Is this a test ?

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taylor03 said:
i think i may call her on this
What do you hope to accomplish by doing this? Prove to her that it's having it's intended effect? Whether or not she's consciously aware of what she's doing, there is a purpose in doing it. To make you "jealous".

As long as she isn't disrespecting you, just enjoy the ride and keep your options open. Is she not just an FB?
 

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Tazman said:
What do you hope to accomplish by doing this? Prove to her that it's having it's intended effect? Whether or not she's consciously aware of what she's doing, there is a purpose in doing it. To make you "jealous".

As long as she isn't disrespecting you, just enjoy the ride and keep your options open. Is she not just an FB?
True .

"Calling her on it" may indeed give her the satisfaction of believing that Taylor is upset about her oggling TV guys.

There are other situations when it is appropriate to "call her out", but this is not one of them. I am guessing that she wants just such a reaction in order to feed her neurotic lust for sexual power over him.

Unfortunately the OP is dealing with someone who (for her own bizarre reasons) enjoys lighting fires ,and she is using the most flammable material available - their sexual involvement.

I cannot think of one effective strategy to resolve this.
In my experience, continuing to see a woman who throws her sexual romps with other men in your face can cause you significant harm. She is misusing the most pleasurable point of connection, sex, to weild psychological warfare.

In many ways, such a relationship is the antithesis of a true 'DJ' relationship with a woman.
 

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thanks for the help guys

this girl does have some serious issues in hindsight

a failed marriage (with an affair and abortion thrown into the mix), being to open about her past sexual behaviour etc

she has told me that i am the first man who has not jumped through hoops for her - she was used to chumps always doing things for her

example: the first time i banged her she asked me to get a drink and clicked her fingers like i was a slave or something - obviously i stopped in my tracks and told her to get her own drink and hopped back into bed - the look on her face was priceless !!

anyways, this will now become a FB until something better comes along
 

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update

seems Jophil was right on this one - this chick has now started to openly say that she thinks other men are "fit" in front of me - for example, on saturday i took her out for lunch and she kept on staring at this waiter and ultimately blurted out that she thought he was fit - right there in front of me !! should have walked but instead took her back home for some sex

other things are slipping out - she has mentioned in the past (without any prompting from me) that she slept with 25 men in her life saying that "all have been in relationships though" - it now transpires that some of those were ONS - the lengths women go to protect their reputations !!!

the mask of respectability that she has presented to me is slipping away and the slutty life she has led is being revealed bit by bit

how would you guys have dealt with the comment about the waiter though - walked or just played along with it like it was no big deal ???

your comments, as always, are appreciated
 

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taylor03 said:
man should never compromise his standards through fear of not meeting anyone else and being lonely
taylor03 said:
should have walked but instead took her back home for some sex
Once upon a time I encountered a girl who promised to try a new ( for her ) style of intimacy. Once I was at her place she wanted regular sex. I said I was sleepy, and left her in the morning without having sex. Now my fiance has no problem in that department.

taylor03 said:
your comments, as always, are appreciated
You know the answer already.
 

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"Well, call him and see if he has a hot wife. We might be able to work something out."

You're still playing the field, right? I wouldn't sell out on this chick just yet.
 

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taylor03 said:
... on saturday i took her out for lunch and she kept on staring at this waiter and ultimately blurted out that she thought he was fit - right there in front of me !! should have walked but instead took her back home for some sex...
So the disrespect continues...she oggled the waiter and even commented to you that he was "fit" ( womanspeak for fukkworthy )....and to pull her into line you took her home and rewarded her mindfukk with a roll in the hay .

Taylor, What are you doing ?
 

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jophil28 said:
There are other situations when it is appropriate to "call her out", but this is not one of them. I am guessing that she wants just such a reaction in order to feed her neurotic lust for sexual power over him.

Unfortunately the OP is dealing with someone who (for her own bizarre reasons) enjoys lighting fires ,and she is using the most flammable material available - their sexual involvement. I cannot think of one effective strategy to resolve this. In my experience, continuing to see a woman who throws her sexual romps with other men in your face can cause you significant harm. She is misusing the most pleasurable point of connection, sex, to weild psychological warfare.

In many ways, such a relationship is the antithesis of a true 'DJ' relationship with a woman.
This woman has a sadistic streak in her, for sure. To see you squirm makes her feel powerful while you feel powerless. She likes pushing your buttons by using your feelings for her against you.

Useful only for FB relationship. Other than that, you´ll be tortured to no end. Treat her like a sexual object, that´s what she´s been doing to you, give her the taste of her own medicine if you can remain detached. Else, get out and find someone healthier. We have to be able to disqualify a woman as soon as her sickness start showing, no matter how hot she is.
 

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Blue Phoenix said:
This woman has a sadistic streak in her, for sure. To see you squirm makes her feel powerful while you feel powerless. She likes pushing your buttons by using your feelings for her against you.
Yes, indeed .

This behavior is common in BPD woman.
 

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yep your all right and i know it - stupid i didn't walk i know but i kept my cool and let it slide - was probably in response to an earlier comment i made about one of her mates being a bit of a babe

these are childish tit for tat comments - she seems to come back at me with statements that are designed to make me squirm

thats not healthy right ? this a womans powerplay move - not to be outdone in any area, so she ups the ante and turns the screw a little more

jeez what the **** is up with women these days !!

Jophil - BPD ?! why the hell didn't i link this in before - she has all the hallmarks of BPD - adopted , emotionally abusive mother, quite promiscuous etc etc

how should i deal with this ??
 

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jophil28 said:
Yes, indeed. This behavior is common in BPD woman.
Sure, but it could also be a "Sadistic Personality Disorder". The label is irrelevant, what she´s been doing is toxic enough to urge him to put on a Gas Mask Respirator before he gets poisoned!!

http://my-blackberry.net/21__Gas_Mask_Respirator.htm

We have to protect not only our coocks but also our minds and hearts!!
 

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See, this is one of those things I look at as, "This girl isn't ready for a committed relationship". If she's constantly talking about porking other dudes, it doesn't mean I wouldn't hit it myself (with a condom obviously). But I'd note that and continue to play the field until she comes around. If she takes off and disappears...fuggit.

This is one of those situations where ego is blinding the OP, ego that stands or falls on the basis of whether he is able to "hold down a steady girl".

What he should be saying is, "Damn, she's a freak...as long as she keeps putting out I'll keep hittin' it, but let's see what else is out there too. This one doesn't seem ready for the exclusive thing."

Instead he's saying, "OMG is she sh*t-testing me?? What does this mean for the relationship?? I don't want to lose her! I gotta make the right moves here guys!"

This girl has not done anything that makes her worthy of you stressing over losing her. She's a freaky slvt, she loves sex, so enjoy it as long as it's coming your way.

She said it herself...you're throwing a wrench into her works by not acting needy and being strong-willed. So she's upping the ante...playing the jealousy-angle to see if she can get you tweaked.

Let her keep talking that sh!t...the more she does it, the less time you seem to have for her, the more time you spend with other girls. In the meantime, when you get together with her, you're getting what YOU want...sex.

All of this talk about other men should be immaterial to you, because you're NOT looking at her as an "LTR prospect". And the reason you're not doing this is because she has ACTIVELY identified that she is NOT ready for consideration for such a position.

Why don't men LISTEN when dealing with women, instead of just waiting for their turn to speak? You could save yourself a lot of grief and find out a lot more about the women you desire if instead of just waiting to spit out whatever cheeseball line you learned on SoSuave.net, you actually LISTENED to what she was trying to tell you.

And this girl is trying to tell you that she likes you a lot, but she's in a sexually impulsive phase that makes her unfit to commit to one man.

You can call that "BPD" or "bipolar" or "Cluster B", but it's really that simple.

And she'll either get over it or she won't. Either way, it's not worth stressing over. B!tches ain't sh!t but h0es and tr!icks. ;)

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Don't try to fight women on their own level...rise above it and let the storm rage beneath you. Descend only for what you WANT.
 

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taylor03 said:
a failed marriage (with an affair and abortion thrown into the mix), being to open about her past sexual behaviour etc
Dude, this may not say it ALL but it says A LOT (the affair part). Throw in the blatant disrespect about how she would bone this guy and that guy and you have yourself a very low quality women here.

Seems like a pretty open and shut case. Move on now, forget the FB stuff, you already have feelings (if you were not attached, i would keep hitt'n it, why not?). You're bringing yourself down without even realizing it.

my .02
 

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Well, we all agree this gal is not relationship material. However, if the OP is coming out of a divorce, maybe just having fun with this gal is exactly what he needs right now.

These little tests are annoying and childish, and she's doing this to test the OP's confidence. The best thing to do is address the test directly, imo. Ignoring it gives the impression that it's getting to you.

If you are alone with her, and she comments on some guy on TV. Do this, look at her and say "really?". Then move on in, slap her ass playfully, then bang the heck out of her.

If you are at the restuarant, and she comments on how fit some guy is...look her in the eyes with a little smile, say "really? How about that gal over there? She's fit, and has big t!ts too"

Run with it, flip the scrip, take control, have fun, be confident.

Or, you could just stop seeing her. Whatever you do, don't take her too seriously right now.
 

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The problem with the "show that it does not bother you " school of thought is that is it encourages her to amp it up . IT does NOT discourage her . She is doing this for a reason. She wants some kind of reaction from you and she will continue until she gets it.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. The whole "show it doesn't bother you" business does nothing at all to solve the problem. Personally, I would find this behavior disrespectful, especially if it's done repeatedly.

The girl wants a reaction? Does she realize she is pushing you away with this stuff? All she's basically accomplishing is declaring herself as a low quality woman, unfit for a high quality man such as yourself. You think she's giving you a test, but she's giving herself a test, and failing it. I agree all she's doing is revealing herself not to be a keeper.

That said, I don't know what the proper response would be. I would likely just withdraw interest and find someone else. But if you just want to use her for sex, that option is there I guess. Problem for me is, if I know she's not a high quality women, my interest in her will be very low, unless for whatever reason I am extremely attracted to her physically.
 

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If you really like punishment try this the next time she says something about wanting to screw another guy. Laugh and jokingly say, "you're such a filthy tart/ dirty slut!" in a completely joking manner as if you really don't believe it. I bet dollars to donuts she hits the ****ing roof and goes mental. :crackup: I've done it unwittingly before...its pretty funny to watch and a great way to get rid of those types, they can't stand being called what they are even if your joking.
 

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squirrels said:
See, this is one of those things I look at as, "This girl isn't ready for a committed relationship". If she's constantly talking about porking other dudes, it doesn't mean I wouldn't hit it myself (with a condom obviously). But I'd note that and continue to play the field until she comes around. If she takes off and disappears...fuggit.

This is one of those situations where ego is blinding the OP, ego that stands or falls on the basis of whether he is able to "hold down a steady girl".

What he should be saying is, "Damn, she's a freak...as long as she keeps putting out I'll keep hittin' it, but let's see what else is out there too. This one doesn't seem ready for the exclusive thing."

Instead he's saying, "OMG is she sh*t-testing me?? What does this mean for the relationship?? I don't want to lose her! I gotta make the right moves here guys!"

This girl has not done anything that makes her worthy of you stressing over losing her. She's a freaky slvt, she loves sex, so enjoy it as long as it's coming your way.

She said it herself...you're throwing a wrench into her works by not acting needy and being strong-willed. So she's upping the ante...playing the jealousy-angle to see if she can get you tweaked.

Let her keep talking that sh!t...the more she does it, the less time you seem to have for her, the more time you spend with other girls. In the meantime, when you get together with her, you're getting what YOU want...sex.

All of this talk about other men should be immaterial to you, because you're NOT looking at her as an "LTR prospect". And the reason you're not doing this is because she has ACTIVELY identified that she is NOT ready for consideration for such a position.

Why don't men LISTEN when dealing with women, instead of just waiting for their turn to speak? You could save yourself a lot of grief and find out a lot more about the women you desire if instead of just waiting to spit out whatever cheeseball line you learned on SoSuave.net, you actually LISTENED to what she was trying to tell you.

And this girl is trying to tell you that she likes you a lot, but she's in a sexually impulsive phase that makes her unfit to commit to one man.

You can call that "BPD" or "bipolar" or "Cluster B", but it's really that simple.

And she'll either get over it or she won't. Either way, it's not worth stressing over. B!tches ain't sh!t but h0es and tr!icks. ;)

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Don't try to fight women on their own level...rise above it and let the storm rage beneath you. Descend only for what you WANT.

Squirrals said it all.

Putting it bluntly - "you can't make a ho an house wife"

Don't get emotionally invested in this chick, she is a freak ride - enjoy the ride for what it is, you won't change it no matter how much you hammer away.
 

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yep she does come across as a bit of a "freak ride" who is happy to reveal who she has slept with and when it happened - she doesn't really see the danger in offering up this kind of info and instead just says she is being honest !!

she only yesterday told me that she has slept with under 30 men and that she didn't want it to increase as it was a bit "sick" - this girl is 32 - seems even she is a bit disgusted by her own slutty behaviour !! all of this information has been voluntarily given - i have no interest in finding out her past as it can only lead to bad things within a relationship

however, she has also been giving me the double standard take on things ! how come men can sleep around and women can't blah blah....to which i didn't really have a response - not sure you can argue against a statement like that

but as i originally stated this chick has put the hook in me - but as time goes on, and she reveals more and more about her past behaviour, the more it aggravates me

i guess the best way forward would be for me to change my whole mental outlook on the situation ie: treat her as a bit of a "fun" whilst waiting for other better quality women to come along
 

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taylor03 said:
but as i originally stated this chick has put the hook in me - but as time goes on, and she reveals more and more about her past behaviour, the more it aggravates me
"..the more it aggravates me."

Dude, that is her desired reaction. She has you squirming with resentment. Creating that reaction in you is exactly how these women feel powerful.
But you will stay on her hook. Why ? because you are HOOKED on the v-jay .

The next phase, according to Cluster B SOP, is for her to start to become 'unavailable', or she will flake on a planned date, or perhaps she will slowly withdraw sexually . Or she will start to pick fights or criticize you for trivial reasons. Maybe she will date or fukk another guy and slowly reveal all the info to you as a kind of torture.

MY guess is that you are about to be treated to a masterful display of mindfvcking as soon as she KNOWS that you are on her hook and wriggling .
 
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