluff for a few minutes then I go for the AFC close. "We should get together sometime and talk about this"?
HB: No
PUA: No?
HB: No thanks
PUA: Whatda mean no thanks, what kinda answer is that, smiles
HB: Smiles, doesn't say anything
PUA: Walks away, thinking this girl is hot, how could I let her get away.
She EC's me, I EC her back while I am walking away.

#5-HBmarried-Sitting across the way reading the post on this weeks assignments which btw is about 30 pages. Seat opens up next to her, I move my stuff next to her then go surge for a minute, this is actually when I do #3, go to RR, then back to chair.

PUA: I think I will call my self Super Dave. That seems like a good name for me, I will be a super hero. No, wait a minute, someone else has that name.
HB: Laughs
PUA: Batman or Spiderman?
HB: I don't know, neither but, my son likes Batman, he has a bunch of BM stuff.
PUA: That's cool, fluff, fluff for about 10 minutes. Well gotta go so you can get back to your studing, have fun w/school and stuff.

#6-HBmarried-Situational Opener #2, couldn't help it, seemed to easy to open with. Not wearing any shoes.

PUA: Nice looking socks
HB: I like them, (or something like that). I'm not wearing shoes because I have blisters from salsa dancing.
PUA: Batman or Spiderman
HB: bla, bla
PUA: Fluff for about 5 minutes, then eject, not into the married or maybe practicing approach.

One thing is for sure. 20 weeks x 36 approaches = 720, yikes!

What have I learned? I need to adapt my opener to the situation...i.e. bookstore, mall, club, etc, etc. The other thing is I think I need to take notes after each set because I am challenged with remembering some of tonight's events.
 

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What have I learned? I need to adapt my opener to the situation...i.e. bookstore, mall, club, etc, etc. The other thing is I think I need to take notes after each set because I am challenged with remembering some of tonight's events. [/B]

Yeah, your doing really good keeping up with the approaches...It's not that hard really if you think bout it to come up with easy openers to the situation. If you are in a book store just a few of the things you could do is..

Ask them about a book they are looking at, say if they are a particular style or author ask them something about it like have you read much stuff by that particualr author (could be because someone has recommend that author to you or that you have read it ) or ask them something to do with the section they are looking at and relate it back to you some way eps if it's a section your interested in. Try asking them if they can recomend anything to you on a particular subject because you are just getting in to it and they look like they are someone whos interested in it.

Also do could try saying you noticed they were looking at a particular book, and perhaps you could recommend this particular book to them blah blah... Other things that can be used there or just anywhere such as asking them bout something they are wearing, either make a joke bout it or compliement them on it etc

That Spiderman / Batman topic conversation does actually look like you got some rapport going with those girls, but think about it..If some complete stranger came up to you and starting talking about Batman / Spiderman out of no where what would you think of them? cause tbh I'd think it was a bit weird
 

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One more thing,.. try and close!

the only reason you aren't is because before u'd go up to them and say something like hi! are you single straight away :D

think about it, try and close. Just remember to make sure you have built some rapport with them 1st and that you feel good vibes there before you even try closing on anyone.
 

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It seems to me like your approaches are lacking direction. I think you should concentrate on leveraging conversation towards F or # close.
 

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you got balls so that's good. I'm no expert but i think its time u take it to the next level and # close to see how u do. Also, IMO no more what's your opinion on this and that. It seems unnatural to me. I'm no DJ but that's just my perspective.
 

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Originally posted by rockitck


What have I learned? I need to adapt my opener to the situation...i.e. bookstore, mall, club, etc, etc. The other thing is I think I need to take notes after each set because I am challenged with remembering some of tonight's events.
Haven't contributed for a while but I thought I would on this thread as I've found it very inspiring. I commend you on having the guts to approach but I do think you should work more on situational openers. I haven't like the canned openers about David Bowie and Batman/Spiderman.

For example, you told the women you needed a female opinion and asked whether they preferred Batman or Spiderman. Isn't that a question that one would normally ask a guy rather than a woman?

I liked your last approach:

Originally posted by rockitck

PUA: Nice looking socks
HB: I like them, (or something like that). I'm not wearing shoes because I have blisters from salsa dancing.
PUA: Batman or Spiderman
HB: bla, bla
PUA: Fluff for about 5 minutes, then eject, not into the married or maybe practicing approach.
I liked the way you adopted your approach to the situation by commenting on her socks but I didn't like your follow-up. She gave you some decent information (I believe some refer to it as trance words) about blisters from salsa dancing. However you didn't use this info and went into your Batman/Spiderman routine. What may have worked better would have been something like this:

PUA: Nice looking socks
HB:I like them, (or something like that). I'm not wearing shoes because I have blisters from salsa dancing.
PUA: Salsa dancing? Where do you do that?
HB: Blah Blah
PUA: I've been thinking of taking that up. Do you recommend it?
HB: Blah Blah
PUA: How about we attend one of the classes together sometime?

Just something like that may have been better but since you say she was married she likely would have turned you down anyway! Still, I think you would have better success with the situational openers and by picking up on the information that they give you.

Just my thoughts.

Keep it up though man. I think you're doing a good job and I personally find it encouraging. Good stuff.
 

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PUA: Nice looking socks
HB: I like them
PUA: Do you like mine? they have batman and spiderman on them!
HB: I like them
PUA: Will you Kiss me then
HB: No, I don't want to!
PUA: Please Kiss me
HB: Your scaring me!
PUA: Ok then. do u like Davie Bowie?
HB: I don't know him
PUA: He is a rock n' roll ringer, he's pretty hot ain't he? I'm gay but I'm trying to pull you
HB: Laughs
PUA: *stands right by the water* Pour me some water
HB: No I don't want to do it yourself
PUA: OK I will do only if you come back to my place dress up as spider girl and let me have kinky sex with you.


:D lol sorry! ..that is a what not guide for you
 
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