Is the world upside down?

BaronOfHair

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You are not a healthy person. Every post that challenges you in the slightest is seen as a threat and disregarded - even when those responses are the ones that will help you grow.

You want to exist as a victim in an echo chamber with other victims confirming your worldview that the men who supposedly bully and hate you are only doing so because you are growing above them - yet you're the one here with the dating problems.

You have never described what you MIGHT be doing that offends these people, nor do you describe HOW they're bullying you; one of your posts was about how a gym employee was giving you a tour and "constantly trying to make you look and feel bad" - this is not real, a person like this would be fired. It is in their best interest to show you the positives of their facility so they can get you to sign on.

@AmsterdamAssassin to my knowledge (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) provides counseling/therapy services, and you just called him a bully for asking you to self-reflect. If that is the standard for all these men "bullying" you, then no wonder you deem so many others as "enemies".

You are a toxic person and a perpetual victim. You cannot be helped because constructive criticism is discarded in favor of validation of your current situation.
MGTOW and MRAs have instilled in many men a thoroughly poisonous mindset. The likes of which teaches it's True Believers to perceive any and all encouragement to help themselves in very basic ways as "blaming the victim"
 
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I see that many of you guys think to have "THE ANSWER", and probably you interpret every guy problematic with the same tool: I think tha twhat at the beginning should be a forum to help guys, it became probably a a den of people who believe they have a superior truth and throw the harsh reality in the face of the poor unaware kids. This harsh reality is always that: either it's all your fantasy; you have mental problems; you don't understand anything about life while I do. A forum to boost the ego of a few narcissistic men who understand everything about life, but who have few tools to interpret reality.
 
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yea, this is the way it is sometimes. zekko gave you the answer. what to do about it is what you probably want to ask.

some suggest its in your mind only, while at the same time it can actually happen like you tell. notice how several circle around you to "bully" you even in an online forum....

what you never can know is what is in the mind of them. it could be evil and it also can be them trying to be wise to help you, or they just human like you and have own issues...

regardless the solution is for you and only you to do. if you don't have any other solution do this:

1. lift heavy.
2. join a martial arts gym(boxing, bjj, mma) and force yourself to do it until its fun for you.
3. take a couple of psychology classes. if your budget is small coursera.org has some free ones that are decent good and online.

do these thing and 99% chance you will have a different viewpoint in the future and more self confidence. if you want to do these things and don't know how or how to start probably the men in this forum will suggest how if you ask.
There is some truth in what you said
 

AmsterdamAssassin

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There is some truth in what you said
And a lot of confirmation bias as well.

I see that many of you guys think to have "THE ANSWER", and probably you interpret every guy problematic with the same tool: I think tha twhat at the beginning should be a forum to help guys, it became probably a a den of people who believe they have a superior truth and throw the harsh reality in the face of the poor unaware kids. This harsh reality is always that: either it's all your fantasy; you have mental problems; you don't understand anything about life while I do. A forum to boost the ego of a few narcissistic men who understand everything about life, but who have few tools to interpret reality.
You don't get the answer you wanted. So the people who gave you the 'wrong' answer are all against you. Like the bullies. No, not like the bullies, they are the bullies.

You were offended by me questioning how much of the bullying you experience is real and how much is imaginary, because you think that I think that it's all imaginary while to you none of it is imaginary.
However, all our perspectives are subjective interpretations, and in my experience with PTSD patients, I know that most of their anxieties are imaginary to the point where they cause a disorder. However, everyone is biased and liable to get a disorder if their bias overwhelms their reasoning.

If someone has PTSD from being bullied in high school, they will enter into a new grouping situation (like their new office job where they don't know any of their colleagues) with the negative mindset that (since every group they tried to be a part of they were ostracised) these people will ostracise them. So they expect to be ostracised again and will negatively approach social situations ("these people are only pretending to be nice while planning to bully and ostracise me") and their negativity will turn people off, so people will start avoiding them and once again their bias is confirmed. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
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And a lot of confirmation bias as well.


You don't get the answer you wanted. So the people who gave you the 'wrong' answer are all against you. Like the bullies. No, not like the bullies, they are the bullies.

You were offended by me questioning how much of the bullying you experience is real and how much is imaginary, because you think that I think that it's all imaginary while to you none of it is imaginary.
However, all our perspectives are subjective interpretations, and in my experience with PTSD patients, I know that most of their anxieties are imaginary to the point where they cause a disorder. However, everyone is biased and liable to get a disorder if their bias overwhelms their reasoning.

If someone has PTSD from being bullied in high school, they will enter into a new grouping situation (like their new office job where they don't know any of their colleagues) with the negative mindset that (since every group they tried to be a part of they were ostracised) these people will ostracise them. So they expect to be ostracised again and will negatively approach social situations ("these people are only pretending to be nice while planning to bully and ostracise me") and their negativity will turn people off, so people will start avoiding them and once again their bias is confirmed. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
there is some truth even here, but there is some also in mine I would say
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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I thanks you all to make me realize that I had some BIAS. Yes, with my analist did some work, and we arivved to the point basically you described. Thank and sorry for my aggressivness
 

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This is the men's locker room. Overhere we give each other tough love , uncut and raw truthbombs. You sound like an annoying teenage girl having a period.

I can't imagine any p00sy getting wet from this behaviour. You better be looking like prime Leo if you wanna get away with this...
 
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