It's not that complicated, people

[Drewskie]

I am afraid that this board is part of the problem. You have some guy who is having trouble with women. He seeks the answers here and in the process is diluged with all of these rules, tips, tricks, etc. while in the process losing the big picture. Instead of being out there on the field, he transforms himself into a keyboard jockey hoping to find the magic bullet that will solve all of his women woes.

The best pick up artists I know are not PUA in the true sense of the word. They don't use NLP, don't read how to pick up books, etc. When I observe how they do it, it is so simple it hurts.

One of best posts on this board.

 

[Unprez]

Although this thread has a point about all this technique crap is too much but at the same time to say that yea i can fk any girl, look how many i have slept wit etc etc... what would come to my mind would be ok but what would be the quality of the girls u slept wit.....the more quality of a girl she is the mroe u have to work at it , the more you have to show u worth , the more u have to use push-pull techniques.....yes overall there is too much over analysis of gaming girls on this but some of the basic ideas are good reminders what real men should do... such as improving ourselves, not to be desperate, having a girl doesn't equal happiness etc...... everybody can come here and talk **** but unless ur a brad pitt or george clooney to say that yea i can fk any girl i want is bull**** and i bet u even they got punked b4...... lets be a bit more rational and less ****y...cuz i've witnessed some of the hottest girls wit some really humble guys

 

[cw92]

I guess Im one of these "new guys" that has been mentioned as the problem of overanalyzing. I would just like to say that Ive been here maybe a month and I have been reading alot of articles, and they have helped me profoundly

Before this site, I would see my friends getting girls and such, and when i would ask them how they did it, they would reply with things such as

"its easy"
"dont think about it"
"Be confident"

(Which to me sounded like total BS.)
which is what I beileve dbot is trying to get at, which is similar to "inner game".

Now as an AFC wanna-be-Dj I would like to say that overanalyzing has helped me, in fact i have two girls interested in me right now. I feel that everyone has to start somewhere, and though i dont speak from experience, I think that everyone has to overanalyze to realize that its easy. At least thats the impression that I have been getting from reading similar posts.

In short, I feel that analyzing things brings about change, and builds fundamentals. With these fundamentals in place you can meet women, and learn from your mistakes.

 

[dbot]

Although this thread has a point about all this technique crap is too much but at the same time to say that yea i can fk any girl, look how many i have slept wit etc etc... what would come to my mind would be ok but what would be the quality of the girls u slept wit.....the more quality of a girl she is the mroe u have to work at it , the more you have to show u worth , the more u have to use push-pull techniques.....yes overall there is too much over analysis of gaming girls on this but some of the basic ideas are good reminders what real men should do... such as improving ourselves, not to be desperate, having a girl doesn't equal happiness etc...... everybody can come here and talk **** but unless ur a brad pitt or george clooney to say that yea i can fk any girl i want is bull**** and i bet u even they got punked b4...... lets be a bit more rational and less ****y...cuz i've witnessed some of the hottest girls wit some really humble guys

So the higher quality women are somehow wired differently than the rest? They evolved from some parallel gene pool that gave them different behavioral traits than all the "low-quality" women out there? This illustrates the entire point I'm trying to get at. Women behave the same. So what if she's gorgeous. She may be *****y, or have an entitlement complex from all the attention she receives, BUT SHE WILL STILL F*CK YOU.

Sit down with the highest quality woman you can find, and I bet she can tell you about a time she had a one night stand with a guy that totally blew her away. If you can learn to be that guy, then you really can f*ck any girl you please.

 

[Lexington]

If you visit these forums long enough and assimilate a lot of information, you'll get a sense of the big picture and how everything fits together. You'll learn to sift the wheat from the chaff. Initially it can be a little confusing, but you start to figure things out in time.

I look at these forums like the book part of one's education. Most engineers have to memorize a bunch of formulas and grapple with a lot of seemingly worthless information. They're not even going to use most of what they learn in the process of earning their degree. Heck, they'll still need a lot of on the job training. But the undergrad degree gives them a foundation to use in the real world.

Likewise, these forums provide budding DJs some basics to try out on the field. Rather than going in completely blind, it's good to have some background information. Obviously theory and practice can be two very different things, but theory can help to guide practice and give you a framework to figure out just what the hell is going on.

 

[cw92]

If you visit these forums long enough and assimilate a lot of information, you'll get a sense of the big picture and how everything fits together. You'll learn to sift the wheat from the chaff. Initially it can be a little confusing, but you start to figure things out in time.

I look at these forums like the book part of one's education. Most engineers have to memorize a bunch of formulas and grapple with a lot of seemingly worthless information. They're not even going to use most of what they learn in the process of earning their degree. Heck, they'll still need a lot of on the job training. But the undergrad degree gives them a foundation to use in the real world.

Likewise, these forums provide budding DJs some basics to try out on the field. Rather than going in completely blind, it's good to have some background information. Obviously theory and practice can be two very different things, but theory can help to guide practice and give you a framework to figure out just what the hell is going on.

I wholeheartedly agree, i wanted my post to kind of convey the same message, but yours is alot easier to read.

 

[dbot]

If you visit these forums long enough and assimilate a lot of information, you'll get a sense of the big picture and how everything fits together. You'll learn to sift the wheat from the chaff. Initially it can be a little confusing, but you start to figure things out in time.

I look at these forums like the book part of one's education. Most engineers have to memorize a bunch of formulas and grapple with a lot of seemingly worthless information. They're not even going to use most of what they learn in the process of earning their degree. Heck, they'll still need a lot of on the job training. But the undergrad degree gives them a foundation to use in the real world.

Likewise, these forums provide budding DJs some basics to try out on the field. Rather than going in completely blind, it's good to have some background information. Obviously theory and practice can be two very different things, but theory can help to guide practice and give you a framework to figure out just what the hell is going on.

I see what you're saying, but I still think you'd be better off just going out and making approaches than absorbing every bit of info on these boards. You shouldn't attempt Calculus before you learn Algebra, yet so many new guys are reading about all this advanced stuff when they can't even approach a girl without sh*tting their pants. That's not how it's supposed to work. I don't think adding variables is a good idea in the first place, but if you insist, at least do it in the right order.

 

[Harmonix]

cool. give examples of playful banter you can use

 

[fertileTurtle]

No This Is How You Really Get Laid 1000001. LOL.

No but really. I have seen a lot of what is being described here on these very boards, but this was a good post.

 

[Unprez]

Agreed..the big picture is that this site gives you an idea HOW to be a DJ .. it does NOT MAKE YOU ONE....personally i found this site more helpfull when i was already 'talking' to girls then oppose to cold chopping....biggest tip was that it essential that men be a challenge

 

[yuppaz]

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[seangosu]

Good stuff

 

[Aaron B]

love the OP

good stuff bro

 

[Rubato]

SHE WANTS TO FU*K TOO!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO BEAT HER AT CHESS FIRST!!!!

This is probably the best thing I've ever read on this board.

 

[CJ 101]

Lol...

 

[SupaPowa]

I'm 19 years old, 5'9", and while I have a fairly good looking face, I'm terribly underweight. I also get laid a lot. In fact, I get laid whenever I want. There are tons of girls that I can call at any time that would love to come over and have a beer, some sex, clean my kitchen, etc. Should I not be able to get ahold of any of these women, I can easily go to my nearest Von's, Rite Aid, Starbucks, Jamba Juice, Barnes & Noble or any other common gathering and find a new girl that'll want to hook up with me that same day. And if for some reason she doesn't wanna hook up, then screw that bich because the hottie behind her will... always.

Take a look at my user info. I first registered for this board in January 2003. I was your typical high school introvert in my sophomore year... I had friends and was sort of "cool," but was secretly terrified of the opposite sex.

I consumed every bit of information I could from this board and applied it to my everyday life. It helped a little. I gained a bit of confidence and I actually got a girlfriend during my senior year. I thought this place was the sh!t... but as I became more comfortable with women after high school I began to realize that most of its all bullsh!t that's been way overanalyzed and thought out. This place is a breeding ground for stupid theories preached by those who don't know sh!t about what they're talking about.

Getting laid is easy. The hard part is to truly understand that. Let me say it again:

GETTING LAID IS EASY

Now that we've got that established, I want you all to shut the f*ck up with your theories and your step1/step2/step3 techniques. Shut the f*ck up about KINO and alpha male bullsh!t etc I'm sick of hearing it. Stop breaking this sh!t down into a science. It's really not that complicated. The following is all you need to know about women:

-They are horny as f*ck

-They act on their emotions, THEN justify their actions.

-They don't want to be percieved as slutty.

-They will definitely have sex with you as long as they can blame it on something out of their control.

Some of you have spent years figuring out exactly what to say and when to say it. But guess what? IT DOESN'T EVEN F*CKING MATTER!!!! Do you honestly think girls comprehend (or care about) a f*cking thing you say to them during conversation? Here's an example of what goes on during a normal conversation between me and a girl:

I'm saying: "...yeah my cat is white with orange and brown spots."
I'm thinking: oooo this girl has a nice rack

She's thinking: heeheehee I'm talking to a boy!
She's HEARING: "...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah..."

Notice how my words don't even register to the girl. If the girl is into you, you can pretty much say whatever you want as long as you don't threaten her or in any way insinuate that she's a wh*re. If she isn't into you, then there's nothing you can say to change her mind anyway, so move on.

The only way to get an emotional response is to talk ABOUT HER. You have to say something that is intended to trigger her emotions. That is where it gets fun.

Here's how I do it... I'll even order it if it makes you feel better:

First, I spot the girl.
Then, I say hi to her.
Follow with a couple minutes of playful banter.
Next, I piss her off. (use your imagination)
Then, I make her laugh.
Then, I make fun of her.
Then, I compliment her (or say something to make her feel good about herself)
Then, I repeat several times over the next 10 - 20 minutes.
......

So far, all I am doing is f*cking with her emotions. When I'm an as*hole one minute but compassionate the next, she gets confused. This also makes her want to f*ck me for some reason. I'm not going to insert dialogue, partly because I'm assuming that everyone reading this isn't a f*cking moron and can figure out on their own how to tease or compliment a girl. But the last part is absolutely critical:

I INVITE HER TO MY PLACE

...not for sex of course. I was just making fun of her shoes, and she hasn't seen awesome shoes until she sees my shoe collection... or my book about shoes... or whatever reason I can come up with to get her to my place. It doesn't really matter because she knows we're just going back there to f*ck each other's brains out. She just wants to justify it for reasons other than the fact that she's a f*cking slut.

So here's "dbot's Method"
1. Mindf*ck her.
2. Bring her home.
3. Pu*sy-f*ck her.

See how simple that is? It works almost every time.

Wow...So furious right now...

Like seriously, spoken like someone who's never suffered in their entire lives.

Now I'm not gonna bust balls by TOO much but PLEASE...let it occure to you that not everybody gets everything they want whenever they want it. If were it that simple, this site would NOT EXIST and dating would be an automated protocall...Not a "game".
Some of us has pretty much been to the HELL of social torture. Sh!t...When I was yur age I was getting my ass wooped if I was so much as caught talking to a female student by one of the "popular frat-boys"
Tell me....Have you ever been bullied before? You know what...never mind...I could go on for days...
Just know that for those of us who AREN'T naturals....Yea, it IS far more complicated that you could possibly imagine.

 

[soshdog]

Dbot nailed it! People saying it won't work on certain chicks need to check their ego. You don't need sophisticated game once you "get it." My success with women has fluctuated to extremely successful to horrible dry spells. When I am successful, my mindset is exactly like Dbot's. I already assume they want to get fu-cked (because they do) and focus on presenting the situation so that they won't feel like a slut. The focus is 2 things:

1. Give them an out so they don't feel like a slut.
2. Don't let them manipulate me into a relationship.

It's exactly why I don't like clubs. When you go to a club or dance, you are communicating "I am trying." The proof: What guy would go to a club if there were not girls? Say what you want, but only gay guys would go to a club just to dance and have fun. Straight guys are much more goal oriented. Let's be real. So you're already communicating that you are willing to do something not fun and go out of your way just to try to get a girl. It gives the chicks way too much value.

They don't have value. Yeah if I'm studying at Starbucks or at the grocery store and I see a chick I like, I will try to pick her up. But I am not going out of my way to be there just for her. She's not that important. Don't go out of your way for these biatches. I mean you won't pick up chicks whacking to internet porn and playing video games either. Go out and kick a-ss in your life. Just get out of the house and during your regular daily activities be ready to close close close!

 

[Purefilth]

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[g0dm0d3]

dbot is getting married on sunday i invite you all to come. there will be free cake and lots of hot women in romantic mood. you should bring a gift and all your best pickup books to impress the chicks.

 

[JohnChops]

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thanks for the bump purefilth easy to get distracted with everything on here but forget how easy it actually is. this is the only post needed on this site.