It's no secret: "The Secret" and the "Law of Attraction" are BULLSH*T

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I am a firm believer that you can do anything you put your mind to. The problem is, that books like the secret, sale positive imgary as some type of pops physcolcaiy bull**** that it's so easy. Really this isn't even up for debate.

Come on man you are better than this.


But you have to keep in mind.. the avg person, if you asked 100 people to think about 1 thing they really would want in life, no holes barred, they would tell you what it was, and then if you asked them, could they achieve that, they would say no., the avg person would.

The secret, is nothing more than the very very first step in a long line of steps, it's not THE step. It's the step to to convince first and foremost yourself that you can do what you want, whatever that is may be. Atfter that comes detailed planning, a real game plan to achieve what it is you want down to the detail, hard work, and patience, and a never yielding believe in yourself above all else.

What the secret does, and this is what people are missing, is 1-2-5 years down the line when things aren't going exactly like you want, you have to stay positive, you have to honestly KNOW you are going to achieve what that this is you want. Too many people give up after the first sign of resistance, after the first tribulation, the secret is not going to magically put you in a balloon and take you from Baltic Avg to park place,it's more of a base mindset throughout your journey.

You CAN DO WHATEVER it is you want to do, do not let anyone ever tell you otherwise. I've dumped a woman before for even questioning what I want to do with my life once she caught wind how serious I was. I don't associate with negative thinking people AT ALL. I have total faith in myself that with the right plan of action, patience and learning from the mistakes I make along any path I chose, I will get to my desiccation, whatever destination that may be. Unlike most however, I also realize, that there will be trails and tribulations and there will be alot of hard knocks along the way, and I am okay with that.

That does not mean, it will happen over night, and it does not mean that there is no work involved. it simply means that all things are possible. The more you think about something, the more your mind becomes fixated on something, the more you plan and hone your goals.


Alot here know my story. I won't go over it all again. But I remember one day, just a regular ass weekday. AT the time, I was flat broke. I had a hole in one of my shoes. I was driving a car, that needed like 1000 worth of repair work and only one of the headlights worked, I was overweight, not because I didn't give a **** about my health but becuase I could not afford to eat anhything other than ramen noodles and 1 dollar pizzas lol. I was basically wearing hand me downs by this point. I was 20 at the time, i was the winter. I remember that day, becuase my friends were going on Christmas vacation in college that year, they were seniors, I had decided not to go to college to start my business. They are musicians, good ones actually, at the time they had a song on the local radio that was getting regular spin, about overcoming adversity and "making it" so speak, i round it ironic that they at the time, pretty much could not find time for me, and growing up, we were inseparable. Life teaches you things, adversity teaches you things, truths about life.

That day it hit me that they were only a few months from having a degree and in that same time, what have I done? Actually I had done a hell of alot but not much to show for it.

This day, one of the few days we had a little extra money, I decided to treat myself to some real food, and went to Chili's, carry out. As I walked in, I looked around at all the cute girls my age and all the people having fun, and for some reason, that **** just hurt. How everyone at that time, paid you the least bit of attention, how at the time honestly, you would have glanced over yourself had you saw yourself in the mirror. How you look at the waitress and place your order ,and she's nice, but you can tell she isn't interested in you in fact no one is lol. How I would have ot take my meal and go back to my apartment and sleep on the floor, as i have done for the last 18 months becuase I reused to spend any more money on me than I could, everything went into the business.

HOw at that point, I wanted absolutely nothing more than to just be normal. Just be able to go to chili's wearing decent clothes, driving a decent car, not great, just a car that looked normal lol, maybe with friends, maybe with some girls, didn't' matter at that point, and just have a good time, maybe go watch a basketball game. AT that point, I didn't want to be rich. I didn't want women, I just wanted to be normal. A normal 20 year old. Bad. It has stopped being about being "rich" or "Making it" a lONG time ago. There comes a point in a big venture, whatever it is your dream is, that you just want to be RIGHT lol. I wanted nothing more than to know all the scariices I made, all the hard work I put in were for something and not for nothing, nothing more nothing less.

Thereis nothing in life without the struggle to get it. Struggles, sharpens ambition, toughens character and prepares you for what you want. The secret does not let you bypass this natural process, it simply keeps you through the correct mindset through the process.

It's days like that, that the secret comes into play. Mind you, this day, was, almost 2 years into my business venture. The avg person, would have thrown in the towel a long time ago. What most would have done is gotten a "real job" and waited for the business to pick up. I did that at first, but the second I thought we could sell 1 pc a day I quit, we could live off 1 pc a day and did for about a year. not great but still. W'hat you are giving up is TIME and time is just as important as money. Even at 20 I understood this concept, i could not replace those 30-40 hours a week in my business, the learning, etc. This was going to work, or i was going to die trying.

Never yielding, regardless of that you are going through, no matter how rough times get, no matter what things may look like on the outside. No matter what your parents say, no matter how stupid people think you're, no matter how stupid you think you are at times, that you can and you will. But no one says, it will be easy. It might or not happen like you want it to happen. It might take some bumps, and some bruises, but it will happen. IN that 2 years, we had been through it all. Been ripped off by more than one business or thousands of dollars, I had no lie, I had no money, I had no friends, at that point I didn't even have family they had all but disowned me, I didn't even get invited for thanksgiving or Christmas that year.


Tough times make good leaders and weed out the contenders from the pretenders, and the secret is the mindset of the contenders. I had no thread to the book at that point in my life but ater I read it, it wasn't anything I didn't 'already know.

I remember, that was December. The next July, my fourtanes had drasitlclay changed. Business has taken off to the point, where we sent from 1 room in our apartment, to a small office, to a bigger office in a span of 7 months. WE now had I think like 5 employees, we were selling 10-12 pc's a day. I had gotten my decent car, a lexus sc400 that I had kept all the way up utnil i got robbed this year. that car was sentimental to me because it was the first thin I ever bought with my business money. I had my own place now, with a bed! lol. I went from about 190lbs, to about 160lbs once I could afford to eat right I worked out like a mad man. I had good clothes now. My friends, now wanted to hang around me.

I remember I want shopping on saturday,l bout like 2 grand worth of ****. Just went and had some fun. That night we went to that same chli's, and the waitress slipped me her phone number. Cutie pie too.

Cord asked me the other day here, why do I still run my business, if I don't particular care for it. The same reason that I still run wind sprints up my hill outside 3 days a week in the morning when I wake up even though I ****ing hate it, because I want the end result. And yes truth be told I don't have to, I could stop. When I wake up, the only thing on my mind, besides kissing my fiancee and my son, is getting one step closer to my final goal and I map my day around that. Everything I do, is to become the final image of the person I wish to be, even to coming here on this forum. Every book I read, every news article I read, every minute spent in everyday, is with my definite chief purpose in mind. When I take time off, it's to unwind so I can get back to work with a clear mind. My aim every night is to get the best sleep possible to give me the best head start the next day so I can achieve my definate cheif aim. It means, doing some things you don't want to do, to get where you ulimtanty need to get. There is no question in my mind, that I am going to achieve what it is I feel like that is my purpose for being here. I believe I was given the gift of having a very strong mind, I'm extremely creative and I have not yet met a person who is willing to work harder than I am, combine that with the fact, that you can't shake me, There is nothing that can happen to me that would make me not believe in myself, I will get up every time.. it doesn't become a matter of if, it is simply a matter of when.


Truth be told, I was the same person than, as I was when I went back then in December. The only difference was that my dreams had not come to full fruition yet. But I knew all along, what the end result was going to be even if no one else could see it. That's what' the secret is all about.
 
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I think "The Secret" and "Law of Attraction" and other various new-age manifestation teachings are based upon the simple concept of the self-fulfilling prophecy. They just put on way too much window dressing and many get lost in the details.

Is it so hard to believe that individuals guide their destinies, though nearly always unconsciously, as a self-fulfilling prophecy? Those who have "made themselves" are firm in the belief that an individual may grasp the reigns of his life, and guide it to his place of choosing rather than as a haphazard leaf on the wind. This is the most manly and empowering belief that you may harbor, that it is within your power to take hold of the reigns and make yourself whatever you deem.

I believe in the simple truth of Christ's sermon on the mount, where he said, "Seek, and ye shall find." I believe that this is exactly what we do, though nearly always unconsciously. Whatever we believe is true, is what we will seek proof of, and we will always find it.

So if you believe that you are helpless and cannot make yourself what you will, you will find proof of that. But if you believe that you can, that you can make yourself whatever you will, you find proof of this as well, though this road is often the rougher one.
 

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Do you know why the Rich get richer and the poor get poorer?

I think its a statement we all hear from time to time but do we really understand the meaning. Some people may think its unfair and will deny it, but looking at real life it maybe closer to the truth.

My dad who left the philippines for America had friends who were just getting by and struggling. 20 years later he comes back to see his friends, and felt sorry for them because they were still just getting by and struggling.

Did they not work hard enough? Were they not good enough to have they wanted and need? I think what happened here and to many others is when they looked at their life and see poverty, struggle and suffering, in their mind they acknowledged and accepted as the way it is. They talk about how bad it is, feel bad about it, have fights and struggle over not having enough. When the mind has 80% of repeatitve thoughts, what do you think happened on the outside? Now with the rich when they look at their life they are constantly affirming thinking and talking about the abundance, the cars, the houses, thats already theirs. Thus they enjoy life even more and more abundance is increased.

I think once we accept that each of us is 100% responsible for what happens in our life and not the fault of outside circumstances, then we can begin living life.
 

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I will say that one trait that I know I have, that most people don't have, and it can be a bad thing, but it can be a good thing too, Is I blame myself for everything. I don't blame other people for things, I always look for the errors in my ways. If a woman rejects me Id on't blame her I try to see what I did. If I am broke, or when I was broke or when something wasn't working in business I didn't' blame it on society I just figured I was trying something or doing something wrong. And I was.


The truth is, we cause alot of our own problems even i we dont' want to admit it. Every decision I have made in my life has led me to where I am now, the good and the bad.

The bad wit that is, I'm quite hard on myself, but I would have it no other way. I push myself quite hard. I like that about me. I expect alot out of me because I know what I am capable of. I am always trying to see how muchI can get done in a day, always trying to push bounderies. I like that about me. I fail alot, but I'm not afraid of failure, it's a necessary part of success.
 

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Do you know why the Rich get richer and the poor get poorer?

I think what happened here and to many others is when they looked at their life and see poverty, struggle and suffering, in their mind they acknowledged and accepted as the way it is.

Now with the rich when they look at their life they are constantly affirming thinking and talking about the abundance, the cars, the houses, thats already theirs. Thus they enjoy life even more and more abundance is increased.
Lmao, dude what Zig Zigler book did you read that out of? The rich don't keep getting richer because they are mostly positive people that think great thoughts lmao, do you know anybody that's financially well off? Most of them don't even have a real personality and alot of them are snobs. Negative about everything, stuck up, with horrible personalities. I know these people, I work with them all the time.

The rich get richer based upon what they KNOW, INFORMATION, that most of us don't have access to. The main thing that separates the rich and the poor is access to INFORMATION, NOT positive thoughts.

"Everybody else" puts their retirement money in stocks and bonds and mutual funds, the RICH have special financial vehicles that most people have never HEARD OF to invest their money in. The RICH have access to a shytload of tax breaks that MOST people have never HEARD OF. The RICH make money on stocks BEFORE the general public even hears about the stock, when you hear about the stock most of the money has already been made.

You guys are out of your mind with this positive thinking shyt lol, yes positive thinking is good and it makes you feel all "special" inside but will you please get serious?

There's a REASON that only 1% - 3% of the entire American population is financially well-off, why about 10% of the population controls MAJORITY of the wealth, it's not because they sit around thinking positive thoughts all day (smh), it's because they have access to INFORMATION that most people don't have access to, or, they have special TALENTS that most people don't have, or BOTH.
 

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Lmao, dude what Zig Zigler book did you read that out of? The rich don't keep getting richer because they are mostly positive people that think great thoughts lmao, do you know anybody that's financially well off? Most of them don't even have a real personality and alot of them are snobs. Negative about everything, stuck up, with horrible personalities. I know these people, I work with them all the time.

The rich get richer based upon what they KNOW, INFORMATION, that most of us don't have access to. The main thing that separates the rich and the poor is access to INFORMATION, NOT positive thoughts.

"Everybody else" puts their retirement money in stocks and bonds and mutual funds, the RICH have special financial vehicles that most people have never HEARD OF to invest their money in. The RICH have access to a shytload of tax breaks that MOST people have never HEARD OF. The RICH make money on stocks BEFORE the general public even hears about the stock, when you hear about the stock most of the money has already been made.

You guys are out of your mind with this positive thinking shyt lol, yes positive thinking is good and it makes you feel all "special" inside but will you please get serious?

There's a REASON that only 1% - 3% of the entire American population is financially well-off, why about 10% of the population controls MAJORITY of the wealth, it's not because they sit around thinking positive thoughts all day (smh), it's because they have access to INFORMATION that most people don't have access to, or, they have special TALENTS that most people don't have, or BOTH.
I work with in a small real estate company that currently manages the finances and asset base of over 200 millionaires (over $1m in assets), including some with net worths over $30 million.

What I see from my contact with them that 'sets them apart' is a "Do it now, try anyways" attitude. Very persistent and tenacious personalities, always looking for the next opportunity and never afraid to fail or look stupid.

The three fundamentals of achieving wealth, from my second hand experience, are:

1. Attitude
2. Knowledge
3. Luck

All the millionaires I know professionally are very well educated on topics like tax code, real estate, politics, accounting.

Some are also very lucky, in that perhaps 5,000 individuals do the same thing but perhaps 5-10 do the same thing that just happens to coincide with a political or technological event that makes them very wealthy. Timing, whether by foresight or luck, is very important.
 

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Quik you are for the most part correct, however, I would replace the word "luck" with "opportunity." A business owner sees a great location to open up a restaurant, that's not "luck," that's opportunity. Successful people constantly dig and search for opportunities. Luck is what alot of folks use to describe success when they don't understand how the process works.

And you are totally correct on the tenacity portion, there's NO business owner that succeeds without tenacity because you have to endure through so many constant ups and downs, changes, upgrades, and the critical thinking is painful at times. Being creative is stressful at times. This is why I shoot down this "positive thinking" "everybody can do anything" crap because it takes a TALENTED individual to succeed in business. I think unreasonable expectations are given to people through these self-improvement "rally" style books and seminars that end up causing people to commit suicide and/or go bankrupt.

I'm doing pretty good now in my career and while I wouldn't say I'm a "know it all," I assure you that success in business and success period has MORE to do with knowledge, talent, and resources, vs. positive thinking and faith. I'm a church guy, so I'm not against faith and optimism, but I would say they represent less then 10% of what's needed to succeed.

Rookies and novices jump out into entrepreneurship every month, FULL of faith and positive thinking, but they rapidly lose faith when they realize the realities of the situation. They realize they lack knowledge, abilities, and RESOURCES and have NO IDEA how to obtain them because NO BOOK will teach you good strategies. The strategies in the books are ALL OUTDATED and worked 5 or 10 or more years ago, they won't do **** today.

That's why most of them quit! That's why most startups fail! The person running it either isn't talented, didn't open it up based on factual information (as far as real opportunity is concerned), or perhaps LACKED the resources (financing, the right people, etc). It's NOT because they lacked positive thinking.

Smh @ this "law of attraction" shyt. I think it was one of the main contributors to the 2008 financial crisis with all of these Burger King fry droppers trying to flip Real Estate when they don't even own the Real Estate they are living in!
 

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Smh @ this "law of attraction" shyt. I think it was one of the main contributors to the 2008 financial crisis with all of these Burger King fry droppers trying to flip Real Estate when they don't even own the Real Estate they are living in!
Are you kidding me? Do you think millions of people in each state foreclosed because everyone was trying to flip houses across the country? LOL! My opinion is that they had a scheme where the government made it mandatory for anyone that applied for home loans were approved. Even with no past credit or bad credit, anyone and everyone was accepted. They also did the same with credit cards making it readily available to anyone with a large credit balance.

With the sudden demand for houses created a race to build houses everywhere. Then they overvalued houses that were getting on the market. Everything was fine and dandy until Lehman Brothers happened, after that jobs began to disappear, they retracted credit availability and called in payments to be paid. People now with interest payments to the house and interest payments to credit cards they couldn't keep up with thus forced them to file for bankruptcy.

Technically, your semi right with the law of attraction causing the crisis. When people kept applying for multiple credit cards going deeper in debt, a home loan they couldn't pay for, they affirmed in their mind that money was scarce and needed to borrow money. It was just multiplied millions of times across the country and magnified to effect the entire economic system.
 

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True and the current state of the job market is a direct result of how companies responded to that 2008 crisis. They significantly reduced their overhead, labor, and other bottom line costs and started doing more with less people. That's why alot of the major companies and alot of thriving businesses in general have a much higher profitability margin, it's because of their lower overhead.

The people getting shafted are the middle class in this. They were the ones leveraged in the scam by Wallstreet and the Government causing them to lose their house, lose their credit, alot of them lost their jobs and have been employed SINCE, ON TOP OF the horrible fiscal and regulatory policies of the government that have SKY ROCKETED food and energy prices. The manufacturing sector is overseas now based on horrible trade policies. And YOU guys talk about the law of attraction? So I guess the middle class ATTRACTED that shyt to them then?

Slowly and slowly, we are creating two categories of people in this country, those at the top and those at the very bottom. BLAME the Government and Big Business. Majority of the tax code and regulatory polices are drafted by big business, to increase their profits and market share and cut out the little guy, you just ought to see the shyt that Walmart gets as a result of their lobbying. Walmart gets all TYPES of breaks and when a Walmart is being built in an area alot of small businesses just say fvck it and close their damn doors because they can't compete with the shyt.

Corruption. Everyone talks about capitalism, yet, BIG BUSINESS constantly lobbies the government for socialism through the tax code and regulatory policies. I'm conservative as hell, free market guy, but I call a crook when I see one.

We need to clean up the government and make it smaller, and let BIG BUSINESS, medium business, and small business truly compete fairly in a capitalist market. Let those with the best services, products, and innovation win, NOT those with the most lobbyists. Then we can start to bring back the middle class and get a decent unemployment rate again. The unemployment rate is fvcked up because small and medium businesses are being fvcked up. Small and medium businesses are the ones that hire majority of these folks and that won't happen until the two crooks (Government and Big Business) stop the schemes.

Notice how that over the last couple years or so, the MAIN two sectors that have seen growth has been the GOVERNMENT and BIG BUSINESS (Wallstreet). The stock market is well over 12k and we all know that the government is bigger then it has ever been before.
 

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Some people just weren't cut out to be successful. Some people, have talent but don't like taking personal responsibility for things. Some people have a strong drive and not much talent.

In my line of work I see alot of business plans, and a lot of ideas. I can count on one hand, in more than 2 years, the ones that I would consider to be anywhere near my level or above it. Most aren't well though out at all, are under funded for what they are trying to do, etc.

Then you have guys like this freelance graphic guy who I am dealing with, who actually, has talent. Real talent. And the talent, has made me put up with alot of his lackadaisical about what he does. He just doesn't have any drive. It's nothing but excuses after excuses, when things get bad or time crunching he runs and hides and makes me deal with clients.



you can tell alot about a person with how they handle adversity. Alot of people want to start a business or work for themselves when things are good. When bills fall behind, or clients get pissed and don't like work or work is late.. you just can't run and hide. you still have to face the music, rather or not you like the tune that is being played, because that's your responsibility.

There are alot of things, that you don't want to do, or don't want to face, that going into being the person you want to ultimately be and get where you ultimately want to go. The problem is, alot of people just aren't willing to put up with that from my experience.




When people kept applying for multiple credit cards going deeper in debt, a home loan they couldn't pay for, they affirmed in their mind that money was scarce and needed to borrow money.
Don't confuse the law of attraction or outright stupidity. WE have alot of financially ignorant people buying houses that they could not afford. It's as simple as that. A person who would have used the law of attraction to buy a home would have more than did their homework. There are stages to achieve anything you want in live. 1. Figure out what you want, 2. define a definite course of action, 3. study your market/opponent/opposition 4. excuse your plan without fail. 5. learn from your failures along the way.
 

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you can tell alot about a person with how they handle adversity. Alot of people want to start a business or work for themselves when things are good. When bills fall behind, or clients get pissed and don't like work or work is late.. you just can't run and hide. you still have to face the music

It's the same with leadership in general. Every guy wants to be the leader, until things go wrong and everyone else turns to them in a panic.
 

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True and the current state of the job market is a direct result of how companies responded to that 2008 crisis. They significantly reduced their overhead, labor, and other bottom line costs and started doing more with less people. That's why alot of the major companies and alot of thriving businesses in general have a much higher profitability margin, it's because of their lower overhead.
And they do this by constantly repeating: "The times are tough, you're lucky you have a job, work harder or you're fired."

Productivity is at an all time high right now.

We need to clean up the government and make it smaller, and let BIG BUSINESS, medium business, and small business truly compete fairly in a capitalist market. Let those with the best services, products, and innovation win, NOT those with the most lobbyists. Then we can start to bring back the middle class and get a decent unemployment rate again. The unemployment rate is fvcked up because small and medium businesses are being fvcked up. Small and medium businesses are the ones that hire majority of these folks and that won't happen until the two crooks (Government and Big Business) stop the schemes.
If you want to talk capitalist market you should see Somalia. Everything and anything goes. That's capitalism. What you're describing is a form of control through regulation that should apply to everyone and not just the company with the most lobbyists and the deepest pockets. A fair and regulated market where companies aren't allowed to sell securities rated AAA rating but really contain D and CCC rated contents, a fair and regulated market where companies don't receive public funding or "bailouts" to stay afloat. What is this, communist Russia?

Notice how that over the last couple years or so, the MAIN two sectors that have seen growth has been the GOVERNMENT and BIG BUSINESS (Wallstreet).
Government doesn't really create wealth. They feed off it, like a parasite through taxation, asset seizures, etc. Business creates wealth and money whether big or small.
 

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I present to you exhibit A, this is the avg guy I get emailed by on a daily basis trying to start a new business.
Doesn't sound very bright but hey, it's his money and you're getting paid for your services to make him a website. There's money right, not just jerking you around?
 

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Oh I will treat him as respectful as I possibly can. I don't stereotype clients, you never know what their financial situation is like, and all money is green. I'm just pointing out.. this is your avg guy's makeup of who goes into business.
 

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The Law of Attraction is diametrically opposed, and inversely proportional to the Law of the Jinx. Thus they cancel one another out.

Universal Law of the Jinx
A jinx, in popular superstition and folklore, is:

• A sort of curse placed on a person that makes them prey to large numbers of minor misfortunes and other forms of bad luck;
• A person afflicted with a similar curse, who, while not directly subject to a series of misfortunes, seems to attract them to anyone in his general area.
• An object that brings bad luck.
• A common slang term used when two people say the same thing at the same time (said as a game amongst the young).


The superstition is sometimes used when talking about a future event with too much confidence. A statement like "We're sure to win the contest!" can be seen as a jinx by tempting fate. After such a statement, failure would be ironic. For the human mind, the irony makes it all the more likely. This therefore brings bad luck: it is a "jinx". The event itself is referred to as "jinxed"


Casinos are full of guys with a positive mindset. The guys who own casinos are very glad they do.
 

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