Is there ANY point to going to a bar/club if you're not very good looking?

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Please someone tell me, tell me your story that you're ugly as sin and go to bars and clubs and pull girls. Please tell me this.

I'm wondering why I bother going out ever week to a bar/club, wasting money, and come home empty handed every single time. This money could be better spent on a hooker.

I haven't gotten laid in 2 1/2+ years without some money changing hands ... I think I'm close to snapping.
 

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Post your pic?

Get in the gym! Are you young? Do you have bad skin? Get your acne cleared up if you have it. Go to a proper hair stylist and get your hair cut real good! Buy some awesome clothes! Industrie is a great brand, not sure if you have it where you live (and DONT order it from the net, the fit is everything when you are buying clothes, u NEED to try it on first)!

I personally beleive ANYONE can become average looking, and with the right attitude can find girls!

Of course it helps if you are good looking, but then again, even good looking people have many wasted nights at bars where you go home with absolutely nothing other than hangover and a hole in your wallet!
 

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Ya I have bad skin, and unfortunately the doctors (I have seen 2 lately) can only recommend Accutane. But I've been on it twice already and it didn't cure it (and has side effects) so really I'm ****ed. Hopefully it goes away soon (I'm close to 27, so its pretty ****ing frustrating to be this age and still dealing with the same **** I was dealing with as a teenager).

I'm thinking of trying acupuncture next. Really, getting ***** on a regular basis would probably cure my acne (since that **** is hormonal). Also it would lower my stress (another cause of acne). Unfortunately the acne isn't helping my ability to get laid.
 

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Start working out bro. You will be amazed at how different woman look at you when your cut!

If your skinny, but on some muscle mass.

And as the other guy said, do all of the above!
 

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Originally posted by bobbob
Ya I have bad skin, and unfortunately the doctors (I have seen 2 lately) can only recommend Accutane. But I've been on it twice already and it didn't cure it (and has side effects) so really I'm ****ed. Hopefully it goes away soon (I'm close to 27, so its pretty ****ing frustrating to be this age and still dealing with the same **** I was dealing with as a teenager).

I'm thinking of trying acupuncture next. Really, getting ***** on a regular basis would probably cure my acne (since that **** is hormonal). Also it would lower my stress (another cause of acne). Unfortunately the acne isn't helping my ability to get laid.
ok, I was on accutane also. I did a LOT of exercise whilst I was on it so I really didnt feel depressed. My acne wasnt that bad when I went on it (just that nothing else worked), but once I was on it for about a month, my acne went real real bad, but I knew it was just short-term!

I did two courses in a row I think! And it pretty much cleared it all up! I went on this other stuff, its like a lotion called clindatech, made of pure alcohol (poison), and it worked wonders! My skin is now like that of a baby, without scarring and real real soft and smooth!

I would strongly recommend you do ANYTHING to get rid of acne! It was the one single most confidence destroying thing I ever experienced!
 

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accutane builds up slowly in your body so you need to be on it for a while, I was on it for 6 months.

like others said, get a hair cut, new FITTING clothes. If you have some clothes that don't fit take them to an alteration shop and get them to fix it.

Work out.

get a teeth whitening kit. fix your teeth up.

get a tan.

make sure you haven't got any hair growing out your ears/nose
if you do then pluck it out. Also make sure you haven't got just one long eyebrow.

and if you've still got loads of money left you can always get a face lift.
 

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Originally posted by nonstop
accutane builds up slowly in your body so you need to be on it for a while, I was on it for 6 months.
exactly!

My skin specialist said that in Australia the treatment is MUCH more effecitve, because you go on the course for twice as long as in the US. He said the US had real poor results, because it takes time to build up in your body and stop the glands that create the grease!
 

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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You guys are supposed to be experienced Don Juans, and you tell this man this type of advice....damn...

Hey bro....run a search and type in under the post a name part: Gunwitch

And look for the post he did on clubs. I ll run a search right now and get the name of it....hold on
 
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Relax dude, I'm a PuertoRican_lover and have been going to clubs for 25 years and "picked up" only three woman at a club!!!!

Club hos should not be your target - most girls you get will be through unplanned interactions that doesn't involve music, grinding, or drugs, or alcohol!!

Live your life and keep your eyes on the peripheral and take advantage of the instances where women will respond well to yuor advances!!

If you are young ACNE is common and you will grow out of it!!!
 

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Its right there....like the third or fourth on down about club methods....just run the search under the name Gunwitch, read that ****, and you will never leave the club alone again.
 

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yeah but gunwitch did a post on just clubbing, its like the third or fourth one down, read that one for the clubs
 

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Gunwitch, I am sure, picks up absolute grime girls! Or average to pretty! I BET he rarely gets the cream of the crop or an abundance of beauties!

Simple as that! Looks DO mean a lot when it comes to girls, as I have experienced both ends of the spectrum!
 

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Looks DO NOT MEAN AS MUCH

DAMN IT!!

If you are not blessed with looks like George Clooney or Denzel Washington, just fix yourself up a little, dont be all dressed like a hag, and thats it. From reading on this site, Clooney, I would believe that you would know better. I mean what the hell kind of advice is this to tell this new guy.
 

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there was an article written about acne i think on this site, some one suggested to use some sort of anti wrinkle cream and it worked cuz it eat away at the top layer of skin or something im not sure i never get spots luckly so didnt pay to much attention.

you will read loads of articles on use moisturisers n lotions etc. these things are not always the best idea especially if you have bad poors. I was my face with cold water only then apply a little bit of moisturiser mixed with water on my face in the mornings. and wash with cold water again at night. from doing this my skin has been far smoother and cleaner looking than when i used to use face washes, tuns of moisturisers, them wierd oxy pads etc.

might be different for every one else though

as for cloths n stuff, these guys have given pretty good advice. FIT is everything.

clubs are easy to pick up hors, most girls who go clubbing are hors looking for a ONS. its your mind set!! i see men go into clubs all the time and come out empty handed and wonder what they did wrong. i used to do this. when you accept the fact the the girls in there are hors looking to f**k and not nice woman with nice personalities that you would like to start an LTR with you will be much better off. approach every girl you find attractive and dont hold back, let your intentions of sexing her be known from your tone, words and body language! im sure you will see a difference. Learn to dance, dancing is the key in big clubs!
 

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Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
Looks DO NOT MEAN AS MUCH

DAMN IT!!

If you are not blessed with looks like George Clooney or Denzel Washington, just fix yourself up a little, dont be all dressed like a hag, and thats it. From reading on this site, Clooney, I would believe that you would know better. I mean what the hell kind of advice is this to tell this new guy.
Good advice!

What do they say? 70% of you is judged simply on your looks! And I can attest to that, if not even a higher percentage!

Fix your exterior up, then see which method of picking up suits you best. This guy needs to get himself together and get confidence, before he tries to become like this Gunwitch fellow. Gunwitch is obvoiusly quiet confident wit his appearance (even though it is obviously lacking in many opinions). This guy obviously has no confidence in his appearance whatsoever, and firstly needs to work on this before he can overcome his state of mind.

I dont know how giving him the advice of a dude that looks like an ogre is going to help him when he has no self confidence in his looks. Especially considering from what I remember reading of gunwitch methods, they are direct and require you be comfortable with yourself first!
 

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by Timothy Tietjen

1) Start eating a nutritious and balanced diet. One that's rich in vegetables, whole-grains, nuts , and lean meats. Eat about 40% protein, 40% complex carbohydrates, and 20% healthy monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats such as those found in nuts like almonds and walnuts. Drink ample amounts of water, around a gallon a day, and ONLY WATER.

2) Begin a strength-training and aerobics excercise program, and possibly a flexability training program such as yoga. Get that ass to the gym. Aerobics training will kill your acne problem when coupled with the proper diet. When you sweat, your body cleanses oxidants and toxins from your body through your skin. Take a hot shower after working out and clean your face with the products I will list below, and you're face WILL clear up.

3) Wash your face with Neutrogena Deep Clean or the generic equivalent twice a day and use a benzoyl-peroxide topical ointment or pad immediately afterward. Use a clay mask 2 or 3 times a week after washing your face. The key to having clear skin is to maintain a proper Ph balance. Too much or too harsh a product will make your skin WORSE. Always use a sun-blocking facial moisturizer such as Cetaphil

4) Wash your body with Cetaphil anti-bacterial cleansing bars. This is the mildest soap on the market and it won't clog pores.

5)Supplements! Start taking a multivitamin everyday, along with Omega 3, 6, and 9 fatty acids. Try and find a supplement that combines all three acids. Anti-oxidants are EXTREMELY important. Take Ginko and start brewing green tea.

For weight lifting, take a whey protein shake once or twice a day and one immediately after working out. Any whey protein will work, but I prefer the Pro Blend 55 because it doesn't fully absorb into your system until 2 or 3 hours later; Most wheys are absorbed immediately. Start cycling a Creatine Monohydrate supplement to give you a serious edge in the gym that can only be experienced to believe.

6) Use a good shampoo and conditioner. For short hair, only use shampoo every two or three days. Make an appointment to get your hair done by an expensive, experienced stylist to find the right style for you. After he works his magic, take a picture of your hair and have someone that doesn't cost as much do the same thing.

7) Start dressing nice. You want something that's classy, clean-cut, and masculine. Some affordable names that I like to shop at are Gap, Abercrombie & Fitch, Hollister, Polo, and Guess. Gap should definately be the backbone of your casual wardrobe because they are comfortable, cheap, and classic. Buy 2 or 3 pairs of good-fitting Low-Rise Boot Cut and Relaxed Boot Cut jeans in different washes. Get a pair of the worn caramel Khakis and a pair of classic Khakis. Start buying t-shirts and polo shirts that are fitted for YOUR frame in comfortable cotton in different styles and colors. Make sure the shoulders match your frame! Buy some button-down collared shirts in different patterns and colors. (Vertical-striped shirts give the illusion that you look taller than you are). Buy a cool, almost casual-looking blazer to throw over your shirts for special occasions.

8) Shoes. The first thing a girl will look at critically are your shoes. Buy a nice pair of brown leather sneakers or loafers. I have a few pairs of Sketchers that were really affordable ($50) and look GREAT. Perfect for casual, semi-formal looks with jeans, khakis, cargos, anything (except shorts). Buy a pair of nice white-based sneakers like K-Swiss, Reebok, or Nike. Nothing crazy and nothing too performance-sport looking.

9) Formal wear. You gotta have a nice, fitted black suit, some dress-shirts with collar stays, silk ties, and sleek black dress shoes. My favorite ties are the Jerry Garcia collection. Awesome ties!

10) Now you just gotta smell nice. For casual days, I prefer not to wear cologne and just a good deodorant like Old Spice Pure Sport. It almost smells like a real sporty cologne and girls seem to love the scent. Axe body sprays and antiperspirant are also delicious.

As far as cologne goes, you should find a nice scent that fits you. You want something that's not too old-school, subtle, and masculine. For casual dinner dates, I LOVE classic Stetson. I have about 3 bottles from the 40's and 50's that smell AWESOME, and if you go to a smoky club or bar with this stuff on, the tobacco smell with the Stetson, ****, it's unbelievably tasty and masculine.

The Safe List:
1) Acqua di Parma
2) Armani Black Code
3) Essenza di Zegna
4) Bond No. 9 Central Park
5) Burberry Brit
6) Obsession Night
7) Aramis Life: My Summer
8) Stetson

This list gives you a lot of variety and the scents are well-accepted standards. Find one you love. Go Light when you put on any cologne; You just want her to notice the scent when she's really close.
 

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I rated poorly on Hot or Not... very poorly...so poorly the rating made me sick and I pulled the picture after twelve hours. I've sent my pic to women while chatting with them, and they abruptly stopped chatting...
But... I've met, dated and even slept with some women that if you had showed me their picture before I ever laid eyes on them and told me I was going to sleep with them, I would have said you're nuts.
Women that I met online, but also at bars, clubs, bookstores, at work...
So... do what you can to improve your looks - easy stuff like grooming and clothes, and then later, the hard stuff like slimming down/muscling up. A lot of it has to do with confidence, but why not go after simple self-improvements in the looks department?
 
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