Jonwon --what's the truth?

[Eddie417]

You can't change the matrix, you can only learn to put yourself on another plane and learn to be able to duck in and out of it to serve your own purposes. If you look TOO deeply you will get stuck on this outer plane and not be able to operate within the context of the real world.

Well put.

 

[John-467]

Lol Rollo probably will close da thread, but the "victory" here is that somebody GETS IT...and it's jonwon.

Jonwon it can be frustraing as hell, when you log in here, click on New Thread...and say to yourself, "I'm gonna BLESS soembody today by helping them out with women and sharing my experiences. "

Then when you leave and log back in after some hours and hear,

" Jon you are a troll stop posting. "

" Jon is probably a girl and should be ignored."

" Jon I bet you haven't gotten laid EVERRR have you?"

After having just INVESTED your time and energy into "blessing" somebody, to just be SHYT on like that is FRUSTRATING and realllyyyy, reallyyyy what "eats at you" is that this is supposed to be a "HELPING MAN'S FORUM" where these guys are supposed to be your SUPPORTERS, they are suppose to LIFT YOU UP!

They should PRAISE b/c by the very act of someone logging in and creating a New Thread to HELP OUT ANOTHER, that means that someone has GOTTEN IT TO SOME POINT....that's success! We should rejoice!

But no, you don't recieve that...you actually recieve hatred.

And it eats at you, deep down you ask.....why are they doing this? What's the purpose?

Well Jonwon....you know how I deal with it buddy?

I just stop posting here.

 

[John-467]

I realized that the ones that I try to "BLESS" the SERIOUS ones don't POST ANYWAY or don't POST THAT MUCH....they just READ. And in that fashion, they have already GOTTEN it to a point.

So really, I don't need to preach, b/c the guys I'm trying to HELP already have gotten it to a point.....

So then who are the guys that respond? THEY ARE BORED INTERNET PEOPLE.

>>>> Think about this Jonwon, if guys like KETO and Strup, HAVE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING......why is it that they post here so much? Look at Keto's username, that lil green light is ALWAYS ON...he's ALWAYS on the computer and ALWAYS posting.....why??? How can someone with SOOO MANY CHICKS, have so much FREE TIMEEEE to just KEEP POSTING!!!

And they will have a RESPONSE for every OBJECTION, they will argue you down until there's no more feelings in your hands to type a response.

They are BORED INTERNET PEOPLE, with no life, and really NOTHING GOING ON....else...they wouldn't have so much TIME.

TIME
TIME
TIME

Jonwon that's all we have. You know we don't need this forum anymore, not at all. You know why Jonwon? It's not JUSTTT b/c we "got women" but it's b/c we have SOMETING ELSE TO DO WITH OUR..........TIMEEEE.

But 85% of the POSTERS here....do NOT, that's why they KEEP POSTING, they are BORED and ACTUALLY, HONESTLY, guys like Keto are LOOKING for an Internet-Debate/Fight/Flame b/c it brings excitement to his dull, boring, LIFE.

(And with that said........I email my next client)

 

[jonwon]

I realized that the ones that I try to "BLESS" the SERIOUS ones don't POST ANYWAY or don't POST THAT MUCH....they just READ. And in that fashion, they have already GOTTEN it to a point.

So really, I don't need to preach, b/c the guys I'm trying to HELP already have gotten it to a point.....

So then who are the guys that respond? THEY ARE BORED INTERNET PEOPLE.

>>>> Think about this Jonwon, if guys like KETO and Strup, HAVE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING......why is it that they post here so much? Look at Keto's username, that lil green light is ALWAYS ON...he's ALWAYS on the computer and ALWAYS posting.....why??? How can someone with SOOO MANY CHICKS, have so much FREE TIMEEEE to just KEEP POSTING!!!

And they will have a RESPONSE for every OBJECTION, they will argue you down until there's no more feelings in your hands to type a response.

They are BORED INTERNET PEOPLE, with no life, and really NOTHING GOING ON....else...they wouldn't have so much TIME.

TIME
TIME
TIME

Jonwon that's all we have. You know we don't need this forum anymore, not at all. You know why Jonwon? It's not JUSTTT b/c we "got women" but it's b/c we have SOMETING ELSE TO DO WITH OUR..........TIMEEEE.

But 85% of the POSTERS here....do NOT, that's why they KEEP POSTING, they are BORED and ACTUALLY, HONESTLY, guys like Keto are LOOKING for an Internet-Debate/Fight/Flame b/c it brings excitement to his dull, boring, LIFE.

(And with that said........I email my next client)

I hear you, but this place sucks the energy right out of you, i dont feel like wasting my time here any more.

i suggest you bail also, actually i will and could put names of a lot of guys who need to get the fuc* of this forum, in a positive way.

This place is just TOO MUCH, too, too MUCH.

Once you grasp the concepts for success, whats the point coming here?

To get flamed, ridiculed? Abused, over random ****.

Here is my Dating CV, just for the FUC* HEADS IN THIS FUC*ING FORUM

I have slept with nigh on 180+ women in my life has more relationships and lasted in more relationships, then that 50 year old fuc*er up there and i get shi* from guys who are still looking for there pee-pee. (I have even been married for 3 fuc8ing years)



This place has NOTHING to offer me, i have seen that today.

Why do i bother.

I do this place a service by coming here, do i get paid? no, do i get praise, sometimes and i apprecciate that, it is what i keep coming back for.

But over the last few days i have been seeing the biggest pile of shi* threads i can see (not from some posters) then i see bias and the so calls Dic* jumpers (DJ's) jumping on this shi* and are still holding it against me when i call them out on it.

I may not be the most polite of responders, because some people really do need a donkey kick to the fuc8ing head in this game.

Anyway, it was good to see you here john.

But leave em, fuc8 em and move on.

Joe calls me a player and takes it personal, saying my advice is to be ignored, Keto is just a dumb fuc* who needs to get rid of his biases and alis just cant drag himself out of the 'provider' catagory.

I get shi* for it.

Yeh SS in a nut shell.

This place can become an addiction, it can be almost akin to having a relationship with a AW and not letting go, i need peace in my life, not subject myself with abuse, ridicule and conjecture from ignorant dumb fuc*s.

 

[Ever onward]

Jonwon,

To me you've seemed to be one of the most intelligent posters on this forum.

I would have enjoyed reading your insight into all of this. But aliasguy was right, you were being vague and he asked for clarity. You then got pissy and trashed Sosuave, and that after listing all the positives here in your very first response.

To me that makes me doubt your integrity. Do you really value us at Sosuave as you stated in your first post? I doubt that you do if that when you get challenged on your mindset you turn hostile.

I guess it's time to put up or shut up my friend. If you really do have substance to add (and I think that you do) then clue us in on it. Or if you don't have anything to add, or don't feel we at the MM are appreciative, then let the topic die.

 

[jonwon]

Jonwon,

To me you've seemed to be one of the most intelligent posters on this forum.

I would have enjoyed reading your insight into all of this. But aliasguy was right, you were being vague and he asked for clarity. You then got pissy and trashed Sosuave, and that after listing all the positives here in your very first response.

To me that makes me doubt your integrity. Do you really value us at Sosuave as you stated in your first post? I doubt that you do if that when you get challenged on your mindset you turn hostile.

I guess it's time to put up or shut up my friend. If you really do have substance to add (and I think that you do) then clue us in on it. Or if you don't have anything to add, or don't feel we at the MM are appreciative, then let the topic die.

Ever-onward, i apprecciate it.

Alis, asked in an ok manner in his first post.

His 4th reply was just taking the pis*.

I could have ignored it, then the pissing contest started to happen.

It got worse.

Also i dont have to prove anything.

I dont have a problem with SS, i have a problem with clueless dic*s, getting the majourity of the say in this forums.

Put up or shut up you say?

Who the fuc* are you?

Why should i jump through your hoops?

Put up or shut up.

I'll take the latter.

 

[ketostix]

Well just read through jonwon psychotic ramblings. They're all there for everyone to see. In between his (unverifiable) claims that he's a master at picking up women, all his unwarranted and unsubstantiated bragging, his agreeing with John-367 (a known troll and flame-baiter), and insults and attack after attack against basically everyone that comes to this forum that doesn't figuratively suck his d!ck all he said of any substabnce in the last few pages of this thread is:

2. After a man "understands" women, what he should do is "mind-f*ck" and literally f*ck them.
This is JOHN interpretation of what makes women happy, which is not wrong, it is 100% correct, but even if this was 100% correct, it is not the only TRUTH out there, there are MANY< this is one example of success with women.

What kind of valuable information is that?

Then take John-467, likewise with his unsubtantiated claims that he's a master at picking up women (not that this would guarantee his advice is useful anyway), and his pure speculation about the success others have or don't have, his endless insults and disrespect of other posters here, and his elimination of every known and proven quality that attracts women, here's what all he does says of any of substance, "you have to mindfvck the girl, be sexual and go into sexual state."

What kind of advice is that? He's just partially regurgitating Gunwitch's idea about sexual state. Nothing new there. That's old as the hills. They're both just basically parroting the same old ideas that have been posted by others before, and doing a lot worse job than the originators did.

While I'm tired of these two characters and their trash talking about other posters, my biggest problem with them is that other posters might buy into and believe their bullsh!t claims. Another problem is you cannot have any intelligent disagreement or discussion with them without them ranting like lunatics. I think this evidences some kind of mental condition they have.

Bottom line, they don't have anything to offer. Jonwon says he doesn't need SoSuave? Sosuave doesn't need him either. I'd be glad if they both left because all they do is cause trouble on the forum.

 

[Ever onward]

Also i dont have to prove anything.

No, you certainly don't have to prove anything. However, if you had cared to enlighten us on your perspective, that would have been great.

Put up or shut up you say?

Who the fuc* are you?

Why should i jump through your hoops?

Who am I? I'm a guy with an open mind who was eager to learn more about your perspective.

I wasn't asking you to jump through hoops. It's like when you're dealing with women my friend, at some point you have to say "sh!t or get off the pot".

Put up or shut up.

I'll take the latter.

That's your choice. I regret that we won't get to hear more from your point of view on this matter.

 

[jonwon]

Look i need a break from here.

A month at least.

When i have chilled relaxed and see an opening, i will come back and put up a guide for poeple who are willing to learn.

Right now i cant do that, not now.

If you dont understand, listen to me:

I dont have to give anything............

But i do like a large % of this place.

But latley this place is really dam getting to me.

And i need a break.

Also i was about to put in my second post i wrote about till i saw the blatent dis-respect, i dont take that from no one.

I dont have to prove anything to no one.

I dont make money from this and i dont plan to, so there is no incentive to share my wisdom, NONE.

Put up and shut up does not encourage me to post.

It pis*es me off.

I need a break a long one.

 

[logic1]

Look i need a break from here.

A month at least.

When i have chilled relaxed and see an opening, i will come back and put up a guide for poeple who are willing to learn.

Right now i cant do that, not now.

If you dont understand, listen to me:

I dont have to give anything............

But i do like a large % of this place.

But latley this place is really dam getting to me.

And i need a break.

Also i was about to put in my second post i wrote about till i saw the blatent dis-respect, i dont take that from no one.

I dont have to prove anything to no one.

I dont make money from this and i dont plan to, so there is no incentive to share my wisdom, NONE.

Put up and shut up does not encourage me to post.

It pis*es me off.

I need a break a long one.

Who cares!

 

[Broham]

JonWon- Dude what happened? I was enjoying your posts until you let those dudes get under your skin! I was fooled into thinking you were a man of integrity. However, I guess I have to give you the benefit of the doubt since you might just be having a bad day.

I don't get why people have to let their egos get in the way in a forum of (supposed) interactive learning. Anyone with half a brain should be able to filter through the crap posted on here and be able to find some good advice and apply it to their own lives.

I also think every post on this board should be taken with a grain of salt. Every person here has their strengths and their weaknesses, and everyone comes from a different background and has vastly different experiences.

I personally enjoy reading JonWon's (somewhat ambiguous) posts, because I think he drives home some good points. He's not perfect, but neither are you or I. I believe we all have something to contribute, and we all are always learning. The symbiotic nature of SS is what makes it so great- we can give and take at the same time.

Most of the regular posters here are pretty smart people- read what they have to say and believe what you want to believe.

 

[iqqi]

I just can't believe Jonwon is letting Keto get to him. Goodness, man. I'm a chick and even I can see that he isn't worth crap, let alone my anger. Just laugh at his sorry a$$. That's what I do.

 

[ketostix]

I just can't believe Jonwon is letting Keto get to him. Goodness, man. I'm a chick and even I can see that he isn't worth crap, let alone my anger. Just laugh at his sorry a$$. That's what I do.

Nice try and nice little jab there. Anyone can see plain as day jonwon attacked several people in this thread that so much as disagreed or questioned him at all. He basically cussed out and attacked everyone on this forum who doesn't praise him and stroke his ego. He said basically nothing tangible in this thread. Don't try to blame me for him being a loose cannon with a comprehension problem.

 

[STR8UP]

FWIW.....here's my two cents.

Jonwon...great poster. Lately though, I have to agree that the ambiguity level has been turned up full blast. And when you start throwing things out that are very difficult for other people to understand, it's frustrating.

Like Jonwon asked me a question in another thread. I tried to answer as best I could, which obviously wasn't what he was looking for, but when I asked him to clarify he just said "You know what I mean". If I did, I wouldn't be asking.

So, Jon, should you choose to stay around, it would benefit those of us who feel that they can learn something from your posts if you were to be a little more clear.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Ahh, and once again all I need do is look for any thread above a 3 page count and I find JOHN-467 and another flame war.

Thread Closed.