It Finally Sunk in....Marriage

[Bible_Belt]

My cousin is a stay at home dad. His wife pulls in $250k, in an area with a very low cost of living, so they are loaded. If they got divorced, he would get the kids because he is the primary caregiver. He'd get half her income for 15 years as child support, plus another hefty cut for several years as alimony on top of that.

 

[BeExcellent]

My cousin is a stay at home dad. His wife pulls in $250k, in an area with a very low cost of living, so they are loaded. If they got divorced, he would get the kids because he is the primary caregiver. He'd get half her income for 15 years as child support, plus another hefty cut for several years as alimony on top of that.

That was me as well after my ex husband’s nightclub ownership days were over. Getting divorced without losing everything was the single most important negotiation of my life.

I made more than your cousin’s wife & also had assets beyond just my high income.

The courts seek to evenly distribute things. This is typically unfavorable to the breadwinning partner and it doesn’t matter which partner that is (wife or husband).

The community here assumes the high earner is always the man, but that isn’t always the case.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Is rationally speaking, NOT a good decision for men. I'm nearing the end of The Rational Male and it finally sunk in that marriage truly only benefits women from a psychological, societal, and even legal standpoint. It's disturbing how men, including myself wanted to get married without realizing the gravity of what I'd be signing up for....what I'd be signing away in the process. I used to think with my **** regarding marriage but after learning about competition anxiety, comparing it to my own experiences....**** man. What the **** was I thinking!?

I red the Rationale male.
I was in your same situation before I red the rationale Male. While reading it i just wanted (and i still want) to spread as much sperm as i can. If yuo watch the kings, emperors, ecc. before christianity, they were polygamus, for example Alexander had 3 wives, Pryam had more than 100 sons, there're many examples.

I never think in absolute terms, but anyone who tells that rollo is wrong on something, he can go **** hemself, he ain't red pilled. All the things Rollo said you can see them happening in real life. On this forum there are people who thinks they are red pilled, and then follows Jordan B. Peterson, and make new threads on how to get back wives/girlfriends. Blue pilled with red coloring, and a supplement tablet of self-righteousness.


Follow the male mating strategy.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Marriage doesn’t benefit women either. It benefits families. Nothing else.

get the red pill

 

[Bible_Belt]

That was me as well after my ex husband’s nightclub ownership days were over. Getting divorced without losing everything was the single most important negotiation of my life.

I made more than your cousin’s wife & also had assets beyond just my high income.

The courts seek to evenly distribute things. This is typically unfavorable to the breadwinning partner and it doesn’t matter which partner that is (wife or husband).

The community here assumes the high earner is always the man, but that isn’t always the case.

Illinois recently passed an alimony statute that awards alimony for a duration of years that equal those of the marriage, once 20 years is hit. At 10 years of marriage, it is about 5 years of alimony. I recently helped a woman with a divorce, warning her that the husband could take half her paycheck for the next 20 years, more like 2/3 actually. Turns out he was too cheap to get a good lawyer, too ignorant to learn the law, and too concerned with his small town reputation to even ask for the alimony due to him by law. He would have gotten about a quarter mil over the next 20 years and is old enough so that he never would have had to work again. Ignorance can be expensive. So can pride.

 

[Medina]

I red the Rationale male.
I was in your same situation before I red the rationale Male. While reading it i just wanted (and i still want) to spread as much sperm as i can. If yuo watch the kings, emperors, ecc. before christianity, they were polygamus, for example Alexander had 3 wives, Pryam had more than 100 sons, there're many examples.

I never think in absolute terms, but anyone who tells that rollo is wrong on something, he can go **** hemself, he ain't red pilled. All the things Rollo said you can see them happening in real life. On this forum there are people who thinks they are red pilled, and then follows Jordan B. Peterson, and make new threads on how to get back wives/girlfriends. Blue pilled with red coloring, and a supplement tablet of self-righteousness.


Follow the male mating strategy.

OP already said he doesn't care about history and is only interested in himself

While others have conveyed complete disinterest in having legacy/offspring

I know the word "cuck" is overused but for once I find it's appropriate

Imagine not caring your genes will die out, while other males breed on

And this is a place where the word "alpha male" is thrown around

Henry VIII went through 6 wives and tore the state apart to acquire his heir

The Irish high King, Niall, has 3 million descendants

Marriage or not. Let's at least see the bigger picture

 

[Bible_Belt]

I think all they have to go on in determining who initiated the divorce is which gender is the petitioner, the first to file. It could actually be higher, if you define initiating as moving on with several new relationships, then finally the man files to tie up loose ends. He's not really the one who initiated in that scenario.

 

[Trump]

Whats the point of marriage

Two-fold:

1) Follow the masses
2) Give the powers that be more money

If society shamed married couples to no end, similar to they way they shame single men today, there would be a lot less marriages.

 

[BeExcellent]

Illinois recently passed an alimony statute that awards alimony for a duration of years that equal those of the marriage, once 20 years is hit. At 10 years of marriage, it is about 5 years of alimony. I recently helped a woman with a divorce, warning her that the husband could take half her paycheck for the next 20 years, more like 2/3 actually. Turns out he was too cheap to get a good lawyer, too ignorant to learn the law, and too concerned with his small town reputation to even ask for the alimony due to him by law. He would have gotten about a quarter mil over the next 20 years and is old enough so that he never would have had to work again. Ignorance can be expensive. So can pride.

That was my ex as well. Thankfully although my state doesn't have such a statute, but he was too cheap to get his own lawyer and learn the laws. We worked out an agreement we found equitable that suited our situation, but it was based on trust and doing the things that benefit each of us and the children in the long run. And we are each holding up the bargain and I expect we always will.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Whats the point of marriage

+1

Its always trad cucks who argue don't marry the wrong one.

I by pass that by getting baaaaae and #next @ anything not fit, feminine, dtf, and aesthetic.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

OP already said he doesn't care about history and is only interested in himself

While others have conveyed complete disinterest in having legacy/offspring

I know the word "cuck" is overused but for once I find it's appropriate

Imagine not caring your genes will die out, while other males breed on

And this is a place where the word "alpha male" is thrown around

Henry VIII went through 6 wives and tore the state apart to acquire his heir

The Irish high King, Niall, has 3 million descendants

Marriage or not. Let's at least see the bigger picture

They also thought incest is a good idea to keep royal blood lulz.

If a man wants lineage, i guess he goes RooshV and drives across the universe to acquire a wife. He is trying but not doing it.

Cuck is thrown around but it is an example of how far the bar has dropped.

Royalty didnt marry a *****. Today, men marry *****s. Absolute cowardice and cucks.

A guy who is pedaling red pill and patriarchy by his own words was cucked and he married her. This is cuck.

The rational male book is fantastic at pointing out to the problems and pointing out that gender dynamics. It reveals SMV top form yet the author married epiphany phase. Chick who is aware SMV is decaying.

Epiphany phase is following the carousel. Cuck is in a woman wanting her cake and eating it too +++ a man follows her. The church is cucked. She finds God after skiing down cawk mountain. Dating single mom is the height of stupidity in signin up for your own cucking. #pathetic

The laws and women get access to your resources. You sign away freedom and bachelor life by default. Following your genes blindly is what gets men cucked in the SMP today.

Everyone has a theory. Few actually live it.

 

[Von]

Women always complain about what they have,and then want more.

The only way to make women happy is to instaure her boderies, which make her FEEL she is at the top of her chances.

Be good about it

 

[Spaz]

This is all good and very candid.

BUT... (and I've read some of Rollo's book, not all)

It does lead me to believe he has field tested very little of his own material, except on his wife. He said he became Red Pilled after he got married.

I'm not disagreeing with his principles as I agree with many/most of them. However, some of his teachings I don't find all that accurate and tend to drive men WAY down the Red Pill rabbit hole whereby they get very myopic and lose their ability to critically think. I read it on SS all the time.

It's is kind of like learning how to start/run/grow a business from an economics professor at a university who teaches from a theoretical perspective because he's never actually started or owned a business (I actually have a friend who does this).

Anyone else have this concern?

His Hypergamy theory which has many men believing in it, has basically turned more men into victims, psychologically feeding them the need to supplicate more to women in order to keep them around or going full retard with MGTOW.

If men were to think and act as apex predators, you think hypergamy exists?

Women will be used, 3 holes abused and long before she can even consider monkey branching, she's dismissed for a more younger entertaining replacement.

But marriage should occur when a man has done his deed of sowing the earth with his seed, to carry on his legacy via his sons, males that will carry on his Y chromosome down the line.

He should pass his knowledge, his culture, his wealth, his genetic strength to better secure the legacy he has placed on earth during his lifetime.

For that you men should ask urselfs, what have each and every men here has done to deserve a legacy?

Chasing women? Phulease...

Chase excellence, be a mother fvcking great man.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Yes I agree the final task is spread the genes, marriage is an artificial social convention that serves the femminine. The male mating strategy it's a natural drive due to all the evolutionary/biological stuffs.....

and by the way a guy can have offsprings without getting married or being involved in a relationship.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

They also thought incest is a good idea to keep royal blood lulz.

Royalty didnt marry a *****. Today, men marry *****s. Absolute cowardice and cucks.

TAlking of Roman and HEllenic civilization Never heard of a roman emperor/dictator/king/consul and Greek king (i'm not talking of the gods and heros of the Roman and Greek mythology), Alexander married 3 barbarians, 2 persians and 1 sogdian from Bactria, and he married due to political reasons (in fact the generals didn't like it ), the tradition was greeks married greeks, not barberians, . IN ancient europe incest arrived after christianity

If a man wants lineage, i guess he goes RooshV and drives across the universe to acquire a wife. He is trying but not doing it.

He went in Romania, he's beta to me, If you're alpha, you're are everywhere, alpha is how alpha does. You fvck pussies abroad in vacation, you don't go on a quest to fvck pvssy to get a wife, in this way he's making a prospective woman his goal, that's not right. He's putting her on pedestal even before meeting her.

I think he watched too much cheap eastern european porn.

The laws and women get access to your resources. You sign away freedom and bachelor life by default. Following your genes blindly is what gets men cucked in the SMP today.

Not every country has U.S. laws

 

[Medina]

They also thought incest is a good idea to keep royal blood lulz.

If a man wants lineage, i guess he goes RooshV and drives across the universe to acquire a wife. He is trying but not doing it.

Cuck is thrown around but it is an example of how far the bar has dropped.

Royalty didnt marry a *****. Today, men marry *****s. Absolute cowardice and cucks.

A guy who is pedaling red pill and patriarchy by his own words was cucked and he married her. This is cuck.

The rational male book is fantastic at pointing out to the problems and pointing out that gender dynamics. It reveals SMV top form yet the author married epiphany phase. Chick who is aware SMV is decaying.

Epiphany phase is following the carousel. Cuck is in a woman wanting her cake and eating it too +++ a man follows her. The church is cucked. She finds God after skiing down cawk mountain. Dating single mom is the height of stupidity in signin up for your own cucking. #pathetic

The laws and women get access to your resources. You sign away freedom and bachelor life by default. Following your genes blindly is what gets men cucked in the SMP today.

Everyone has a theory. Few actually live it.

Bro, lineage is the most important thing the feminists have destroyed. Its the only thing bigger than one self. The only thing that lives on.

A man's right to be a Father and the king of his castle. It sickens me that so many lines will die out

Its already happened. London is no longer an English city. They were easily outbred by cultures who do not practice feminism. Cultures that take marriage and lineage very seriously indeed. They dominate their women like were are supposed to

While westerners self-destruct like clowns in our lands

Western women use cats or even RODENTS as child replacement, disgusting and pathetic

A dominant man would have done her a FAVOR by ending her nonsense and at the same securing our legacy

Women = chaos. Men =order

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

OP already said he doesn't care about history and is only interested in himself

While others have conveyed complete disinterest in having legacy/offspring

I know the word "cuck" is overused but for once I find it's appropriate

Imagine not caring your genes will die out, while other males breed on

And this is a place where the word "alpha male" is thrown around

Henry VIII went through 6 wives and tore the state apart to acquire his heir

The Irish high King, Niall, has 3 million descendants

Marriage or not. Let's at least see the bigger picture

i fvucked up with buttons

this was the response:

Yes I agree the final task is spread the genes, marriage is an artificial social convention that serves the femminine. The male mating strategy it's a natural drive due to all the evolutionary/biological stuffs.....

and by the way a guy can have offsprings without getting married or being involved in a relationship.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Bro, lineage is the most important thing the feminists have destroyed. Its the only thing bigger than one self. The only thing that lives on.

A man's right to be a Father and the king of his castle. It sickens me that so many lines will die out

right, and i want to outline you don't need to be married to be a father or be in a LTR.

 

[Spaz]

right, and i want to outline you don't need to be married to be a father or be in a LTR.

Yes, that's true, a man doesn't need to be married or be in an LTR but then ur sons will be raised by a single mom who thinks she can train her sons to be men but that training is actually a representation of HOW she wants to be treated by OTHER men.

And that's not how a boy turns into a man, every fvcking men here knows it unless he's a fvcking feminine piece of shiet.

Or ur baby momma will get herself one of the many hungry cuck-able men willing to marry a single mommy.

And he then trains ur sons as his own with his cuck-able values.

So either way, in the end, ur son's becomes fvcked up in the head and they'll prolly end up being cucked.

Boy's don't automatically turn into men, they need to be trained into one.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Yes, that's true, a man doesn't need to be married or be in an LTR but then ur sons will be raised by a single mom who thinks she can train her sons to be men but that training is actually a representation of HOW she wants to be treated by OTHER men.

And that's not how a boy turns into a man, every fvcking men here knows it unless he's a fvcking feminine piece of shiet.

Or ur baby momma will get herself one of the many hungry cuck-able men willing to marry a single mommy.

And he then trains ur sons as his own with his cuck-able values.

So either way, in the end, ur son's becomes fvcked up in the head and they'll prolly end up being cucked.

Boy's don't automatically turn into men, they need to be trained into one.

I think that's pretty much obvious, but my point was the male mating strategy, spreading as much sperm as you can. If you're alpha and a woman as a genuine desire to get ****ed, her drive is to get pregnant with your sperm. I can write a post long peges about this.

I don't know where you live but I say again, not every country has U.S. laws.

If a guy wants to be present in his life son, he can educate him in the weekends. And by the way Think the school system is as much dangerous as single mothers. The stupidest exmple in the tv is two and half men, look at Jake (i'm not talking about his stupidity) how turned out thanks at his uncle