It doesn't get more AFC than this...
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lol, this guy is a kid, he posted his pic on the anything else forum. Just ignore the advice, one day he might grow up and make a usefull contribution to the board.Originally posted by Titus
What the fukk is this shyt? You've got to be kidding, man. This isn't true. If you want attention, try another way.You'll get better results. And even better, respect.
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i hope the original poster keeps karma in mind.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
To answer your question, I run a computer company in Arkansas, but as far as the handgun, it's my 2nd amendment right, so why not? I hope I never have to use it, but I refuse to not be ready TO use it if necessary.
As far as karma, I don't go around intentionally hurting people. Hell, our Board of Directors gets on me and my business partner because we really have more employees than we need, but we feel like we are providing needed jobs and don't want to cut anyone out of work just to save a few thousand. If you want to talk about Karma, the girls BF is a drug addict.
I spoke with her last night for around 20 mintues before we went to bed and the topic came up about leaving relationships, and she said that she knows she is not in a good relaionship, but that it's so hard to change from what you know to something unknown, which is true with most people.
The bottom line is if she was actually happy with her BF, I would be a friend and no thing more, I won't die if I don't get her, but she isn't.
Also, I know what I am doing, and i know what I am doing isn't wrong, the whole point of posting this was to show that some people are willing to kill themselves they are so AFC, and make no mistkae, he did try to kill himself becuase of her.
As far as karma, I don't go around intentionally hurting people. Hell, our Board of Directors gets on me and my business partner because we really have more employees than we need, but we feel like we are providing needed jobs and don't want to cut anyone out of work just to save a few thousand. If you want to talk about Karma, the girls BF is a drug addict.
I spoke with her last night for around 20 mintues before we went to bed and the topic came up about leaving relationships, and she said that she knows she is not in a good relaionship, but that it's so hard to change from what you know to something unknown, which is true with most people.
The bottom line is if she was actually happy with her BF, I would be a friend and no thing more, I won't die if I don't get her, but she isn't.
Also, I know what I am doing, and i know what I am doing isn't wrong, the whole point of posting this was to show that some people are willing to kill themselves they are so AFC, and make no mistkae, he did try to kill himself becuase of her.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
also use common sense, if i thought that this guy seriously posed a threat against me, I wouldn't be supid enough to take or mess with his girlfriend. Even if he did, what suberban middle/upper class white college dropout drug addict can get ahold of an AK, in ARKANSAS?
Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
humm... maybe because I DON'T WANT TO.
This "chick" is a one of the best and closest friends that I have, I wasn't bull****ting when I said that.
As far as "everything about this chick says run", what says run? That her BF, not her, but her BF does drugs? That she happened to grow attached to him over a 2 and a half year period, drugs or not? Hell my uncle is a crackhead, and even though I know what he is after when we welcome him in our home, I dont have a cold enough heart to tell him no.
It's good to know the "rules" but you can't live by them, you have to take chances in life. I have the posibility to be really hurt by this girl, but I know her well enough to where I belive without a doubt that she is sincere in what she says, and I like her enough to where I am willing to take that chance. If it doesn't work out... What have I lost? I doubt that we woudl stop being friends if something did happen. I can date and breakup with any woman out there, why not make it someone I actually care for?
This "chick" is a one of the best and closest friends that I have, I wasn't bull****ting when I said that.
As far as "everything about this chick says run", what says run? That her BF, not her, but her BF does drugs? That she happened to grow attached to him over a 2 and a half year period, drugs or not? Hell my uncle is a crackhead, and even though I know what he is after when we welcome him in our home, I dont have a cold enough heart to tell him no.
It's good to know the "rules" but you can't live by them, you have to take chances in life. I have the posibility to be really hurt by this girl, but I know her well enough to where I belive without a doubt that she is sincere in what she says, and I like her enough to where I am willing to take that chance. If it doesn't work out... What have I lost? I doubt that we woudl stop being friends if something did happen. I can date and breakup with any woman out there, why not make it someone I actually care for?
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
It's one thing to have cancer and be on my death bed, but it's an entirely different thing to string myself out on cocaine and OD on asprian because I am getting back at my girlfriend. My gosh use common sense.
Ever sit to think the pain that he has caused her with his drug attiction? One day, not to long ago she said her dad caught him trying to steal his dads watch out of his room and later that night she called me sobbing because her drug addact BF is stealing from her DAD... But I am the one at fault. Please.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
I have had a couple of people email me to ask how everything is working out, so I decided to post an update on what is going on..
Like I said eariler, I run a company I help founded 2 years ago. Her mom owns and runs the biggest hispanic newspaper in our state. She recently introduced me to her mom, and we have been working together on some projects for next couple of months, including her doing a bio on our company and how we help the community, espically the hispanic community (which we do). Also we have a contract in place now to provide computers for her company over the next 5 years. Also I have been working with the girl on her business and showing her the ropes of how to handle general things, espically being because she is going to do things primarly on the internet.
To be honest not much has really happened, mainly because I am not in a rush, and if I were to "take" her, I would want for her to be sure that it was the right decison on the long run, plus this is one of the busiest times of the year for our company and I was tied up all last week.
Anyway, I was at home on Wednesday, pretty early for me, around 5:15, and she calls me, which is odd for a weekday. She tells me she has erends in my area and wanted to stop by. I said okay sure, but while I was changing clothes, I get a phone call from my office and I had to go back because of something that had to be taken care of at the time. She calls me while I am on the road to tell me she is right down the street. I tell her that I am sorry but I had to go back to the office. She says it's not a problem, which it wasn't. she then asks me was I going to be home later that night, because she had something she wanted to ask me. I told her I was going to a bar around 11pm, but I would be free before then.
So she calls me around 7:45 and she asks me would I be interested in donating a computer to a needy family. We set aside a part of our funds for this purpose, so that wasn't a problem. We then talk for a little longer and I get off of the phone so I could take a nap before the night.
She calls me the next day around 5pm and asks me for a favor. Her school registration was due in 45 mintues and she couldn't get in contact with her mom and needed 25% of the funds to register for her classes. I told her not to worry about it, and I came up there to pay the funds. Before you say anything, she wasn't "using me', she paid me back the next day, but because of the situtation she needed the money then and couldn't get it. So as we are talking she asks could she come over my house again, I say in around a hour she could. So she is on he way out the door and her mom calls her to tell her that she has to go the news station to cover for someone else who didn't show. Talk about bad luck. So she calls me right before she is supposed to go on air and we chat for 3 or so mintues, then she says she would call me back after she is done with her newscast.
I went to sleep right aftewards, and was kinda suprised that she didn't call when I woke up the next morning, not that I was hoping that she would, but I kinda just know when to expect a call from her.
What was even more odd is that I didn't get a call from her on Friday. Fridays are by far my lightest day, the only day when I allow myself to talk on the phone at work, and I am usually out of the office by 1pm. She knows this and she usually calls me a couple of times that day for various things (lunch, plans for the night, etc).
Also you have to note that it was raining the night before and it was very slick. Her Car, although very nice, doesn't handle turns well and she has a lead foot. Also I knew she was out of contacts and was driving without any. I seriously thought she had hurt herself, and as the hours passed by I was very worried.
Because her BF was in the hospital, she had his Cell phone with her all of the time, and told me to call her on it. However I knew her BF was due to get out of the hospital soon, so i was hesitant to call her (she doesn't have her own Cell). However by 9pm I was so worried that I decided to call the number, let it ring 2 times and hang up. She would know what that ment.
Later that nigth while I was out, she called me and apologized for not getting back with me, and said that her BF was out and it was pretty funny because she had to talk him out of calling me back. We chatted about various things for around 45 mintues, mostly relationships (we both know each others problems) then I told her I had to go (I had to company coming over later that night).
We haven't really talked since then, but she has shot me a business related email and stated she wanted to see me soon.
As I said, nothing really hot and heavy lately, and I don't expect it to for maybe a week or so, her BF just got out of the hospital. I don't think she wants to leave him because of the whole incident; she was showing me signs, hell probably more, before he was in the hospital, but neverthelss, noone wants to be responsable for someone killing himself, and he did state himself that he thought if "she left me I would have noth ign else to live for". I think they took him to a mental hospital recently, and I sincearly hopes he gets better, that's not a joking matter at all.
We usually do a great job of steering clear of him, she doesn't like to talk about him and her much, unless it's serious. The only thing I told her, and I think I told her once, is that although they have been together 2 years, she is a shell of the person she used to be, which is true. There is no reason to drag yourself though all of this turmoil at such a young age (20) for someone you are not married to and have no kids together with.
I could tell she gets a wee bit jealous when I talk about other women on the phone, and one day she came out and said "what makes you think I am comfortable about hearing about all of the women you deal with?" so after that I am selective of what I would tell her. Also, she used to be open when it came with men talking to her and how many guys like her, but now besides a couple of things I already knew about, she doesn't like talking about guys with me, which I think is a plus.
I have a good general idea on how this whole situtation will play out, if I am right, and I usually am when it comes to women, she is intent on leaving him, but hasn't gathered the courage yet to step out into the unknown yet (kinda like a lot of guys here who are scared to approach women). I think, no I know right now she is just testing me to see if I am a man of my words, and do I act the way I say I do, and we know each other, but have never dated, just like i didn't realize how babish she acts around people she likes until a couple of weeks ago.
The main catch however, and I think we both see and acknoledge it, is that we both like to "test drive" our "cars" before we buy them, if you get what I am saying. However, I don't feel very comfortable making a move on her like that while she is in this particular relationship. she even asked me the other night, could I date a woman that I haven't had sex with. Yeah, I COULD, but I would PERFER to at least try it once. and it's not just about the sex. Just a romantic evening together once too see if it was really there before we jumped into something as serious as would could possibly happen.
Like I said eariler, I run a company I help founded 2 years ago. Her mom owns and runs the biggest hispanic newspaper in our state. She recently introduced me to her mom, and we have been working together on some projects for next couple of months, including her doing a bio on our company and how we help the community, espically the hispanic community (which we do). Also we have a contract in place now to provide computers for her company over the next 5 years. Also I have been working with the girl on her business and showing her the ropes of how to handle general things, espically being because she is going to do things primarly on the internet.
To be honest not much has really happened, mainly because I am not in a rush, and if I were to "take" her, I would want for her to be sure that it was the right decison on the long run, plus this is one of the busiest times of the year for our company and I was tied up all last week.
Anyway, I was at home on Wednesday, pretty early for me, around 5:15, and she calls me, which is odd for a weekday. She tells me she has erends in my area and wanted to stop by. I said okay sure, but while I was changing clothes, I get a phone call from my office and I had to go back because of something that had to be taken care of at the time. She calls me while I am on the road to tell me she is right down the street. I tell her that I am sorry but I had to go back to the office. She says it's not a problem, which it wasn't. she then asks me was I going to be home later that night, because she had something she wanted to ask me. I told her I was going to a bar around 11pm, but I would be free before then.
So she calls me around 7:45 and she asks me would I be interested in donating a computer to a needy family. We set aside a part of our funds for this purpose, so that wasn't a problem. We then talk for a little longer and I get off of the phone so I could take a nap before the night.
She calls me the next day around 5pm and asks me for a favor. Her school registration was due in 45 mintues and she couldn't get in contact with her mom and needed 25% of the funds to register for her classes. I told her not to worry about it, and I came up there to pay the funds. Before you say anything, she wasn't "using me', she paid me back the next day, but because of the situtation she needed the money then and couldn't get it. So as we are talking she asks could she come over my house again, I say in around a hour she could. So she is on he way out the door and her mom calls her to tell her that she has to go the news station to cover for someone else who didn't show. Talk about bad luck. So she calls me right before she is supposed to go on air and we chat for 3 or so mintues, then she says she would call me back after she is done with her newscast.
I went to sleep right aftewards, and was kinda suprised that she didn't call when I woke up the next morning, not that I was hoping that she would, but I kinda just know when to expect a call from her.
What was even more odd is that I didn't get a call from her on Friday. Fridays are by far my lightest day, the only day when I allow myself to talk on the phone at work, and I am usually out of the office by 1pm. She knows this and she usually calls me a couple of times that day for various things (lunch, plans for the night, etc).
Also you have to note that it was raining the night before and it was very slick. Her Car, although very nice, doesn't handle turns well and she has a lead foot. Also I knew she was out of contacts and was driving without any. I seriously thought she had hurt herself, and as the hours passed by I was very worried.
Because her BF was in the hospital, she had his Cell phone with her all of the time, and told me to call her on it. However I knew her BF was due to get out of the hospital soon, so i was hesitant to call her (she doesn't have her own Cell). However by 9pm I was so worried that I decided to call the number, let it ring 2 times and hang up. She would know what that ment.
Later that nigth while I was out, she called me and apologized for not getting back with me, and said that her BF was out and it was pretty funny because she had to talk him out of calling me back. We chatted about various things for around 45 mintues, mostly relationships (we both know each others problems) then I told her I had to go (I had to company coming over later that night).
We haven't really talked since then, but she has shot me a business related email and stated she wanted to see me soon.
As I said, nothing really hot and heavy lately, and I don't expect it to for maybe a week or so, her BF just got out of the hospital. I don't think she wants to leave him because of the whole incident; she was showing me signs, hell probably more, before he was in the hospital, but neverthelss, noone wants to be responsable for someone killing himself, and he did state himself that he thought if "she left me I would have noth ign else to live for". I think they took him to a mental hospital recently, and I sincearly hopes he gets better, that's not a joking matter at all.
We usually do a great job of steering clear of him, she doesn't like to talk about him and her much, unless it's serious. The only thing I told her, and I think I told her once, is that although they have been together 2 years, she is a shell of the person she used to be, which is true. There is no reason to drag yourself though all of this turmoil at such a young age (20) for someone you are not married to and have no kids together with.
I could tell she gets a wee bit jealous when I talk about other women on the phone, and one day she came out and said "what makes you think I am comfortable about hearing about all of the women you deal with?" so after that I am selective of what I would tell her. Also, she used to be open when it came with men talking to her and how many guys like her, but now besides a couple of things I already knew about, she doesn't like talking about guys with me, which I think is a plus.
I have a good general idea on how this whole situtation will play out, if I am right, and I usually am when it comes to women, she is intent on leaving him, but hasn't gathered the courage yet to step out into the unknown yet (kinda like a lot of guys here who are scared to approach women). I think, no I know right now she is just testing me to see if I am a man of my words, and do I act the way I say I do, and we know each other, but have never dated, just like i didn't realize how babish she acts around people she likes until a couple of weeks ago.
The main catch however, and I think we both see and acknoledge it, is that we both like to "test drive" our "cars" before we buy them, if you get what I am saying. However, I don't feel very comfortable making a move on her like that while she is in this particular relationship. she even asked me the other night, could I date a woman that I haven't had sex with. Yeah, I COULD, but I would PERFER to at least try it once. and it's not just about the sex. Just a romantic evening together once too see if it was really there before we jumped into something as serious as would could possibly happen.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
You're skirting dangerously close to the LJBF zone. Make yourself scarce, and don't stop talking about those other girls whether they exist or not, when you do see her.
In fact, if it was me, I'd make certain points alluding to her as being your good friend. LJBF her without really saying it outright. You gotta amp this game up. Don't be so available. Don't answer the phone when she rings for a few days, even a week.
Don't do her any more favours like lending her money, and for pity's sake don't start making excuses for her in your mind as to why she couldn't make it, I.e. her car doesn't handle well in bad weather. If she wants to make time for you she will, and if she doesn't she won't.
In the meantime you are going to stop worrying about this woman and put her on the back burner. Make yourself as scarce as you can outside of the work situation for awhile. This will speed things up a bit, otherwise this whole episode is going to be drawn out into months and you won't have been doind what you are supposed to be doing right now, and that is:
Getting out there and meeting other women and making this person priority number 12 or lower on your list.
P.S. Don't be her emotional tampon with the boyfriend crap. Let her work her own sh*t out. If she stays with him simply because he attempted suicide then I feel sorry for her. Sorry bud, but you are acting 100% AFC with this broad. It had to be said.
In fact, if it was me, I'd make certain points alluding to her as being your good friend. LJBF her without really saying it outright. You gotta amp this game up. Don't be so available. Don't answer the phone when she rings for a few days, even a week.
Don't do her any more favours like lending her money, and for pity's sake don't start making excuses for her in your mind as to why she couldn't make it, I.e. her car doesn't handle well in bad weather. If she wants to make time for you she will, and if she doesn't she won't.
In the meantime you are going to stop worrying about this woman and put her on the back burner. Make yourself as scarce as you can outside of the work situation for awhile. This will speed things up a bit, otherwise this whole episode is going to be drawn out into months and you won't have been doind what you are supposed to be doing right now, and that is:
Getting out there and meeting other women and making this person priority number 12 or lower on your list.
P.S. Don't be her emotional tampon with the boyfriend crap. Let her work her own sh*t out. If she stays with him simply because he attempted suicide then I feel sorry for her. Sorry bud, but you are acting 100% AFC with this broad. It had to be said.
Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
Although you had some good points, I don't really think you took the time to read the post.
First and foremost, I DON'T allow her to talk about her BF unless it's something serious like he hit her or something like that, which isn't often at all.
I DO talk about other woman on the phone, but unlike the past, I don't go into graphic detail like our fav. sexual posiitons as I would have in the past.
And is there anything wrong with caring about the well being of someone? I hope one of you would have the heart to give a damn about me and went missing for a longer time than normal.
Did you not see where I told her I had to leave because I had company? As a matter of fact, that company stayed over my house the entire weekend, and we had a great time.
As far as doing her favors, I am not going to NOT be someone I am to impress someone. Think about that. If you are so shallow that you have to go out of your way to be someone you REALLY are not to get them to like you, what's the point? My ultimate goal in life isn't to sleep with as many women as possible. Hell my best friend and cousin called me on Thursday night and asked for funds to pay a police ticket, because he honestly didn't have the money. I told him I would have someone drop it off at his job tomorrow, and I did. there is nothing wrong with being a nice person, but don't go out of your way to do things you wouldn't normally do.
However, one point you made was pretty nice, and that is the fact that I shouldn't be so available.
First and foremost, I DON'T allow her to talk about her BF unless it's something serious like he hit her or something like that, which isn't often at all.
I DO talk about other woman on the phone, but unlike the past, I don't go into graphic detail like our fav. sexual posiitons as I would have in the past.
And is there anything wrong with caring about the well being of someone? I hope one of you would have the heart to give a damn about me and went missing for a longer time than normal.
Did you not see where I told her I had to leave because I had company? As a matter of fact, that company stayed over my house the entire weekend, and we had a great time.
As far as doing her favors, I am not going to NOT be someone I am to impress someone. Think about that. If you are so shallow that you have to go out of your way to be someone you REALLY are not to get them to like you, what's the point? My ultimate goal in life isn't to sleep with as many women as possible. Hell my best friend and cousin called me on Thursday night and asked for funds to pay a police ticket, because he honestly didn't have the money. I told him I would have someone drop it off at his job tomorrow, and I did. there is nothing wrong with being a nice person, but don't go out of your way to do things you wouldn't normally do.
However, one point you made was pretty nice, and that is the fact that I shouldn't be so available.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
Also, don't you think I know that I am flirting with the LJBF zone.. I mean, we have been true friends for 4 YEARS now. As I stated earlier, I wouldn't mind keeping her around as a friend, I am not desperate for her, but we just get along so well I don't see why wouldn't I give it a chance. WE are attracted to each other and we have alot in common.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
Update:
Not much has really happened with this particular girl for around 3-5 days (however I am getting hit on more and more by this chick that works at the bar I go to often, and another girl I mess around heard from her best friend that i sept wtih her best friend (yes the same girl who told her said that I slept with her, which isn't true) which I though was pretty funny.
Anyway, Yesterday I worked for a long, LONG time, I was the only one at the office for at least an hour and a half, and this girl calls me. She asks what I am doing and I tell her i am working, she said she was on her way home. I honeslty had something to give her, some paperwork I did for her company that she needed to put in safe keeping, so she makes a U-Turn to come and see me, plus we just moved into a bigger building and she hasn't seen the inside yet.
So she gets to my building and I go and unlock the door for her. I tell her since I only had like 5 mintues of work left to wait a sec, so she walks around the building and she was gone for a while, and it's pretty big and confusing so I went to go look for her to make sure she wans't stuck somewhere or messing wtih some thing she had no business playing with.
So I hear something behind me, and I turn aro und and she is sitting there smiling at me, and I held her glance for around 5 seconds. Then we both chuckled and went about what we were doing.
So later that night she calls me right before I get ready to go out, we takl for a quick second, and I told her that if she was still up by 1am, to give me a call (she usually is) because I wanted to talk to her.
She calls me at like 11:15pm asking me some random question and I told her to call back later. So she calls me like at 1:30am, saying she actually set her alarm clock to call me incase she was sleep. She then tells me that she was mad because I didn't call her last night (was in the middle of something)and that she feel asleep with the phone in her hand because she wanted to talk to me, which I thought was cute. anyway, to get to the point of this, she asks me, "what did you want to tell me". I told her, I didn't have anything to "Tell" her, but I did want to talk to her. So we end up playing this cat and mouse game for around 10 mintues and she is begging to for me to tell her something. I told her to "use her imagination". She knows I like her, I know she likes me, If I were to tell her anything, she knew what it would be. So I tell her that if she really wants to know what I have to say, to let me come and pick her up and take her back to my house. By my tone and what we are talking about, it's pretty clear what I wanted, and she said not tonight, because she had to work early in the morning, but tomorrow, which is today she would.
Playing this for all it was worth, I said that's not good enough, and that ovbiously she doesn't want to know what I have to say (remember, I really don't have anyhting to say, but I figured what the hell, I could make up some crap if i had to). Also remember I have a good idea of what she WANTS me to say, that I like her and I want to be with her and all that good jazz, and although that's true, I'll be damned If I gave in now. Plus why should I have to tell her something that is ovbious?
So then she asks me was it bad, and I tell her it would effect her more than me, (considering I was talking about what she though I was, it would, she has a BF, I don't have a GF) and she threw a fit. I then tell her that it's getting late, she isn't coming over and we both have to work tomorrow, so we need to get off of the phone.
However the reason I made this post because 2 years ago, hell 1 year ago, iw ould have told her my innermost feelings, and then wonder why she lost interest soon thereafter.
Also, her hole tone was more like "look, I know what you are going to say, just say it" as apposed to being sincearly curious.
Not much has really happened with this particular girl for around 3-5 days (however I am getting hit on more and more by this chick that works at the bar I go to often, and another girl I mess around heard from her best friend that i sept wtih her best friend (yes the same girl who told her said that I slept with her, which isn't true) which I though was pretty funny.
Anyway, Yesterday I worked for a long, LONG time, I was the only one at the office for at least an hour and a half, and this girl calls me. She asks what I am doing and I tell her i am working, she said she was on her way home. I honeslty had something to give her, some paperwork I did for her company that she needed to put in safe keeping, so she makes a U-Turn to come and see me, plus we just moved into a bigger building and she hasn't seen the inside yet.
So she gets to my building and I go and unlock the door for her. I tell her since I only had like 5 mintues of work left to wait a sec, so she walks around the building and she was gone for a while, and it's pretty big and confusing so I went to go look for her to make sure she wans't stuck somewhere or messing wtih some thing she had no business playing with.
So I hear something behind me, and I turn aro und and she is sitting there smiling at me, and I held her glance for around 5 seconds. Then we both chuckled and went about what we were doing.
So later that night she calls me right before I get ready to go out, we takl for a quick second, and I told her that if she was still up by 1am, to give me a call (she usually is) because I wanted to talk to her.
She calls me at like 11:15pm asking me some random question and I told her to call back later. So she calls me like at 1:30am, saying she actually set her alarm clock to call me incase she was sleep. She then tells me that she was mad because I didn't call her last night (was in the middle of something
)and that she feel asleep with the phone in her hand because she wanted to talk to me, which I thought was cute. anyway, to get to the point of this, she asks me, "what did you want to tell me". I told her, I didn't have anything to "Tell" her, but I did want to talk to her. So we end up playing this cat and mouse game for around 10 mintues and she is begging to for me to tell her something. I told her to "use her imagination". She knows I like her, I know she likes me, If I were to tell her anything, she knew what it would be. So I tell her that if she really wants to know what I have to say, to let me come and pick her up and take her back to my house. By my tone and what we are talking about, it's pretty clear what I wanted, and she said not tonight, because she had to work early in the morning, but tomorrow, which is today she would.Playing this for all it was worth, I said that's not good enough, and that ovbiously she doesn't want to know what I have to say (remember, I really don't have anyhting to say, but I figured what the hell, I could make up some crap if i had to). Also remember I have a good idea of what she WANTS me to say, that I like her and I want to be with her and all that good jazz, and although that's true, I'll be damned If I gave in now. Plus why should I have to tell her something that is ovbious?
So then she asks me was it bad, and I tell her it would effect her more than me, (considering I was talking about what she though I was, it would, she has a BF, I don't have a GF) and she threw a fit. I then tell her that it's getting late, she isn't coming over and we both have to work tomorrow, so we need to get off of the phone.
However the reason I made this post because 2 years ago, hell 1 year ago, iw ould have told her my innermost feelings, and then wonder why she lost interest soon thereafter.
Also, her hole tone was more like "look, I know what you are going to say, just say it" as apposed to being sincearly curious.
TesuqueRed
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You're playing that girl like a violin, keep it up man.
If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
It's been a while isnce I updated this, here you go:
Around 3 weeks ago things were becoming more and more ovbious that she liked me... we hung out every other day, whenever possible, talked on the phone, talked to her parents about me, etc.
One night, I was out at a bar, and she called me. Joking around, I told her I really wanted to talk to her once I left. I guess she thought I really had something to tell her, so she called me back later, at least 2 in the morning, and was begging to hear what I had to say. I started to think she was expecting me to tell her osmething, and when I say something, I mean that I like her, but I wouldn't. So I play along, and say, "you know what I am going to tell you, why do you want me to say it?". She says "because I just do". So we play this game off and on for around a week and a half, and one day while she met me on my lunch break, I told her that I wouldn't mind dating her if the opprotunity arose. She smiled and we talked for around half an hour, but she didn't respond.
Because I wasn't in a hurry, I never really cared that she didn't give me in immidate response, but I wasn't going to let her play like it didn't happen, that's how you erally become LJBF, so I brought it up again, and asked her what she thought about it. She couldn't give me a straight answer for the love of god, so I told her that I would just talk to her later. It pisses me off that we could talk about anything under the sun but when it came up with me and her she was always lost for words.
So I wake up in the morning and she had wrote me a pretty long email, saying how she didn't see me "like that" and wanted to be friends. I said to myself this was the last freaking straw with this chick, friend or not.
It's not that she wasn't interested that got me, I am sure alot of women AREn't interested in me. It was the fact that she lead me on, threw out signals, asked for favors and then acts suprised when she finds out I like her.
Also there is this guy at her job who is 7 years older than her, pretty much a loser by her own accounts, and he literaly stalks her. She is always telling me how she doesn't like him, but yet she said that she considered dating him and wouldnt' consider dating me.
So I wrote this email in response:
First, I ment to tell you, I am not mad/upset/disgruntled in the least bit, even if what I said
isn't true. Real friends don't get mad at each other when you tell them something they don't want
to hear, which Is why I know if we were to date, hypotheticly of course, that whatever happened,
if we were to break up we would be friends afterwards.
Anyway, that's not why I wrote this however. You said something that just baffled the crap out of
me. What does this mean?
Compared to you, I talk less with you about my
'stalker' but you would stop me and bring up an issues such as-- that its
not right that I am paying attention and thinking of his offer but I
recently told you something different directed toward you.
are you saying that you actually considered dating him and that wouldn't consider dating me?
I think I get what you are saying, but I am not completely sure. If that's the way you feel,
that's totally fine, just don't waste my time calling me, being there for me if you aren't
interested in taking it a step father, simple as that. Not saying I don't want to be your friend,
but you have a BF that you are just soo commited to, then you should be with him.
Relationships are a give/take. I give you my time because you give singals sayihng you are
interested. If you are not interested, I don't need to waste my time with you, and I don't mean
that in a bad way, but I would be wasting my time on someone who could care less about me.
You and I met though a mutual friend, and I use that term looosely, Jennifer., After I broke up
with jenn, you and I became pretty good friends, or at least I thought. YOu knew I liked you; you
knew the first time me and you ever spent time together that I liked you because I gavce you a
kiss. At that itme you would belying if you said that you didn't have the same feelings for me or
at least least some feelings at that time. I eventually told you, but you told me that you
couldn't do anything with me because of you friend, which I could honestly understand and I
honestly believe that, although that is not the full reason why, it's a good and legitmate reason.
I don't have to tell you what happend when we stopped talking; it has been said one too many times
and we both know what happended, but how does a friend, a true friend, just flat out LIE to one
antoher? That is what hurt me more than you dating someone; I don't think you understood or still
to this date get it, the fact that you lied to me so easily ment that you never really saw me as a
friend in the first place.
Now If you mean that you are more attracted to this guy then you are to me, then you know what, do
me a huge favor and don't waste anymore of my time. You have mistaken my kindness for weakness one
too many times. you know I would do anything to put a smile on your face, and you don't have a
problem asking for favors from me, and to be honest I really don't mind doing them, but to go so
low as to say that after everything you do for me, after as much time as we spend talking and as
close are we are, you find someone that you consider to be a stalker more attractive, then not
only am I being used, you have to be the most heartless women on earth.
Seriously, that brings back up the question. Why in the HELL did you contact me again back in
march? You knew I liked you. Even if you said you didn't, which I dont believe, you knew 2 weeks
later, you knew again in may and if THAT wasn't enough, you know now. A true friend would pull the
other saide and just say, " I know you like me, and I like you too, but just not like that". But
when you find out you give me the same bull**** "oh, I don't know what you are talking about, I
wasn't expecting it, where did that come from, I am so confused" answer and expect me to live with
it, partly because I have, but not this time. The other day, I told you I was in the mall, I saw a
pink diamond ring that I wanted to buy for you, if I would have actually gotten it for you, you
wouldn't have had a problem whatsoever wearing it, but then if I told you that I wanted to be with
you, you would act like I did something wrong.
The thing is, I am the most dependable person you probably know. Time after time, after you put me
though hell and back, I am there to do any and every thing you ask of me.
That brigns me back to the point... We aren't friends. We never have been. We are aquaintences who
have alot in common. I am someone you think that you call up when you are bored and waste my time,
leading me on and getting me to do thgins to feed your ego. I made the mistake of overlooking the
ovbious because I care about you, but I am much, much too smart for that and i know it.
As this email may sound, I am not mad, I really am not, but I am just going to put up with your
**** any longer, plain and simple. If you want to be my FRIEND, act like it. don't waste my time
talking on the phone as much as you do, taking up my time when you really aren't interested, you
have a BF for that and a" stalker" that you find more attractive then me, put them to use. Don't
through out hints that you are interested if you aren't.
The next day she tried to call me, and act like nothing was wrong. I then told her " Is something wrong". She said "no". I then said " Do you need anything, or did something happen to you?" She said "No". So I told her why is she calling me? I told her to not call me if that's the way she wants to look at me, someone that does things for them, takes up their time, but yet doesn't want to give anything in return.
She then starts to get defensive and says "Well, we have always been like this, and I don't think it's fair that I should have to date you to keep you around".
I tell her "Babe, It's not like it was MY decision to be friends in the first place. I wanted to date you the first time I saw you, I just played along with the whole friends thing becuase of the unique situtation. I wasn't EVER given a fair shot with you for you to make that decision"
I told her I honeslty wasn't mad at her, I was just tired of playing these damn high school games with her and I wouldn't put up with it any longer.
She called me later that night, around 1am to tell me thanks for sending her a BDay card (it was her B-day), and as soon as she tried to start a convo, I told her I had to go, I did have "company" over anyway.
I don't regret anything I have done with her, but I wouldn't do it agian if I had the choice. This girl has to be the most unstable girl I have ever seen. She writes me emails saying how ****ed up her life is and how she wishes she can change it, but yet doesn't do anyhting about it. She is a relationship that she is always saying she doesn't want to be in, yet she is in it. Her and her parents argue every other day, her dad is a whineo and her mom is just dumb. When we are on good terms, she takes up all of my time, and then expect me to be content wtih being friends.
The more I thought about it, I asked myself "what in the hell DO I like about this girl?"... She is THAT damn hot, where it would cause a guy, a reasonably goodl ooking guy who has a couple of female friends in the 7-8.5 range, to over look glaring bad qualities.
Honestly, the thought of dating this girl now repiles me to the point wehre i would kill myself of making such a dumb decision.
Around 3 weeks ago things were becoming more and more ovbious that she liked me... we hung out every other day, whenever possible, talked on the phone, talked to her parents about me, etc.
One night, I was out at a bar, and she called me. Joking around, I told her I really wanted to talk to her once I left. I guess she thought I really had something to tell her, so she called me back later, at least 2 in the morning, and was begging to hear what I had to say. I started to think she was expecting me to tell her osmething, and when I say something, I mean that I like her, but I wouldn't. So I play along, and say, "you know what I am going to tell you, why do you want me to say it?". She says "because I just do". So we play this game off and on for around a week and a half, and one day while she met me on my lunch break, I told her that I wouldn't mind dating her if the opprotunity arose. She smiled and we talked for around half an hour, but she didn't respond.
Because I wasn't in a hurry, I never really cared that she didn't give me in immidate response, but I wasn't going to let her play like it didn't happen, that's how you erally become LJBF, so I brought it up again, and asked her what she thought about it. She couldn't give me a straight answer for the love of god, so I told her that I would just talk to her later. It pisses me off that we could talk about anything under the sun but when it came up with me and her she was always lost for words.
So I wake up in the morning and she had wrote me a pretty long email, saying how she didn't see me "like that" and wanted to be friends. I said to myself this was the last freaking straw with this chick, friend or not.
It's not that she wasn't interested that got me, I am sure alot of women AREn't interested in me. It was the fact that she lead me on, threw out signals, asked for favors and then acts suprised when she finds out I like her.
Also there is this guy at her job who is 7 years older than her, pretty much a loser by her own accounts, and he literaly stalks her. She is always telling me how she doesn't like him, but yet she said that she considered dating him and wouldnt' consider dating me.
So I wrote this email in response:
First, I ment to tell you, I am not mad/upset/disgruntled in the least bit, even if what I said
isn't true. Real friends don't get mad at each other when you tell them something they don't want
to hear, which Is why I know if we were to date, hypotheticly of course, that whatever happened,
if we were to break up we would be friends afterwards.
Anyway, that's not why I wrote this however. You said something that just baffled the crap out of
me. What does this mean?
Compared to you, I talk less with you about my
'stalker' but you would stop me and bring up an issues such as-- that its
not right that I am paying attention and thinking of his offer but I
recently told you something different directed toward you.
are you saying that you actually considered dating him and that wouldn't consider dating me?
I think I get what you are saying, but I am not completely sure. If that's the way you feel,
that's totally fine, just don't waste my time calling me, being there for me if you aren't
interested in taking it a step father, simple as that. Not saying I don't want to be your friend,
but you have a BF that you are just soo commited to, then you should be with him.
Relationships are a give/take. I give you my time because you give singals sayihng you are
interested. If you are not interested, I don't need to waste my time with you, and I don't mean
that in a bad way, but I would be wasting my time on someone who could care less about me.
You and I met though a mutual friend, and I use that term looosely, Jennifer., After I broke up
with jenn, you and I became pretty good friends, or at least I thought. YOu knew I liked you; you
knew the first time me and you ever spent time together that I liked you because I gavce you a
kiss. At that itme you would belying if you said that you didn't have the same feelings for me or
at least least some feelings at that time. I eventually told you, but you told me that you
couldn't do anything with me because of you friend, which I could honestly understand and I
honestly believe that, although that is not the full reason why, it's a good and legitmate reason.
I don't have to tell you what happend when we stopped talking; it has been said one too many times
and we both know what happended, but how does a friend, a true friend, just flat out LIE to one
antoher? That is what hurt me more than you dating someone; I don't think you understood or still
to this date get it, the fact that you lied to me so easily ment that you never really saw me as a
friend in the first place.
Now If you mean that you are more attracted to this guy then you are to me, then you know what, do
me a huge favor and don't waste anymore of my time. You have mistaken my kindness for weakness one
too many times. you know I would do anything to put a smile on your face, and you don't have a
problem asking for favors from me, and to be honest I really don't mind doing them, but to go so
low as to say that after everything you do for me, after as much time as we spend talking and as
close are we are, you find someone that you consider to be a stalker more attractive, then not
only am I being used, you have to be the most heartless women on earth.
Seriously, that brings back up the question. Why in the HELL did you contact me again back in
march? You knew I liked you. Even if you said you didn't, which I dont believe, you knew 2 weeks
later, you knew again in may and if THAT wasn't enough, you know now. A true friend would pull the
other saide and just say, " I know you like me, and I like you too, but just not like that". But
when you find out you give me the same bull**** "oh, I don't know what you are talking about, I
wasn't expecting it, where did that come from, I am so confused" answer and expect me to live with
it, partly because I have, but not this time. The other day, I told you I was in the mall, I saw a
pink diamond ring that I wanted to buy for you, if I would have actually gotten it for you, you
wouldn't have had a problem whatsoever wearing it, but then if I told you that I wanted to be with
you, you would act like I did something wrong.
The thing is, I am the most dependable person you probably know. Time after time, after you put me
though hell and back, I am there to do any and every thing you ask of me.
That brigns me back to the point... We aren't friends. We never have been. We are aquaintences who
have alot in common. I am someone you think that you call up when you are bored and waste my time,
leading me on and getting me to do thgins to feed your ego. I made the mistake of overlooking the
ovbious because I care about you, but I am much, much too smart for that and i know it.
As this email may sound, I am not mad, I really am not, but I am just going to put up with your
**** any longer, plain and simple. If you want to be my FRIEND, act like it. don't waste my time
talking on the phone as much as you do, taking up my time when you really aren't interested, you
have a BF for that and a" stalker" that you find more attractive then me, put them to use. Don't
through out hints that you are interested if you aren't.
The next day she tried to call me, and act like nothing was wrong. I then told her " Is something wrong". She said "no". I then said " Do you need anything, or did something happen to you?" She said "No". So I told her why is she calling me? I told her to not call me if that's the way she wants to look at me, someone that does things for them, takes up their time, but yet doesn't want to give anything in return.
She then starts to get defensive and says "Well, we have always been like this, and I don't think it's fair that I should have to date you to keep you around".
I tell her "Babe, It's not like it was MY decision to be friends in the first place. I wanted to date you the first time I saw you, I just played along with the whole friends thing becuase of the unique situtation. I wasn't EVER given a fair shot with you for you to make that decision"
I told her I honeslty wasn't mad at her, I was just tired of playing these damn high school games with her and I wouldn't put up with it any longer.
She called me later that night, around 1am to tell me thanks for sending her a BDay card (it was her B-day), and as soon as she tried to start a convo, I told her I had to go, I did have "company" over anyway.
I don't regret anything I have done with her, but I wouldn't do it agian if I had the choice. This girl has to be the most unstable girl I have ever seen. She writes me emails saying how ****ed up her life is and how she wishes she can change it, but yet doesn't do anyhting about it. She is a relationship that she is always saying she doesn't want to be in, yet she is in it. Her and her parents argue every other day, her dad is a whineo and her mom is just dumb. When we are on good terms, she takes up all of my time, and then expect me to be content wtih being friends.
The more I thought about it, I asked myself "what in the hell DO I like about this girl?"... She is THAT damn hot, where it would cause a guy, a reasonably goodl ooking guy who has a couple of female friends in the 7-8.5 range, to over look glaring bad qualities.
Honestly, the thought of dating this girl now repiles me to the point wehre i would kill myself of making such a dumb decision.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
Man, you really laid a lot of sh*t on the poor girl. I almost feel sorry for her.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
my advice..never speak to her again..block her emails..and forget about it..but learn from it
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
well, she PUT me though a lot of **** over the last 3 years...
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
I can't do that... mainly because she is soo unstable that there is a 1/10 chance that when she calling me, something is seriously wrong, like her dad is drunk and she is scared to be at home, so I will pick up the phone when she calls, but if she doens't want anything, I wont' talk to her. Regardless if I "like" her or not, I care about her as a person, just like all the rest of my friends, and I don't want to see them get hurt physically.
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