It doesn't get more AFC than this...

[backbreaker]

Okay, I have to give you a little background first...


There is this girl who I have known off and on for around 4 years now. She's a knockout, smart, ambitious and very funny. We have been best friends for around 3 years now, but we stopped talking for 2 years in the middle because we got into a huge arguement and I told her it was pointless to talk to her anymore if we wern't dating, and at the time we wern't for undisclosed reasons.

So this march she writes me a letter out of the blue, lucklily I was smart enough to forward all of my old mail to my new address and asks me to contact her.

So we started talking again and I was pretty happy to have my friend back.

Before I go on, when I say we were friends, we really were. I had other girls I was messing around with, and she was pretty much the same until she got a BF right before we stopped talking. We didn't date because a) The way I met her is I dated her best friend, i think that's self explanatory and b) although I mess around and have alot of female friends, I take dating very seriously. I won't date anyone I dont' think I could marry. Plus at the time I was starting my own company and I couldn't give her the time that was needed. As a matter of fact, thoose 2 years without talkiing to her were just what the doctor ordered.

Anyway, to get to the good part of the story, she won't admit it, but I know exactly why she contacted me, and that's because she is ready or damn near ready to break up with her BF and she had me in mind the whole time as a potential BF.

Over the last 3 or so weeks, definatly in the last 2, things have been... picking up between us. She calls me late at night and we talk about sex alot. I went around 2 months without seeing her, now I see her at least 2 or 3 times a week. She is very curious about the girls I mess around with.

Okay, this is where it gets good. Her BF has a mental disorder, they just found out like 3 months ago. He had just started taking some medication last week, and it takes his sexual drive away. Kat (the girl) called me and out of the blue says she is very horny (we are extremely open with each other, this is nothing uncommon, but nevertheless it's not THAT common). I ask her way and she explains, and tells me that she might have to come and "spend the night with me" . That same night she tells met hat her and her friend were talking about leaving their Currnet BF's and moving on. I listen and I don't comment, because it's not really my place. But I get to thinking, hey, if she is thinking about leaving her BF, I am sure her BF has an idea that her GF is having second thoughts about the relationship, but I put it in the back of my mind.

Now we dont' talk everyday, I wouldn't allow that, so I didn't think anything about not talking to her Friday, I was pretty busy with my friends anyway.

Now Saturday I am at the mall buying some new clothes for my wardrobe and I get a call from a number I have never seen, so I pick up and it's Kat. She asks me where i am and I tell her, we make small talk for a second and she leaves. 5 mintues later I turn around and she is right there. I ask her where she had come from and she said the Hospital. I ask her is everyone okay, and instinctly I start looking for scares or somethingl ike that, thinking she was in the hospial. She said it wasn't her, it was her BF. Get this.. He found out that she was thinking about leaving him, and the Mother****er tried to Kill himself by overdosing on drugs... and would have succedded if she wodulnt' of found him when she did. I could tell she cared, but at the same time she, like me, thought it was very reckless and dumb.

Now I am thinking, okay, what in the hell are you doing up here with me if your BF is in ICU? So she sais that she wants a break from him and wanted to come see me. I didnt' complain, so she went shopping with me and we grabbed some ice cream and she headed back around an hour later... We had 4 "breaks" on saturday, the last one at my house after visitng hours. we were on my couch watching some movie on HBO and after a while we were practically in each others arms, I was rubbing my hand on her thigh, then when I got up to mix me another drink she gave me this "where are you going" look which I thought was too cute. I have a good idea what she wanted, but I wasn't going to do that, out of respect for her BF... I mean, he was on the verge of dying and he is in the hosptial... If I am going to take her, it was goign to be on an equal playing field.

This hole time, I am thinking, this is some wild suff... Not only him trying to kill himself, but her spending damn near as much time with me as with him thoughout the day.

Yesterday, she called me in the morning and said his dad woudl be there today so she couldn't leave like the day before, but she called me 4 times thoguht the day and was going to come over around 7:30 because she thought she had some free time, but turns out she didn't.

I thought that was too wild... How could you Kill yourself over a girl.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

He sounds like a man with some serious issues that she will tire of dealing with soon. He likely has a drug problem to boot. Keep acting like the better man, sounds like you're in like flint - but remain cool. Sounds like it could come your way, just don't force it, let her decide when she wants it, and don't get too hung up on fantasizing about it.

Normally I wouldn't recommend mowing another guys lawn, but he's a druggie, so f*ck him.

 

[backbreaker]

lol, actually you are right, he does have a drug (I think cocaine) problem, she told me about it a couple of times.

I run a computer company (largest in my state), compared to him, who was kicked out of school for his drug habit... not much of a comparasion.

With that said, she has a T-shirt business that she wants to start and she is very excited about it, I am going to help her with it, as far as showing her the legalities of running a company and showing her how to setup contracts and things like that. I told her I was proud of her and that she would make a very good businesswoman, and she would IMHO. She told me she told her BF about it and he said she wouldnt' sucessed so don't try. I think that was probably the turning point.

 

[backbreaker]

Normally I wouldn't recommend mowing another guys lawn, but he's a druggie, so f*ck him. [/B]

I have to use that some time

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
He sounds like a man with some serious issues that she will tire of dealing with soon. He likely has a drug problem to boot. Keep acting like the better man, sounds like you're in like flint - but remain cool. Sounds like it could come your way, just don't force it, let her decide when she wants it, and don't get too hung up on fantasizing about it.

Normally I wouldn't recommend mowing another guys lawn, but he's a druggie, so f*ck him.

BTW, excelent advice and well needed... pretty much the same mistake I made a while back.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Lot of drama here - it ain't all the BF's, either.

Convenient how you could help her in her business. Like, very..

She needs to get out of current situation and land--without missing a beat--with someone else. But that part is pretty transparent.

She sure knows how to play, doesn't she!

Question this -- assume that she goes for what she knows. Obviously, you're next. There's probably something in you that she picks up where she knows she can hook you like her soon-to-be-ex. IOW...you're not a radical step up for her. I'm not saying you're psychotic (or whatever) like him, but you have hooks she can play with for what she needs.

I just see 3-4 redlights here. She's what I call a "siren" - exquisite, deadly...you have to work thru a few of them before you have a chance of resisting them. Or you don't fully resist them, you just make sure you get no more burned than you intended when you decide to play along.

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by TesuqueRed
Lot of drama here - it ain't all the BF's, either.

Convenient how you could help her in her business. Like, very..

She needs to get out of current situation and land--without missing a beat--with someone else. But that part is pretty transparent.

lol, need I say anything!

 

[backbreaker]

well I do know how to run a business, I don't see the big deal. If I knew me I would want me to help me start a business, again I do own the biggest computer company in my state that I started from scratch

 

[squirrels]

This isn't operating against someone with a disadvantage or taking advantage of a girl when she's vulnerable. She's been trying to get away from him even BEFORE the suicide attempt.

Now here's the catch...you have to accept the possibility that you're just being used as the rebound guy. You may have sex with this girl, fool around for a while, but she may just up-and-out one day when she gets back on her feet. Depending on you, that is. Or she could've always harbored a crush for you.

Either way, the point is if you don't f**k her soon, she'll find someone who CAN and you'll be left in the friend-zone. Now what do you want from this girL? Do you want sex? Or do you want friendship? Or do you want an LTR?

You need to decide this before you pick a course of action. Me, I would've been on her by now. But I'm an ass.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Are you sure her boyfriend is some weird drug-smoking loser?

Some girls tend to exaggerate their bfs bad points if they met with another guy.

Your assistance with her company also hit a spot with me. How much help are you providing? If its just advice I suppose it isn't too bad, but if you're giving any finance or getting her into your network then it might be a warning signal.


I probably sound paranoid, and its more of my experience, but whenever "girl" and "business" meet I tend to back out faster than the Iraqi Republican Guard in Mosul.

 

[Capi Crimini]

He had just started taking some medication last week, and it takes his sexual drive away.

Probably Bi-Polar... Mixed with Coke... I'd say **** that **** and stay away... She's dangerous too... But I'd be more worried about a homosuci case... where after he finds out he's so depressed that depression does a 360 flips to grunt anger...

I'll say it again... people who want to kill themselves will do it THE SURE FIRE WAY.

**** builds he does do it the surefire way and click click click bang your all dead.

You got a 75% chance of that happening if he really did do it JUST over that chick... If there were other reasons to you can boot it down... Other factors too.

Keep the rooster in the cage if it's not ready to fight.

 

[Capi Crimini]

I'll say it again... people who want to kill themselves will do it THE SURE FIRE WAY.

Some people consider that "messy" or grunt work... Most people use whats on hand... If they don't have a gun, they go for the pills in the cabnit. I've O'D at least a hundred times. It's less of sucide then just a fun habit... I've learned the exact roots on how to get hi with Aspirin...

Go 72 Aspirin midnight... bout 15-30 minutes you get high... 6 a.m. vomit... If you don't you die. If your vomit doesn't have aspirin flakes you die. I'm 72... figured out my body mass...

As for guns, i've also tried that... I've lost hearing in my ears... cause of it for a week or two. I've jumped from buildings, survived without any harm... I knew a chick who jumped 7 stories and came out with just a broken leg. I' knew a kid who purposely did a backflip off a dresser and landed on his head. Parapalegic. I've known A ton of people who slit there wrists and survive... I belive the rule is you have to cut WITH the vein. If you cut across like most people it will heal itelf... I knew a kid who slit his left wrist twice and right once... then blacked out... none of that ***** **** with razors neither... kid would use a butchers knife. Hack at himself. Whole untire are was covered with criss-crossed random slashes. I knew a girl who scratched her arm to the bone cause she was halucinating bugs on her... scitzo. She was across the hall from me... Pretty as hell girl.... She could have been a model... cept for the halu's. You could hear her at night just screaming... I've seen little kids try to hang themselves.I saw a little kid not 6 bash his head in bloddy running into the wall . I've seen every disease you could think of at it's worse... cept mine... never seen anyone like me in there.

 

[Capi Crimini]

Oh yeah forgot to tell you about the gun... I got an older gun.. I've tried twice with guns... once I never got to shoot at myself cause I got the **** taken away first.

The other time I had an older gun and some older bullets. I tried the first bullet and the thing wouldn't blow the sencond one blew up wrong, I'm not exactly sure what happened... But It didn't fire right. It blew up inside the barrel and the gun gon destroyed... I had little black fragements form the gun powder(?) in my hand. I didn't get one scratch on me. Cept my hearing in my left ear(the side i had the gun to) went dull for a while.

Funniest thing is, In all my suci attempts not once has a person caught me in the action of it. Not that I'm good just that no one notices... I ODeed once, had a fever of 105 halucinating and couldn't move for two days, stuck in my bed, barely semi-concious, and my mom who used to be an RN, didn't even bat an eye.

 

[Titus]

Jesus christ allmighty with stinking socks and a 10 feet long dyck!

The girl is practicaly begging you to take her, while her boyfriend, who "commited" suicide because of her, is lying in a hospital bed, lucky to still be alive???! She needs "a break from him" just when the guys needs her the most??? The most, on the verge of death????

Backbreaker... if you are crazy enough to start something with a person with a conscience like hers... well... just remember that if you will be someday lying somewhere, sick, counting days and just waiting to die on the terminal ward with one last and final wish, to have her beside you, as you go... well, just remember that she might be already sitting on an another guy's dyck at that time. And that is no fukkin joke. If she does it to him, she can do it to you too.


My fukking god... the CONSCIENCE of some people...

*crosses himself*

 

[backbreaker]

To answer some of the qu estions..

This isn't some girl I have just known off and on for a while... We are pretty good friends, and have been for a while. Because we are so much alike and deal with the same issues, I trust her with things that I don't with other people.

About her wanting to leave her BF, she has been "getting around to it' for at least 4 months now, but it's becoming more and more serious as the days past.

As far as the sex, we both LOVE sex, but although I could probably have sex wtih her, she would, and to be perfectly honest, I would perfer to be with someone when I have sex. I 'get around' but just because I have needs, if I had my way, the first time I have sex wtih someone would be when we were together, because it would be alot more meaningful. So to answer your question, If the opprotunity pops up, I would, but I don't think it will because of what I just said.

I really would like a LTR with her... I mean we are friends now. Yes she has her flaws, but who doesn't? I feel more comfortable knowing what they are and knowing beforehand what I have to deal with.

diplomatic_lies, they just checked him into a mental institutation yesterday, I doubt that she is lying about him using drugs. Plus she isn't the one to lie about something is serious as that.

Anyway, what she told me is that the fact that he had just got down using coke less than 24 hours before trying to OD on asprin really put him in a funk and damn near was fatal.

As far as her company, to help her get a ROI as fast as possible, I told her that I would spot her $350 to get 50 Tshirts made, and in return I get 15% of the company and a 15% Interest on the funds I gave her. I coudl care less about the $350, I make six figures, i have spent money on more frivilous items, but It is a sound investment, espically if I can get my hands on it, espically the niche she is going after.

Also, I am the one who gave her the idea of starting her own company.
She really doesn't even want to take the money, but I know she needs it so it's not up for discussion. Plus if it works out, which it should, that's a nice secondary income for me



Capi Crimini , you hit it on the head, Bi-polor with coke and a little weed.

Also, because of how I am, I usually do have s ecurity guard around me most of the times, him harming me is the last thing on my mind.


One last question... Is it possible for 2 people just to like each other without any red flags, or warning signals?

 

[Capi Crimini]

Also, because of how I am, I usually do have s ecurity guard around me most of the times, him harming me is the last thing on my mind.

ROTFL.... People have taken out people far bigger in status then you... Matters on the guy... If he has a strategic or animal mind... or if he's like me and has a mix.

You realize if he did have that kill you mindset... Moneys no problem for him... since he's bout to be dead.

He could really **** you up... plus if he really feels your the reason she left him... He'll probably torture you for a while. Cut you up or some ****.

BUT.... you did say he did coke earlier which means he probably didn't mean to OD... Thats a little strange that he did coke and then Odeed... He was probably coming off his hi got depressed and thought **** it...

i'm not to good with the whole illegal drug arena and how they work... but if he popped some E, acid, or Shrooms that day I'd definatly say that could have been the reason...

But since he is a druggy, he is likely to come after you and **** you up... and if he takes the right **** your body gaurd unloads his pistol into him, less he hits the vital zone he'll still be coming.

Just telling you to watch your back... We don't know these people your talking about... Your the only one who can make the real judgements in this situation.

 

[backbreaker]

thanks for the advice.

You are right, people have taken out bigger people then me, but because I am 21 and make alot of money, and well known around my city and for that fact somewhat around the nation, we have had a number of threats against us, mainly from insecure people our age. Nevertheless, my company pays for it, and I only really use one if I am going out out, not like to the ice cream store or anything like that.

That combined that I am licensed to carry a handgun at all times, and I do carry a handgun at all times, and will use it if necessary, I am not concerned about what he could possibly do to me.

 

[SageOFAllenAge]

Did you ever consider why she hooked up with the soon to be dead/ex BF in the 1st place?

 

[TooColdUlrick]

this is a soap opera. everything about it says RUN. why don't you tell her that you're too busy with YOUR biz to help with hers and that she should hire a consultant. she's using you. she's also using you as an emotional tampon.

i know, you trust her and she's sincere and you've known her for four years. uh huh, right. i have some scrap iron in Paris i'd like to sell you.

you can't trust a chick like this. if you do, you are a fool. you're falling for it, hook, line, and sinker. she's gonna rip your heart out and stomp on it, trust me. what has she done for you, except grace your presence?

yes, you are right, it doesn't get any more AFC than this.

 

[Capi Crimini]

That combined that I am licensed to carry a handgun at all times, and I do carry a handgun at all times, and will use it if necessary, I am not concerned about what he could possibly do to me.

Well Being 21 will give you the no-die attitude.

Where do you work that they provide a bodyguard?

I'm just telling you I wouldn't do it, but its your choice and you obviously ahve a thing for her...

Not really DJ. Sencond no matter what anyone tells you on this forum your still gonna make your owen choice.

What's a handgun gonna do against an Ak?