Is there any reason for optimism in dating?

[lost_blackbird]

If guys notice it, girls will definitely notice it. You need to develop an abundance mindset, and you fake it until you make it.

How does one fake abundance? Is that like when a child has imaginary friends?

 

[DonJuanjr]

Yes, but back to the original point. Are they the women you want?

Every guy can get laid. But very few guys are regularly banging the women they want to be banging.

I agree that when a guy starts out then he should drop his standards a bit so he can get experience. But I'd say after 10-15 lays then it's time to progress to the next level. Otherwise you just become a dog humping lamp posts all day, and you lose respect for yourself.

I don't agree with your definition of incel. So it's irrelevant if my fattie fwb isn't meeting my standards. It will still prevent a part of my masculinity from fading. Maybe @mrgoodstuff idea of something in the phermones is right. I don't know. All I know is, I felt the difference, and another male could sense it from me. I'm still below your leveling up threshold notch count. So I guess I'll continue to be happy being a dog humping posts. As of right now, there is no loss of self respect. Only a retention of a subtle part of my masculinity.

 

[Zimbabwe]

OP makes some good point actually. For the average guy, there is no reason to be optimistic about the future. Retarded optimism is what got us into this mess. It's high time someone said that this ain't good enough.

You're right but what exactly can the average man do, because complaining isn't going to solve anything especially when Simps and Sjws are in such large numbers.

Throughout most of human history the vast majority of men didn't procreate. This suggests to me that throughout human history most men didn't get laid. Especially in tribal times when the alpha dominated the group and monopolized the women.

Most men died while hunting or fighting each other in battles (just look at how many millions of men died in world wars), they are not the same as incels today.

 

[corrector]

You're right. Incels are already spiritually dead because their existence depends on being able to have access to a woman's vagina. It's by having that exact mindset that ensures incel's access will always be very limited. Women want to be with men who don't need them. This is a fundamental truth about the sexes. She wants to feel like she's earned it. She wants to feel like she's won her man over - it's important that a woman experiences this process if you really want to keep her around. If you just want to bang her, then it's important to give her this journey too.

What can most incels do today to change the sexual market place? Stop simping and patrol their fellow male simps too. It has to be a collective male effort. Stop banging fatties. Fat women need to be punished for being fat. It's a woman's job to look as good as she possibly can and take care of herself, but simps prevent that from happening.

In Japan, for example, fat women are bullied and ridiculed. The result? There aren't many fatties in Japan. Although that's probably changing now with Japan becoming increasingly *progressive.

Women work together to achieve collective goals for their sex. Men should do the same (but in a way that is good for both men and women). Everything that incels suffer under now is because of other incels simping and enabling female hypergamy. The social contract up until recently is - 1 woman for 1 man. This stabilizes society and everyone has skin in the game.

It's a pipe dream though, so I'll just continue roaming the wastelands like Mad Max, banging women and try to make the most of the decline.

So @DonJuanjr is a worst incel than I am because at least I am not rewarding fatties by having gay anal sex with them. Him and @mrgoodstuff all advocate dumpster diving because that is their mindset. The problem is they also hit a ceiling too. Its not just a slump buster anymore its more like this is all they can get. A fwb with a fattie is a ceiling not a slumpbuster.

You would think their new status would help them get women they actually like? No their standards will warp down because they STILL cant succeed at cold approach.

 

[DonJuanjr]

So @DonJuanjr is a worst incel than I am because at least I am not rewarding fatties by having gay anal sex with them. Him and @mrgoodstuff all advocate dumpster diving because that is their mindset. The problem is they also hit a ceiling too. Its not just a slump buster anymore its more like this is all they can get. A fwb with a fattie is a ceiling not a slumpbuster.

You would think their new status would help them get women they actually like? No their standards will warp down because they STILL cant succeed at cold approach.

That's where you're wrong. I was a volcel. You're the only incel here who's at his ceiling. Which is no woman. You feel pretty good about that? I know you're jealous of me lowering my standards to end my half year dry spell. Something that you just can't do. Which is why you'll be incel for the rest of your life probably. But hey, you had a good run right? Maybe you can hit up that chick you're still in love with. That woman who doesn't give a shjt about you. That's pathetic. More pathetic than banging fatties if you ask me.

Maybe woman can sense something about you. Maybe it's the same type of vibe females got from Ted Bundy. You know because you like to take creepy pics of them with them not knowing then jacking off to the pics. After which you feel like you own a piece of them. Don't feel too bad about that though. A lot of other guys said they liked to have trophies of women which made them feel like they owned a piece of those females. They were usually serial killers. I guess we can give you a pass on that. Maybe you were possessed by demons. Which you say happens to you. Which oddly enough I think serial killers said that too.

 

[corrector]

That's where you're wrong. I was a volcel. You're the only incel here who's at his ceiling. Which is no woman. You feel pretty good about that? I know you're jealous of me lowering my standards to end my half year dry spell. Something that you just can't do. Which is why you'll be incel for the rest of your life probably. But hey, you had a good run right? Maybe you can hit up that chick you're still in love with. That woman who doesn't give a shjt about you. That's pathetic. More pathetic than banging fatties if you ask me.

Maybe woman can sense something about you. Maybe it's the same type of vibe females got from Ted Bundy. You know because you like to take creepy pics of them with them not knowing then jacking off to the pics. After which you feel like you own a piece of them. Don't feel too bad about that though. A lot of other guys said they liked to have trophies of women which made them feel like they owned a piece of those females. They were usually serial killers. I guess we can give you a pass on that. Maybe you were possessed by demons. Which you say happens to you. Which oddly enough I think serial killers said that too.

That's all you've got?

You've disproved the idea that any slump-buster works to get your mojo going to get hot women. Thanks for letting us know that this type of advice doesn't get hotter girls to notice you and at best all you can get is one Tinder-fattie.

You are not getting anywhere with cold approach period, certainly not any hot girls. Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question. Hot women still don't want you even after your slump-buster.

 

[SW15]

I wonder if one decided on being a lover of married women, this wouldn't matter as much.

I wouldn't recommend that as an general strategy. Basing one's whole approach to game around seducing married women is going to be inefficient at best.

 

[DonJuanjr]

First, I haven't disproved anything. You speak as if I've only ever had fat women. First fat chick. Way more fun in bed than the very skinny chick I was with. But hey, take the advice from a guy on here that has skills/vibe you will never have. Remember for him it's better to jack off than bang a fat chick. He says that knowing he will never face that problem(involuntary celibacy). Yet you are already seven years into inceldom. It's only going to get worse for you. You are hitting an age where your only options are going to be fat chicks. You won't have the vibe to get skinny females. Can't use escorts because...demons.... Might as well marry your hand then. Oh wait... Can't do that you have masturbating addiction problems. So I guess no sexual release for you ever again. Damn that sucks for you.


I worry for the people that frequent malls near you. And females that have the unlucky spotlight of your phone camera.

That's all you've got? You've disproved the idea that any slump-buster works to get your mojo going to get hot women. Thanks for letting us know that this type of advice doesn't get hotter girls to notice you and at best all you can get is one Tinder-fattie.

 

[corrector]

You won't have the vibe to get skinny females.

You certainly don't since you haven't been with one period. Six months, all you get is a fattie from Tinder. Now what do you have to say for yourself?

You are beginning to really get boring. Looks like you got no joy from whatever you got. Look at all you are writing on here just to protect your ego so you think you are one-up on the worst case on this board. That's right, fight for second place loser on this board like your life depends on it.

I'm going to put you on ignore.

 

[DonJuanjr]

You certainly don't since you haven't been with one period.

Okay.... Because you said so...

If you want to be in a gorilla shjt throwing match. I can throw it back too. You're the one who sounds like you're a little too emotionally invested. Everything I said was to caution guys in your position. It just pisses you off. You know deep down what I said is true. When you decide to take me off ignore for the 4th time. I'll be here.

 

[metalwater]

I wouldn't recommend that as an general strategy. Basing one's whole approach to game around seducing married women is going to be inefficient at best.

disagree, it works until the guy gets clipped. sooner or later it will happen.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Touch more on the bait and switch aspect.

Push pull essentially.

The barrier to entry is stupid low. Gen z don't approach in aggregate.

@MatureDJ article shows a example of my competition. Lulz!

&&& I STILL WANT TO LEARN. FILL MY CUP.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Tons of attractive women work as cashiers at convenience stores, cafes, retail... easy pickings.

My man! +1

Spoiler

EVERY SET = PRACTICE! !!

 

[MatureDJ]

Surely wanking is better than banging a fat body? Fat bodies don't illicit anything other than a gag reflex in me so I don't know how men are actually able to hit it. I have very low tolerance for fat too. What I classify as fat, most other men seem to classify as curvy or chubby.

Would you rather hit this or wank?