It's over for Passport Bros

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I would really love to know your definition of a high value man please.
Good salary, in shape, takes care of his grooming/appearance, educated.

I see a lot of these guys around, much more than overweight women, or slimmer ones whose biggest talent is taking selfies for instagram.
 

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Good salary, in shape, takes care of his grooming/appearance, educated.

I see a lot of these guys around, much more than overweight women, or slimmer ones whose biggest talent is taking selfies for instagram.
Maybe they have terrible personalities, boring to be around, going for the wrong type of women, or lack the confidence/patience to date. These are good qualities to have, but they don’t necessarily guarantee you a high quality girl. Being high value on paper doesn’t guarantee you women because of this and you can be low value and get laid pretty easily.

I think a good example of this is a your typical gymcel Muslim guy with a decent job that goes after White women that would prefer a Chad.
 
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PRETTY MUCH THESE TWO POINTS.

I have said it in other threads - I am from and have lived all my life in Eastern Europe (in the Balkans). There has been a huge shift in culture, traditional values, marriage, dating and so on in the last 25+ years. We now have both more and more single childless 30+ year old women (alpha widowed/burnt out), and women who are 35+ single moms, actively dating. More and more women marry and bear children after the age of thirty.

Almost all women here under the age of sixty are on Instagram, Facebook, Viber, logged on Messenger for almost the entire day, and even OLD is becoming normalized.

If you think that you can wave a 50 dollar bill or a western passport (after being a loser or unattractive in your own country) and the local women would spread their legs, and local men would kneel to you, you are wrong.

There are almost no safe heavens of traditional values anymore, and that is the brutal truth. You should search for women that rarely use SM.
This. Men need to understand that unfortunately the last maybe 5 years western culture is seeping through all around the globe . We underestimate how much time women constantly spend doing and watching women stuff that keeps brain washing them. The sexual revolution is unstoppable at this point, unless you apply extremely strict laws like the shariah Afghanistan style. Best to stop dreaming that women wanna be Disney princesses.

This might be the last era you can "try to passport bro " your way into your so much sought after Disney dream of having a feminine wife who obeys you without ever practicing any game and is blind for the fact that other women ignore you.

If you struggle with women in your own country the problem is with you, not with women. You gotta be able to make an honest assessment about how attractive you REALLY are, and what can and must be improved. If you aint ready ,work on that shyte and become better.

Funny story: this guy i know is a deadbeat, got a Philippine girl coming over to Europe to yes ,marry her. Tons of debts, still has to carry her financially. Sounds great...
 

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Funny story: this guy i know is a deadbeat, got a Philippine girl coming over to Europe to yes ,marry her. Tons of debts, still has to carry her financially. Sounds great...
I know like two guys that tried to passport bro to Columbian women, one is your typical ugly nerd and the other one could be considered a Chad, but he is the male version of a crazy bish that lives with his parents at age 31. Let's just say they are all divorced, and their women are living in NYC posting all over Instagram lol.
 

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I know like two guys that tried to passport bro to Columbian women, one is your typical ugly nerd and the other one could be considered a Chad, but he is the male version of a crazy bish that lives with his parents at age 31. Let's just say they are all divorced, and their women are living in NYC posting all over Instagram lol.
I just wished that dude would read an anecdote like this. I dont understand why you would out yourself in this predicament. Again, know your smv!!! It allows you too work on it and raise yiur value little by little.

The passport bro. Literally becomes a broz someone close as it becomes a more popular option. It's almost always a combination of a insecure, impatient and game-less man who wants a quick fix.

Another thing I've noticed is that age has obviously lowered dramatically. Not too long ago it were only old man , like 50/60 +. Now suddenly young men skip learning game and try this path in their twenties already.

I think anything before 50 is too young . Learn game and get a woman near by you. C'mon guys..
 
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If you think that you can wave a 50 dollar bill or a western passport (after being a loser or unattractive in your own country) and the local women would spread their legs, and local men would kneel to you, you are wrong.
How about a 100 dollar bill?
 

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Maybe they have terrible personalities, boring to be around, going for the wrong type of women, or lack the confidence/patience to date. These are good qualities to have, but they don’t necessarily guarantee you a high quality girl. Being high value on paper doesn’t guarantee you women because of this and you can be low value and get laid pretty easily.

I think a good example of this is a your typical gymcel Muslim guy with a decent job that goes after White women that would prefer a Chad.
Maybe, but maybe the women do as well.

Let's just go for objective measurables first and then move on the qualitative areas.

And further, I don't get your point about interracial dating, and I don't see how it's applicable. Then again I only date girls in my race so I can't speak to this.
 

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Maybe, but maybe the women do as well.
Most men do not care about personalities until the honeymoon phase ends


Let's just go for objective measurables first and then move on the qualitative areas.
The only thing that matters is what women find attractive the most. The fuzzy wuzzies and looks/personality preferences are above money, fitness, and education excluding gold diggers and gym rats.


And further, I don't get your point about interracial dating, and I don't see how it's applicable. Then again I only date girls in my race so I can't speak to this.
It’s simple, Ashley the girl from a Christian family that loves pork is not going to pair well with a foreign Muslim man. She would much rather prefer a Chad or a Tyrone at the least. The Muslim guy is simply trying to sell umbrellas in Phoenix, Arizona by heavily pursuing Ashley.
 

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How about a 100 dollar bill?
Most men do not care about personalities until the honeymoon phase ends

The only thing that matters is what women find attractive the most. The fuzzy wuzzies and looks/personality preferences are above money, fitness, and education excluding gold diggers and gym rats.

It’s simple, Ashley the girl from a Christian family that loves pork is not going to pair well with a foreign Muslim man. She would much rather prefer a Chad or a Tyrone at the least. The Muslim guy is simply trying to sell umbrellas in Phoenix, Arizona by heavily pursuing Ashley.

Women globally earn or have the chance to earn enough to at least meet their basic needs. That alone means that the previous marriage/LTR model of them relying on men is gone.

This basically leads to the result that @CornbreadFed described - women chasing the best guys in her dating pool, that have the optimal combo of height + looks + interesting life.

By leading with money, you are showing the woman from the get go that you know that you cannot satisfy her other needs or preferences. So therefore you try to compensate your deficiencies by becoming a provider. This does not work long term, since she would always want a man that fits the above model.

Below is an example from 2022, which pretty much sums the dating situation for most females - they lust after the most (physically) desirable men, and their relationship status is apparently flexible. Bezos's net wort is literally over 600x the net worth of Di Caprio, and he is a worldwide famous entrepreneur that has created a trillion dollar company, so he should be the more desirable one (using classic red pill notions), right?

 
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More on geomaxxing.
 

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Solution: go to poorer countries :up:
Remember that old Eddie Murphy standup act where he thought it might be a good idea to go get a "Bush B1tch". Basically find a woman that spent her life living in a grass hut scratching out an existence in some horrible 3th world nightmare.

BUT, then he realized that as soon as he brought he back to the USA, all the other women here would turn her into one of them.,,,

That is truth... very true.
 

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Remember that old Eddie Murphy standup act where he thought it might be a good idea to go get a "Bush B1tch". Basically find a woman that spent her life living in a grass hut scratching out an existence in some horrible 3th world nightmare.

BUT, then he realized that as soon as he brought he back to the USA, all the other women here would turn her into one of them.,,,

That is truth... very true.

Eddie murphy's standup act was... like 40 years ago??? Things have changed.. and will continue to change. We are in a generation where a lot of older women are single, without kids... and a lot of them are regretting it. This situation is only going to accelerate. For a lot of older women, once their fertility window is gone and their looks have faded; it will be harder for them to convince the younger generation that being "strong and independent" is a good path when these younger women can compare and contrast these feminist with women who have kids, who have someone to come home to late at night, who are basically more happy.

To be honest, I think a lot of younger women know this. However, we are at the point where they are still chasing chad. The next step is for average women to understand, they are average and they must match up with average guys. This is the current step where we are at but it's hard for the average woman because it goes against human nature to always want the best; it also requires foresight which a lot of women do not have. Foreign women know this because they see women who are older and not married. In their society, these women do not do well because daddy government does not have the resources to cuddle these older women.
 

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You select what you want to hear. A video where you can't see the person speaking, spewing out whatever, doesn't have any credibility.

Here are a few videos from my end:



Two different videos to show how "equal opportunity" this is.
It's been well-established that African-American women have the absolute worst attitudes in the world.
 

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I gotta be honest man, I'm 29 and Eddie Murphy's career was all but over by the time I knew who he was.


I agree with him here though lol. Sharia law might have some merit after all...
(joking, kind of)
Look up "Eddie Murphy Raw." But the material is dated you likely won't find much funny... and truth is Murphy was never as good as Richard Pryor. Even at Pryor's worst he was better than Murphy.
 

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Western men going to Eastern Europe, Latin America, and Asia has been a thing for a long time. I remember hearing about it at least 20 years ago and it's probably been going on a lot longer than that. I don't see this trend disappearing.

A lot of Western men who go to Eastern Europe, Latin America, and Asia are not top tier men. A top tier man in the United States has no reason to travel. He's getting plenty of vagina at home. The guys who travel are some collection of normies and rejects. There are some normies who can do better by traveling.
 
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