Jesse Pinkman's approach/field reports thread.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Yo guys, I need some advice. So I am thinking.

1. I have a Margarita bar, super good Margs, that is a 10 minute walk from me

and I have a

2. Sushi spot below where I live in my apartment complex, no dine in and all carry out but I do have a nice rooftop

Should I propose the sushi on the rooftop the next time instead of Margs and trying to pull them to my place?

 

[member160292]

1st meet?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

1st meet?

yes

 

[member160292]

Take her to a high end bar, rooftop. Maybe $20 a drink and treat her like she’s normal, not SA. Gauge if she is ready otherwise move to another venue for apps. Do the take out option if it’s still open after.

These women will only bang if they don’t feel like they are on SA in the first place. Being hella beta with decent game should get it done

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Take her to a high end bar, rooftop. Maybe $20 a drink and treat her like she’s normal, not SA. Gauge if she is ready otherwise move to another venue for apps. Do the take out option if it’s still open after.

These women will only bang if they don’t feel like they are on SA in the first place. Being hella beta with decent game should get it done

Eh, none of those bars a walking distance from me dude. I don't want to have to Uber her to my place. I am trying to work the logistics in my favor here.

 

[member160292]

Why are you calling her an Uber to come to you? Shouldn’t that be an extremely ‘soft close?’

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Jesse, there are not one but two rules of engagement. #1 is Seeking is not as escort site. #2 is Seeking is not Match.com. You have to talk about phucking with these women before the meet to suss out the players. No extended makeouts unless in a sex location. Fondling mixed in with the kissing.

These OLD chicks will game you hard if you let them. And this one is on Seeking looking for who knows what.

edit - probably an NBA player as a 45 y/o milf. You have to check these women.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

And since this thing is on Seeking, you know her date #2 will be a harbor cruise or a 5 star meal, not dinner at your place or shooting pool at the bar. You can't play the typical dating process with these women. Not even a comedy club or a art exhibit will be good enough.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

And yes Jesse, this deserves a third critique. You know yourself how foreign women who immigrate to the US are.


.....and Politics?? man. 90% of the time these days an OLD woman talking about politics is looking to be divisive, an fyi. Of course she's going to use your differences against you. Don't go there, in fact not talking about politics should be a *third* rule of engagement, at least with the Seeking women. But they should be dumb enough to not care, anyway.

 

[SW15]

serious daygame!

One of the best things about daygame is that wings are not needed in daygame. In most daygame settings, women are already isolated from their friends, so you being alone is normal.

Running nightgame alone is much more difficult because women are always out in groups at nightlife venues that are conducive to pickup. I've done approaches in nightlife venues when I arrived alone before and it was less of a big deal than many people think that it is. Nevertheless, I would prefer to do nightlife approaching with a wing.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Been a busy past few days for me in terms of dates and game, updating log now.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

July 7th

Had my third date planned in a row from a girl from Seeking who was super into me. It was this Japanese chick from Texas, super white washed and she was the one who initially opened me on Seeking to say that I must have had some bad experiences on there. We were texting back and forth for a week but the issue is that I had to take time off for July 4th weekend to travel elsewhere, so did she.

We met at the same spot I had been taking my dates to and this was the third one in a row. She arrived and we got a table for two. She looked cute with her hair in a ponytail. Unfortunately, the way the restaurant is laid out makes the table for 2 right near the bar. Near us, these old farts (mix of men and women) were at the bar standing in a group and being loud. We get food and some drinks. The female bartender knows me now based on the dates I bring in at this point lol.

The biggest ****block so far for me on my dates? This hellish Miami summer weather and this summer in general is awful. I am talking flash rains and a record heat wave like none other. It has been quite frustrating to deal with as it defeats the purpose of my rooftop.

Now we start to order and chat, she is teasing me a bit and I tease her. She laughs because I tease her about her Texan upbringing. We have a great date overall and then after an hour or so, she agrees to drive back to my place. Here is the problem with my apartments, the parking sucks donkey nuts for guests. I do not even use the apartment parking but an independent one I pay for. Crappy parking for guests but we finally go back.

I take her to the rooftop and we chill but only for rain to pour down seconds later. I then take her to my apartment but the reality is that my setup can use some help. I do not have an L-shaped couch, only one couch chair big enough for one person. I would spend more on furniture but the move was taxing and I have just not had the time in recent months. I know I need to get on this soon.

As soon as I bring her back, she talks about how small my place is, talks about how I must be unpacking (some of my stuff is in suitcases but I ordered racks that are more complicated to set up than I expected), and then hangs for a bit. I try to kiss but she turns me down. Tells me she does not do this and then leaves.

And a strike out but my Friday misery is just starting!

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

July 7th, Friday misery continued but I meet a Game Legend.

A cool bar has opened up near me and I go to it, it is supposed to be a replica of one of Miami's larger game bars. Overall, I am in a crappy mood and just miserable. I have had a date three days in a row but for the life of me, cannot pull. There is work to be done on my place after I did the heavy work moving and dealing with a bunch of personal and work-related stuff. I go but I am in a pissy mood.

Somehow, I am becoming disgruntled with people from areas of Miami such as Brickell and Miami Beach. All of these loonies from the rest of the country who move here to party, act with vanity, and just how snobby the party scene is. I saw my spot as almost a refuge from that but as soon as I go to this bar, it is that kind of vibe. Mix that in with a bad date and man I am in a pissy mood.

Approach 1

I approach these two blondes when in line for drinks. One is being sassy and I call her out on it but she is relaxed and jokes with me about it. Eitherways, it doesn't go that well but I get my drink.

Approach 2

I approach these two brunettes and have a good time with one, she actually gives me her IG even though it is a short approach but does not accept my request as I come to find days later.

Approach 3

I approach these two girls dressed well, both from NY and seem Latina. One is from Long Island and one from Queens. I tease them about it but we have a good vibe going. I talk about the various parts of the city and it is a long enough approach, like at least 5+ minutes. Eventually, I get their IGs. The Queens girl is leaving in a couple of days but I found her more receptive even though I was talking to the Long Island girl more. I will spoil it for everyone, it is my best approach for the night.

Approach 4

I approach these two college girls who are both Latinas at FIU. Both seem under 21 but over 18. They are all giving one word answers but laughing in that annoying basic b1tch way. It is frustrating to deal with so I leave them alone.

Game Legend spotted.

I walk around the bar and then I see him, all 6'5 of him. It is none other than JMLUV and Game Legend John Anthony Lifestyle. The dude is massive, like a legit 6'4. I go and approach him to thank him for his good work in the game world and we chat for a bit. His girlfriend, really hot, is introduced to me and I smile at her and shake her hand. At the same time, I am too passionate to tell him about the good work he is doing and we have a great convo. We talk about the good ole RSD days and he gives me his number, yup, I number closed a game legend.

Go through and I run into others in his crew. Everything about John Anthony was solid and as were his students and coaches. His coach Josh is jacked as a mofo, like I have been around NFL players before and he is more jacked than a lot of them!

Approach 5

I approach these two girls near the harbor and say I will take a pic of both them. Then I try to game them and it seems to go somewhat decent. They are from Wisconsin which is a good sign but at the same time, their parents were from Miami but moved to WI. Things go somewhat alright but then when I try to close, they laugh and say they don't give out their social media.

At this point, I am 4 drinks in, including 2 strong drinks I had on my date, and I am getting livid on the inside.

Approach 6

I approach this one cute girl with a tattoo who is with her friends and ask her about it. She gives me somewhat of a response but then when I comment more, saying all the tattoos finally tell a story, she gives me that weird look and tells me to walk. I say to her "So Boston!" in a snarky way. This is so not me and I swear I might just get into a fight tonight.

Approach 7

I approach a three-set but who cares, don't recall much, they were coonts.

Approach 8

I approach 2 Latin girls as I am walking with them but they act sassy. I then say "have a great night, you need it". Wow this is REALLY not me here and really not a night I am proud of.

Random d1ck move approach

I approach these two girls and tell them "some advice, stay in Brickell". Yup, I was upset and did just that.

4 blondes

Somewhat tame on this approach but bleh whatever, I leave after this.

One miserable night.

Wow, I truly showed my bad colors didn't I? What would transpire after this? FIND OUT!

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

July 8th, two dates planned.

So I had two dates planned, one from Hinge and one from Seeking. The Hinge one I had number closed on WhatsApp but then she went hot and cold on responses. Told her we can just reschedule, it ends up being that I was not free until later in the coming week. She rushes to my place and we get some food from below where I live and go to my rooftop. She had a birthmark she hid on her pics and was not chatty. However, due to NoFap I am horny and decide to pursue it after we finish our food. We chat for a but she wants drink.

Bring her to the bar. She ends up drinking with me but she is SOOO SLOW in drinking her freaking drink. I mean WTF!!! Meanwhile, I have another date planned soon. She somehow pushes me to have one more drink with her and I say fine, whatever. Come to find at some point, she uses that time in the second drink to talk to someone else on the freaking phone. At this point, I go for my exit strategy and tell her I have to leave and do. I just leave her there.

She was my ugliest date of the ones I have had, pretty sure the bartenders are going to gimme crap for that lol.

Then I get ready for my other date but come to find, three hours later, this freaking chick is STILL at the bar. I texted her and she is still there. WTF, she has nothing but time to waste!

Then my other date from Seeking, I inform her of the location change and she ghosts me based on that. Says she is one the way and then ghosts me, even blocks me on the site. WTF! Alright.....

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

July 8th, my redemption night.

I was drained from the day and simply not proud of myself of what I had done the night before at the venue I went to, I was going to make things right. I go in with different goals.

1. I will keep a positive mindset.

2. I will do an approach but no matter what happens, keep a positive mindset throughout the way.

I go and just walk around the venue, it is somewhat more chill during this time. The whole time, I chill a bit and then, I see these two fine Latinas dress well. I chat and open them saying they are dressed too well for the venue and are definitely not ending their night there. The reception I get is amazing and we have a great chat for a bit. One of the Latinas is going to NYC in a week and we chat about that. The other one is friendly too. Their friend comes in and then they have this Tomboy chick as well so now I am working a 4-set solo.

I keep a good energy and vibe to me so they keep talking. A few times, the Tomboy chick does try to get in my way but I play it off as friendly and chill and she is friendly and chill with me. WTF, I am a different guy from just a night before. I try to include everyone but then eventually, Tomboy girl asks me how I know the girls and I tell them I am one of the Latinas' Virtual Tour Guide for NYC.

We walk to the other end of the bar but before we do, I get the IGs of the two Latinas. As we are doing it, I am with the one Latina that I am into, the tall dark-haired one. We have a great chat but I make sure she does not lose her group. A SNL is out of the question since it is a 4-set and just one of me. I tell the Latina I will go but then tell her I will tell her friends too. Tell everyone I need to go and that they have a solid and cool group.

I end up leaving after that approach, the two Latinas followed me back on IG as well.

Not a bad night compared to the night before.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

July 9th, a Sunday like none other!

I got a ton of good sleep the night before and had two dates planned today, spoiler, none of them happened. I then decide to hit the gym for the first time in almost a month. I have been so freaking sick in terms of health from over a month ago and so drained from dealing with toxic wingmen that I am glad I cut off. Did my back and bicep workout today and hit new maxes across the board in terms of reps.

Felt good and then went to daygame. It was kind of personal though. I went to the same area I went to the last time I went with my super toxic draining wingman. The same loser who would do an approach, get rejected, ask girls how they met their BF, and when they said social circle or work as usual, spent the whole freaking session complaining to me and draining my vibe. Like this dude is one of the most toxic people I have met in my years of game. The kind of toxic person that makes you sick by just hanging out with them. To hear time and time again "uh, how are they meeting these men? social circle and work, not through this! how do men get these women?".

Emotionally and mentally draining parasite of a human being.

I went to the same area of the city, a popular daygame spot, to daygame solo just to clear my head. Told myself I would get no numbers but who cares.

Approach 1

See this cute white girl with black hair and a ponytail out with what may have been her mom or significantly older friend. She had a zodiac sign tattoo on the back of her neck. Open her with a "hmm, that's either a Scorpio or Virgo". She then responds with "I don't know" while smiling. I keep taking cracks at her but her response is a smile and "I don't know". Wish her well although maybe I could have done more with it. Looking back, I should have said "I am either really into this guy or wish he would f*ck off but I don't know" and smiled like she did. The older b1tch was looking on in a mean way.

Approach 2

I am looking out at the city from a view and this cute girl with glasses passed by me. I open her and tell her her glasses look good but she smiles and chats with me for a second. Unfortunately, she is going into a store. Would not even shake my hand lol.

Approach 3

Open this one cute Latina in pink, she unfortunately does not speak good English but seemed like a friendly girl overall.

I decide that enough is enough and head to the same bar I was at yesterday. It is open during the day, is outdoors, and has a nice view.

I open two girls at a table and one blonde with tatts. Both are nice to me but not really that receptive as I would have liked. Could have pushed for a number but didn't.

Overall? GREAT DAY.

I felt great and got what I needed to get out, out.

I felt recovered in a big way. No results to show for it yet but I just felt amazing in my head. It meant a lot to go back to that same game spot and just clear my head and do approaches. I felt empowered to go solo and know the changes I need to make. I am really looking forward to the coming months and I feel so free.

I found the wingmen in the PUA Group I used to be a part of to be quite limiting to my growth in game so I am so glad to do it all solo.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Reflecting on the weekend and improvements to make.

So quite a few things I want to work on but I am seeing summer as a training camp before the full season begins in fall. Fall is when Miami is going to really pick up and I want to be at my best when it does.

1. Need better furniture and an improvement to my pad. Need at least a good couch to build some warmth in and a good table as well. My spot is somewhat small (hey, rent is crazy in this city) but I need to improve it. The good thing? ALMOST all girls paid for their own Ubers and I really only needed to pay for the meal and drinks. I need to redo my pad and up its value so when I pull, it is more intimate.

2. Too many dates, seriously. I need to limit the number of dates I have. Not just for the sake of my wallet but also my liver. I cannot drink 4 days straight and it is not what I am going to do. I need to relax a bit on the dates and the drinking. No more than 3 dates a week and aggressive screening at that, especially on Seeking.

3. Days cut out for game and days for dates. I cannot have dates on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon where I should be daygaming. Dates can happen more on weekdays. Plus girls are less likely to flake as they do not have as many plans. Weekends need to be spent daygaming and building opportunities.

4. So glad my mind and my routine are starting to be right again. No more wingmen, no more PUA garbage, no more PUA types to hang out with, and I am going solo for all of this.

So grateful for the learning experience this summer. I did not fail. I realized what does not work and needs to go and have done a great job in eliminating it. I cannot wait to implement the newer me into the coming months and feel that good results can potentially come.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

July 7th

Had my third date planned in a row from a girl from Seeking who was super into me. It was this Japanese chick from Texas, super white washed and she was the one who initially opened me on Seeking to say that I must have had some bad experiences on there. We were texting back and forth for a week but the issue is that I had to take time off for July 4th weekend to travel elsewhere, so did she.

We met at the same spot I had been taking my dates to and this was the third one in a row. She arrived and we got a table for two. She looked cute with her hair in a ponytail. Unfortunately, the way the restaurant is laid out makes the table for 2 right near the bar. Near us, these old farts (mix of men and women) were at the bar standing in a group and being loud. We get food and some drinks. The female bartender knows me now based on the dates I bring in at this point lol.

The biggest ****block so far for me on my dates? This hellish Miami summer weather and this summer in general is awful. I am talking flash rains and a record heat wave like none other. It has been quite frustrating to deal with as it defeats the purpose of my rooftop.

Now we start to order and chat, she is teasing me a bit and I tease her. She laughs because I tease her about her Texan upbringing. We have a great date overall and then after an hour or so, she agrees to drive back to my place. Here is the problem with my apartments, the parking sucks donkey nuts for guests. I do not even use the apartment parking but an independent one I pay for. Crappy parking for guests but we finally go back.

I take her to the rooftop and we chill but only for rain to pour down seconds later. I then take her to my apartment but the reality is that my setup can use some help. I do not have an L-shaped couch, only one couch chair big enough for one person. I would spend more on furniture but the move was taxing and I have just not had the time in recent months. I know I need to get on this soon.

As soon as I bring her back, she talks about how small my place is, talks about how I must be unpacking (some of my stuff is in suitcases but I ordered racks that are more complicated to set up than I expected), and then hangs for a bit. I try to kiss but she turns me down. Tells me she does not do this and then leaves.

And a strike out but my Friday misery is just starting!

It rains in Florida in the summer virtually every day for a few hours, does nothing to cool it down only make it more humid and then you see steam rising from the pavement...

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

It rains in Florida in the summer virtually every day for a few hours, does nothing to cool it down only make it more humid and then you see steam rising from the pavement...

It is the definition of h3ll in the summers, weather gets borderline c0ckblocky in and of itself.

 

[SW15]

3. Days cut out for game and days for dates. I cannot have dates on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon where I should be daygaming. Dates can happen more on weekdays. Plus girls are less likely to flake as they do not have as many plans. Weekends need to be spent daygaming and building opportunities.

This is a modification of an older ideas I read about in the 2000s. The idea might even be older than that.

With night game, there was some common wisdom to use Friday and Saturday nights to find new options and use the other nights of the week for early stage dates. Women had to earn their way into getting a prime Friday/Saturday night slot.