Is there a pick up artistry style/discipline that involves initiating touch right away?

[Parallelophone]

That seems kind of aggressive, but I feel like I'm ready to roll the dice. Provided this strategy is already detailed in somebody's book or something. If I'm gonna try feeling on women as soon as I meet them, I'd like to know that there's method to this madness.

 

[threeforfree]

In before the restraining orders.

 

[Stanley]

No, but go read mode one

 

[Serenity]

Why though? There's a balance to picking up women, a pace. Your question only comes off as impatient to me and most likely it would be received as impatience or worse if you did it. Too late and you're out, this is true, but so is being too soon.

The idea that kino has to be performed at some arbitrary point in time only shows a lack of fundamental understanding for when to use it appropriately. It can be very effective when applied at the right level, at the right time, but it can be completely counterproductive when applied incorrectly. When is the time right and how much? You'll have to pay attention because it will vary from woman to woman.

The balance is between tension and comfort. Too much tension, too fast and it will make her uncomfortable to the point she just wants to get away, you creep her out. Too little tension, too late and she'll be bored/uninterested and move on. If you go for touching a woman who doesn't know you at all right away, you'll create an uncomfortable level of tension. A little bit of tension makes excitement, a lot makes anxiety, none makes boredom.

What you want is to keep the tension at the level of excitement. As the interaction and time passes she'll grow more comfortable, so you gradually introduce more tension by escalating to stay at that level of excitement. You should pay close attention to where she's at if you want to remain in the sweetspot. If she appears slightly uncomfortable you should dial it back a little and give it a bit of time before advancing again, if it appears her excitement is fading a little you should dial it up a notch. Getting that right is just practice, couldn't teach you this in a forum post even if my life depended on it.

Touching right away will only work in edge cases where the woman happens to be unnaturally comfortable with very rapid advances, but you can't even know if she's such a case if one of your first actions is to touch. As such you can expect a lot of failure doing it, but it might very rarely work out. It's not worth it when the alternative is to start at a more reasonable level of introduction, gauge her and then adjust accordingly.

 

[RazorRambo24]

The most basic form of touch is a handshake. If you know how to initiate interest, rapport , that handshake can be more valuable than any other body language there is.. You ever have a lingering handshake with a girl while you're both making eye contact and feeling each other? .. the kind of handshake that starts at the hands but ends with your fingers still sliding off hers.. like theres some magnetism between your hands and hers? Its hard to describe it if you never had this.. but the lingering handshake is like seduction concentrated into your hands and fingers. and its not used to introduce, but to talk and then be like i'm still here but bye for now or when you find a good time to ask her name.. Last time I did it was at a party.. A few diff dudes tried to capitalize on this same girl but we had more instant rapport.. I can tell she was there because she was single and she wanted to meet a guy for pure romance.. but the lingering handshake was what "sealed the deal".. coming back to her a bit later int he party, we instantly had rapport, made out and i took her home. What my touch and talk suggested ws that i knew what she was there fora nd iw as there for the same thing.. whereas the other guys came off "too cool/cold" and i was as warm as her ***** was moist

I tried looking for a gif of this online but i cant find any.. But just imagine a man and a woman are intently staring at each other and they are shaking hands.. but instead of a firm regular up down shake.. its like the man grasps the womans hand and instead ofthe shake starting and ending there..both hands are lingering in the middle between them, with the fingers crawling across the hands and slowly sliding off one another withusually the index finger slightly curled in the opposite index finger as if both fingers were saying "i dont want to leave ur hand"..

I know this sounds super detailed and corny and isnt something that people plan to do..a nd happens naturally when u have that sexual rapport... I've done it purposely in the past.. but i dropped it as I don't feel the need to consciously use this when not every girl is going to have that same level of interest right off bat.. and its not a good introduction shake but a shake htat u do halfway through creating rapport with the girl-- usually around the point you tell her your name, if you haven't started with your name.. i dont start with the names because its just too formal.. it takes away, i rather build interest first, and then find the name in appropriate time



Handshake is just one.. and the timing and touch is important

The other is the arm around the shoulder aka the lets ditch our friends and get outta here.. This also requires creating rapport.

There's stuff I do at the club but ill just leave it out for now.. since this is mainly about approach in general and not club game..

 

[RazorRambo24]

Dont do that handshake, thats fcking weird dude. You aren’t going to end up in business meetings.
Thats a fcking date where your genitals will be involved sooner or later and not portfolios.
If you wanna do something like that then give her a playful fist bump or high five

No offense, but I don't think you would understand.. Those who know, know. Its not just a handshake, you have to create the rapport first by actually socializing with the woman.. its a point of initating touch that I noticed happens when both you and the chick are sexually interested.. it basically says i know what ur here for and im here for the same thing.. whereas a formal handshake sets a diff framework of "this is a professional encounter"

ofc the prior is something u do in a setting where liquor is flowing, parties, bars, club, outside the bar or nightclub,

and as far as business meetings and portfolios, i have no idea what you're talking about

 

[Stanley]

No offense, but I don't think you would understand.. Those who know, know. Its not just a handshake, you have to create the rapport first by actually socializing with the woman.. its a point of initating touch that I noticed happens when both you and the chick are sexually interested.. it basically says i know what ur here for and im here for the same thing.. whereas a formal handshake sets a diff framework of "this is a professional encounter"

ofc the prior is something u do in a setting where liquor is flowing, parties, bars, club, outside the bar or nightclub,

and as far as business meetings and portfolios, i have no idea what you're talking about

I think you could take it one step further and say eye contact alone 'can' sell it. Had a new girl at work some months back. Just a smile and a headnod at the introduction and you could feel the sexual tension immediately. Few days later get her number, few more days she asks me to ask HER out. Hadn't even been a week, but the initial attraction was there from the getgo. Didn't work out and she got weird and the whole "don't shid where you eat" came into play on my end. The second meeting I gave her high five and the flood gates for her to touch me were opened.

Handshakes are a great barrier to entry. If I have a first date with someone i've yet to meet I can tell right away if there is sexual chemistry. Whether it be by a hug, gesturing her to her chair or giving her a hi five they all should be used to gauge her receptiveness to touch. Once some form of touch is there and the girl is into you you're golden.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I think you could take it one step further and say eye contact alone 'can' sell it. Had a new girl at work some months back. Just a smile and a headnod at the introduction and you could feel the sexual tension immediately. Few days later get her number, few more days she asks me to ask HER out. Hadn't even been a week, but the initial attraction was there from the getgo. Didn't work out and she got weird and the whole "don't shid where you eat" came into play on my end. The second meeting I gave her high five and the flood gates for her to touch me were opened.

Handshakes are a great barrier to entry. If I have a first date with someone i've yet to meet I can tell right away if there is sexual chemistry. Whether it be by a hug, gesturing her to her chair or giving her a hi five they all should be used to gauge her receptiveness to touch. Once some form of touch is there and the girl is into you you're golden.

Interest is interest.. if theres mutual interest, it always ends up in alot of signs/cues. difference between a nightgame and a daygame setting though is, with nightlife, theres usually enough alcohol flowing for both parties to not be at all shy about their interest.. whereas daygame, a girl might be nervous, act shy, while still being interested, she might totally be in her head

touch is a naturally side effect to interest.. with handshakes though.. i dont start with the handshake if im trying to pickup. I think its too formal.. handshakes are best utilized after you first talk to the girl, gauge the interest, flirt a bit, then if u care enough to at some point ask her name.. thats when you introduce the handshake .. the handshake becomes much more telling after a bit of rapport is created. her touch/the way you guys shake their hands, whether it lingers, whether she continues or you continue to hold on to her hand, whether you choose to kiss her hand, thats all more escalation. once you know the interest + the intent.. at that point, you're open to alot more..

ofc when im doing approach, i'm already receiving hella info off bat based on what i say and what i ask her..thats the key for me.. gauging her interest is important.. because if i see weak interest from the start, i dont waste my time lol.. i jus say oh one sec I think my boy just got here..and i jus walk off lol

In approach, especially in night life-- a major component is finding the right targets and not wasting time on the wrong ones

 

[bat soup]

That seems kind of aggressive, but I feel like I'm ready to roll the dice. Provided this strategy is already detailed in somebody's book or something. If I'm gonna try feeling on women as soon as I meet them, I'd like to know that there's method to this madness.

It's called the Doctor Skankypoon method.

 

[Parallelophone]

What are those retarded replies here. Just touch. There is something called social touch. For example you wanna lead her to a direction, touch her and say lets go this way. You like her outfit, take her hand spin her and say you look amazing today.

If you wanna touch her more intimately say im personaltrainer or have experience with that and you can see how her posture is messed up, touch her lower back and Make your way slowly SLOWLY to her upper back and fix her posture, majority of woman have bad posture even if it doesnt seem like that

The most basic form of touch is a handshake. If you know how to initiate interest, rapport , that handshake can be more valuable than any other body language there is.. You ever have a lingering handshake with a girl while you're both making eye contact and feeling each other? .. the kind of handshake that starts at the hands but ends with your fingers still sliding off hers.. like theres some magnetism between your hands and hers? Its hard to describe it if you never had this.. but the lingering handshake is like seduction concentrated into your hands and fingers. and its not used to introduce, but to talk and then be like i'm still here but bye for now or when you find a good time to ask her name.. Last time I did it was at a party.. A few diff dudes tried to capitalize on this same girl but we had more instant rapport.. I can tell she was there because she was single and she wanted to meet a guy for pure romance.. but the lingering handshake was what "sealed the deal".. coming back to her a bit later int he party, we instantly had rapport, made out and i took her home. What my touch and talk suggested ws that i knew what she was there fora nd iw as there for the same thing.. whereas the other guys came off "too cool/cold" and i was as warm as her ***** was moist

I tried looking for a gif of this online but i cant find any.. But just imagine a man and a woman are intently staring at each other and they are shaking hands.. but instead of a firm regular up down shake.. its like the man grasps the womans hand and instead ofthe shake starting and ending there..both hands are lingering in the middle between them, with the fingers crawling across the hands and slowly sliding off one another withusually the index finger slightly curled in the opposite index finger as if both fingers were saying "i dont want to leave ur hand"..

I know this sounds super detailed and corny and isnt something that people plan to do..a nd happens naturally when u have that sexual rapport... I've done it purposely in the past.. but i dropped it as I don't feel the need to consciously use this when not every girl is going to have that same level of interest right off bat.. and its not a good introduction shake but a shake htat u do halfway through creating rapport with the girl-- usually around the point you tell her your name, if you haven't started with your name.. i dont start with the names because its just too formal.. it takes away, i rather build interest first, and then find the name in appropriate time



Handshake is just one.. and the timing and touch is important

The other is the arm around the shoulder aka the lets ditch our friends and get outta here.. This also requires creating rapport.

There's stuff I do at the club but ill just leave it out for now.. since this is mainly about approach in general and not club game..

I'm talking about touching her waist or something.

 

[Stanley]

I'm talking about touching her waist or something.

If you're out on a date and you've established some raport you can put your hand on her waist as you guide her somewhere or to her seat. Again, once you've established comfortable touch things should unfold naturally. Also, if the girl makes an effort to touch you first in any way that is a pretty damn good sign of interest and you should escalate.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I'm talking about touching her waist or something.

nah man i dont try to do no funny stuff like that during Approach. that kinda stuff is more like you're at the bar/club and you already created rapport with a woman, etc.. though it also highly depends on how far it goes lol. some approaches go past just a number close obviously turning into an insta date/ sex close..

you can def do the arm around the shoulder though.. any cheeky thing can preface it.. ive asked a group of girls "which one of you is the single one" and once the girl was like me and her friends pointed to her, i threw my arm around her shoulder like alright "You can be my best friend tonight" lol.. its simple, nothing special pickup but a smile, a laugh, an arm around the shoulder.. and i also figured out shes single and let her know im single too all within seconds..

The more sexually charged the interaction, theres no limit to what you can end up doing though.. i've fingered girls ive just met after turning the approach to an instant date. right in public under the table.. it all depends man .

whatever you do with a woman and touch, its gotta make sense. touching waist is ideal on the dance floor when shes dancing in front of you. most of the time ur not gonna be touching her while dancing but if the appropriate song comes on and shes grinding on u, u gently grab her waist.. sometimes i also like to put a finger through one of the belt loops on her pants while touching the side of her hip. could even pull her by one of the belt loops closer to you. Sometimes even touch her chin with your index and thumb like u gota cute little chin, and pull in for a kiss if the rapport is there..

 

[Parallelophone]

If you're out on a date and you've established some raport you can put your hand on her waist as you guide her somewhere or to her seat. Again, once you've established comfortable touch things should unfold naturally. Also, if the girl makes an effort to touch you first in any way that is a pretty damn good sign of interest and you should escalate.

Not during a date, during approach. When I first meet her.

 

[Stanley]

Not during a date, during approach. When I first meet her.

Nah, do not 'cold touch' a girl. Not until you get some iois. If she touches you have at it.

 

[SW15]

Almost all pickup styles advocate kino escalation either within the first hour of the interaction if trying to get a same night lay or within the first hour of a first date. With that first date kino, that could be from either a first date arranged from some in-person approach or from the social media DMs/swipe apps.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

. But just imagine a man and a woman are intently staring at each other and they are shaking hands.. but instead of a firm regular up down shake..

Eye contact (directed), can be more powerful than any kino if applied correctly.
It both symbolizes and shows that you are and have the confidence which is one of the first things girls look in a guy for and thus can build "report" faster than anything else...

Especially these days where people are so afraid to initiate eye contact and really look the other person in the eyes. You do not see that much anymore. Many just look to the side or way from you.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

You should gauge her body language as you get closer to her. If you can't get within two feet of her without her turning her shoulders and hips away from you, then you shouldn't touch her. Getting close enough to whisper into her ear should be a prerequisite to touch (unless she touches you first). This is why we love mode one since it allows us to weed out rejecters and timewasters with verbal communication. Good luck trying to awkwardly touch a girl who is flat out unattracted to you. Not a recipe for success. When a girl reciprocates your verbal advances, the kino becomes natural and warranted.

 

[Parallelophone]

The thing I want doesn't exist. So I guess I'm gonna have to get the ball rolling. If not write the book itself, get the research underway that the book can be written. On this style of pickup/Don Juanning I want to do.

Picture this. You're at a nightclub. The kind where you sit down and have food/drinks. Your waitress walks up to your table and asks "Are you familiar with the menu?" You smile, reach out, and slowly stroke the area between her waist and the small of her back. "Hey darlin'" you say, or something to that effect.

That's what I wish I could do. And of course have the women be receptive to advances like that. Now I obviously can't go around doing that with no plan, so my research will have to avoid outright experimentation like that.

 

[Fruitbat]

I think that technique is called sexual assault and it’s frowned upon

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Where I can read about this mode on you all talk about?