Is this guy a Don Juan?

pimpfromdayone

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Well, as I always say when dealing with women we want: friends=fuc-ked.
But that only applies to situations where the MAN wants to hook up with the women he is friends with, not the other way around, so there should be no problem with what you're trying to do.

You also say you "like what you have" (the friendship) but you want to date him too. Um, pick one or the other. Obviously, from what you've said, you value hooking up with him more than being his friend, whether you admit to it or not. If you succeed in this, THEN you can try to be his best friend, but you will be more than a friend, but in some cases less than a friend. I think you need to be honest with yourself and get your goals straight.

Why the hell don't you ever invite him over? By him saying that, he doesn't want you to analyze it over and over in your head, it is a call to action! Ask him to come over or hangout sometime, and stop thinking or trying to read between the lines of every little thing. I doubt he is a don juan for "complaining" about you not asking him or even mentioning it, because that is not something we do.... it just sounds weak and shows he cares too much (which for you is good). He doesn't just want to spend time as a friend, but as a boyfriend, and he hates to continually be the one doing the action and asking. I would too. I say again, why do you REFUSE to invite him over? He has given you a big clue and yet you don't even think to follow up on it. Instead, you prefer to think about the simplest line of words ever spoken and wonder if it means something deeper.

Well, that is about all I can do for you, hope it helps some, and, good luck.
 

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I want very much to follow up on his request the only problem is like I feel like I have to pick something that I know he will enjoy thus "entertain" him and at the moment I don't know if he would be happy just hanging out at my house or even just going out to a movie or dinner and just talking. That I just realized is one reason why I let him invite me to do things because I am happy to do whatever as long as we spend time together. We could play pool, poker, or watch tv, or just sit outside and I would be content. But with him I don't know what'd he'd enjoy and when I've asked he's always been you come up with something for us to do.

So what's a girl to do?
 

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Our emails continue sigh...

Me: So I am a strange bird now? Your terminology for me is so endearing. LOL yeah right. I need to come up with some names for you. Actually I can come up with several...

Him: yeah monkey is my personal favorite *rolls eyes* (my name for him)


Me: lol well thats what you remind me of. I can't help it. Would you rather I call you a Greek god?

Him: that would be more accurate... LOL

Me: hmm you'd have to prove that fact first I suppose. ;)

Him: I already have... to a number of women :p

ME: Doesn't count.

Him: it does to me LOL... especially last night LOL
Me:What happened last night?

Him:nothing special... just ****ING AMAZING sex....

Me: with whom?

Him a wonderful person :p
Him You're a very nosey person :p
Me: You volunteered.
Him: I didn't volunteer names though did I ?
Me okay whatever I dont care
Him and you shouldnt LOL
Me: I am glad you find this so amusing.
Him: I do dont you?
Me nope
him Please do explain yourself
Me: Why...its just how I feel
Him People feel things for a reason try to work it out
Me: there is no reason
Him One day I hope you start making sense to yourself.
Me: I know why I do everything I do

Yes I admit it he touched a nerve right there. He could be lying though and sitting there laughing at my response.
 
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DreamyChick

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You all are right. I figured out last night that I have romantic feelings for him (the L word) and there's nothing I can do about it except walk away.
 

pimpfromdayone

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Yeah, the feeling that you have to entertain him is normal, but if he doesn't enjoy just spending time with you, he isn't the man you need, so forget him.
Don't worry, you're not missing much from what I can see in that "conversation" of yours. What kind of a moron comes right out and says he had amazing sex last night? You know damn-well he is lying out his ass just to try to get a reaction out of you. I think it is funny also how you would let a dumbass like this mess with your mind so easily. You don't love him.... the word is infatuation. Walk away, and find someone else. If you didn't live all the way in GA I would be more than happy to "straighten" things out with you. :)
 

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What kind of man comes out and says he had sex? the kind that wants to hurt me and make me get a clue.

Here's the rest of it. It sucks but I am trying to set me free.


Him -are you going to play this game all night or are you going to start communicating...

Me-You dont have to know my reasons. That's all I am trying to say

Him- fair enough :)

Me- But of course you do.

Him- well I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.. or upset you or anything.. you were just asking questions and I was answering :)

Me-I know but you were right I have been in denial. Let's just say I know the truth now

Him- denial about what?

Me- about my feelings of course

Him what feelings? why do you always speak so generally about things?

Me- the feelings where you are concerned. I've been in denial because it was too difficult to see the truth but I've had a revelation and I just can't go pushing them down inside of me because I am selfish and stubborn. Just because I like where we are now in our friendship. No matter how badly I want to be your friend it doesn't matter because you were right when I insisted you were wrong because I just didn't want to see it. Now I know the truth and it hurts that I know, but you were right I can't just go on fighting it and resisting it. It is what it is and right now I can't change it. I feel like I've been lying to myself and I just want to be set free.

He's been asking me for months to reveal my feelings thats what are issues have been about.

The fact is you can't be friends with someone you are attracted to and I was lying to myself and to you all about that. I've been lying to myself for months. When he asked me about my feelings I denied them being there. He told me that as long as I had feelings that would get in the way of the friendship and it has.
 

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Ok... so let me see if I have this right...

you have feelings for me still?
you've decided that you can't escape them?
you've decided that we can't be friends?


Yes to all of your questions. I lied to you months ago when you asked me point blank bc I thought I could be stubborn and keep our friendship and everything would be fine. I convinced myself I was confused as you said so I thought I could carry on, but things have changed and I can no longer pretend that I dont know how I feel. It's been made very clear to me now. On the plus side this affects you very little, so you can go on and do whatever and meanwhile I will be frusterated and mad at myself because I cant control the situation and I can't make things ideal between us where we are just friends having fun. That's what I want, and believe that or not but that has been all I have wanted for so long but you were right it's just not possible, and it tears me up knowing that I have to lose a friend over this and I am pissed but that's life. But I deserve more and I know it and while I have fun with you there is always something keeping me hopeful.Again you were right But then again I am not going to sit here and apologize to you for how I feel nor am I going to apologize for how this will make you want to push me away/put your guard up. That's the whole reason I was in denial because it was unacceptable to you. It was crucial for me to protect our friendship. I thought I could. I mean I felt as though even though we had had so many misunderstandings I felt it was worth it because I finally came to a place where I no longer felt insecure about being myself around you and I felt we made a lot of progress in the right direction getting to know and trusting each other as friends. I felt like there were a lot of special moments that we shared as friends where I thought wow we really are friends. But I always thought this was wrong and I made myself be eat up with guilt bc I had to make things easier for you to deal with. I wanted to be what you wanted me to be so we could be friends.

I know you were in an uncomfortable position that night wondering if I would push things with you, but honestly I didn't really want to jump your bones, but what I did feel is safe and comfortable and good about our friendship that night. That night was more of a wow look how much I've grown to not have to question all that joe does and says towards me. It was an amazing feeling to know that I had reached that place in my heart.

But the truth is sometimes things are out of our hands completely. But I refuse to regret anything I feel or the experience I have gained from this. I've always believed you see me as some some little innocent immature girl well you were wrong.

Because now I am facing this even if it means losing you as my friend. I am facing it as a grown woman. No I know you can't help how you don't feel, and I understand that I do. But I have to own this now. I can't be that little girl avoiding life's tough situations. I have to be someone I can love and respect.What I am doing now is pure courage and heart. I care about you Joe and I am not going to pretend I don't anymore. Yet, I still wish that you could really look inside me and understand where I am coming from. I mean really know how I feel and not be so uncomfortable by it. Thanks for the good memories. Thank you for sticking by me.

I know I am doing the right thing for a change.
 

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Then I asked him if he was going to miss me and he said the only thing he would miss about me was my southern accent "redneck" he calls it.
PWNED
 

DreamyChick

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Originally posted by ikkenai
PWNED
What does that mean?

Also here is his response:

I respect you and your decision. I've always thought it best to be honest about your feelings and intentions.. no matter what.. and I am glad you're doing that now..

All I have to say is I can't believe that's all he has to say about this. Oh well.
 

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Me: hmm you'd have to prove that fact first I suppose.

Him: I already have... to a number of women


HE IS A DON JUAN

go back and read my first post

you have no chance dreamy girl

PWNED = owned = he owns you

and it's true he has you hook line and sinker

you can post all day about walking away but everyone on the forum knows that the more you resist him the greater the attraction grows

you will end up in his bed sooner or later

women are all the same


Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
 

Rollo Tomassi

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I disagree. No DJ plays 'friends' for 3 days, much less 3 years. He may however be an rAFC and falling back on his old game occasionally with her.
 

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See Dreamy was asking guy questions way back in 2005!

What ever happend with this one Dreamy?
 
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