Is lack of game just a low IQ problem?

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What IQ Tests aspire to be versus what they are in reality are very similar to places like universities and colleges that rewards pre-defined, narrow forms of intelligence - typically rote learning. Robotic learning. No divergent thinking. No new thought forms allowed.

The issue we have is that we have a society that purposefully rewards and advances non-threatening forms of intelligence, that don't threaten the hierarchy. Guys like Tesla found this out the hard way. If you want to be rewarded and advance in this matrix you have to be intelligent in a way that doesn't upset the power balance apple cart. Otherwise the threatened Alphas that run this matrix will kill you.

Peterson is a perfect example. If he was a real intelligent threat to the system he'd be killed. Peterson is allowed to stay because he operates within the matrix rules, same as the IQ test.
I get what you're saying and my point is in line with what you're saying - the tests themselves are the issue, not the concept of intelligence itself. Tesla was obviously highly intelligent...and I doubt it wouldn't show up in an IQ test.

Your point seems to be a bit off topic, but yes, critical thinking, divergent thinking, rejection of authority, and trusting yourself is definitely not valued. There are plenty of rebels, iconoclasts, cultural critics etc who were never "snuffed out". Can you name any?
 

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Something that I've found through my observations and first hand experiences is that whenever you are on a more extreme side of a given spectrum you tend to have issues/difficulty with that on the opposite side.

Some examples

- Athletes that are very explosive (sprinters, weightlifters, throwers, etc.) will not at all be competitive in endurance sports (distance running, swimming, cycling, etc.).
- People that work a lot and have a lot of financial success more often than not lack a social life. On the opposite spectrum, people that party a lot and live a care free life generally do not do well financially.
- People that are very artistic and creative are often not all that gifted when it comes to analytical type intelligence (math, science, etc.).

From my observations, men that are very intelligent tend to be "in their head" a lot and overthink/overanalyze things far too often. Men like this you can often find in the hard sciences (physics, chemistry), engineering or computer related work. If you've ever met men like this they tend to be quite awkward to say the least. Something else to consider is that many of these types of men would quite honestly be classified as being somewhere on the autistic spectrum. I wouldn't be quite surprised if men that are at a very high level in these fields more often than not have Asperger's. Disregarding social skills, I guarantee you what these men find interesting or exciting would be seen by women as boring or even weird. There's a reason why men like this are often single and struggle with women, none of it has to do with the way they look.
 

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Game has nothing to do with brains. Extremely smart men are usually weirdos and are very good at doubting themselves because they know what they don't know.

Dumber men are affected by the dunning-kruger effect and don't doubt themselves, hence they have better success.
Yup. Men of lower intelligence usually think quite highly of themselves.
Something interesting I read a while ago was that (very)intelligent people are more likely to underestimate their own abilities, intelligence, skill, etc. On the opposite, those that are relatively unintelligent/lower than average are more likely to overestimate their own abilities, intelligence, skill, knowledge, etc. I've actually seen this phenomenon for myself many times in my life.
 

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High IQ correlates well with book smarts. Game is a street smart sport. Same as basketball.
This is a good way of putting it.

IQ is a very narrow measurement of intelligence. Amongst many other things, it doesn't measure for EQ, creativity, machiavellianism and psychopathy (psychos are more objective in their decision making because they are unaffected by emotion or morality).

These are all intelligence traits that predict success with women (Dark Triad) - machiavelli (manipulation abilities), narcissism (self love), and psychopathy (no empathy/no emotions = no simping).

Guys who can build computers can't apply computer-building knowledge to picking-up women. Women aren't machines. So the IQ-smart STEM dudes are in a different intelligence stream. It's like a bee that's adept at hunting the best flower, versus the shark that's adept at hunting the best seal. Different skillsets.
A lot of STEM major guys and some brainy business major guys have a problem with seduction. A lack of EQ is common in types types. Seducation is more based upon EQ.

men that are very intelligent tend to be "in their head" a lot and overthink/overanalyze things far too often. Men like this you can often find in the hard sciences (physics, chemistry), engineering or computer related work. If you've ever met men like this they tend to be quite awkward to say the least. Something else to consider is that many of these types of men would quite honestly be classified as being somewhere on the autistic spectrum. I wouldn't be quite surprised if men that are at a very high level in these fields more often than not have Asperger's. Disregarding social skills, I guarantee you what these men find interesting or exciting would be seen by women as boring or even weird. There's a reason why men like this are often single and struggle with women, none of it has to do with the way they look.
Since seduction is more on the EQ part of it, high IQ guys with limited social skills are going to struggle to get vagina.

The best use of IQ to get vagina is emulate men successful with women. The traits that best translate into getting vagina (at least in the shorter term) are dark triad traits. Narcissism + Machivellianism + Psychopathy. In online dark triad testing, I have scored well in terms of Narcissism and Machiavellianism. I've never scored well on Psychopathy.

What is exciting to young women?
Emotional highs/lows, Height, muscles, visible abs, tattoos, motorcycles, fast cars (many cases), money can be (though some broke tattooed dirtbags get a lot of vagina)
 

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That's simply not true. IQ is a great measure of general intelligence (G). No one with a high IQ can good at everything now, that's why polymaths don't exist anymore. Richard Feynman, for instance, was terrible at writing and English. How it works is that the most intelligent people often specialize in one area, but the sheer brainpower required to excel in in any one area still demands high G.

The issue comes down to the fact that the testing is often myopic, not the actual concept of G.

Jordan Peterson (who is a clinical psychologist, remember) talked about this back in his University lecture days.

Why do you think NFL scouts take great interest in the Wonderlic scores of quarterbacks? Takes a lot of smarts, intelligence and problem solving as a quarterback.
 

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most of who you think are rebels and iconoclasts are actually matrix programs. They are allowed to rebel within the rules of the matrix, so they are approved matrix rebels. The true rebels have been erased from history and you’ve never heard their names.

But to delve any further is getting into true thought crime territory because then we have to talk about who’s doing the erasing and that’s basically not allowed.
Kind of like how certain causes are supposed to be against the system, the man, those in power. And yet are supported and allowed by those groups and rarely truly antagonize them.

Meanwhile even a world leader who goes off script gets banned from international trade.
 

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most of who you think are rebels and iconoclasts are actually matrix programs. They are allowed to rebel within the rules of the matrix, so they are approved matrix rebels. The true rebels have been erased from history and you’ve never heard their names.

But to delve any further is getting into true thought crime territory because then we have to talk about who’s doing the erasing and that’s basically not allowed.
I don't actually know any rebels or iconoclasts. That's why I asked. I cannot think of anyone who was even "silenced" or mysteriously vanished. Some comedians fell into that territory, like Patrice O'Neal, or George Carlin...but they seemingly died of natural causes.

For someone to be a enough of a threat to the system to be killed, surely someone would have known about them, no?
 

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Something interesting I read a while ago was that (very)intelligent people are more likely to underestimate their own abilities, intelligence, skill, etc. On the opposite, those that are relatively unintelligent/lower than average are more likely to overestimate their own abilities, intelligence, skill, knowledge, etc. I've actually seen this phenomenon for myself many times in my life.
Low and average IQ individuals tend to overestimate their IQ; High IQ individuals tend to estimate correctly or underestimate. Multiple studies have demonstrated this.
 

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To answer this we'd have to go into topics that are too extreme for this forum. So I can't really answer you aside saying that the narrative that you have of history isn't necessarily the true story.
I'm all ears. Why not try us?
 

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Ever notice that one couple that is dumber than a box of rusty hammers that always seem happy and having a good time? Yeah I have.
 
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What IQ Tests aspire to be versus what they are in reality are very similar to places like universities and colleges that rewards pre-defined, narrow forms of intelligence - typically rote learning. Robotic learning. No divergent thinking. No new thought forms allowed.

The issue we have is that we have a society that purposefully rewards and advances non-threatening forms of intelligence, that don't threaten the hierarchy. Guys like Tesla found this out the hard way. If you want to be rewarded and advance in this matrix you have to be intelligent in a way that doesn't upset the power balance apple cart. Otherwise the threatened Alphas that run this matrix will kill you.

Peterson is a perfect example. If he was a real intelligent threat to the system he'd be killed. Peterson is allowed to stay because he operates within the matrix rules, same as the IQ test.
Society loves the high IQ geek nerds like Big Bang theory or the walking library nerds that can defend the higher ups like you see in corporations and politics. The other high iq people are labeled threats and seen as villains to society.
 

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Extremely popular and much admired former poster on SS a few years back was a STEM major at one point and was a master of seduction (reading his posts), so not sure if this is true across the board.

I think as with most things it's a balance of high EQ and simply being knowledgeable, not necessarily high IQ because many of those tests determining IQ are faulty anyway.

As a woman, I admire a man having actual knowledge which takes effort -- reading, learning, caring about the world and what goes on within it...

The high EQ gives him an awareness of female nature and the ability to read female language properly which gives him an edge over men with lower EQ.

Knowledge and high EQ = all part of having good GAME I suppose, in male-speak, and in my opinion and experience.

Yes, its definitely not true 100% of the time, but high % of guys in tech do fit a certain stereotype for sure... i;ve worked in the field for 20 odd years.

But you do get some more typical blokes in there too, who treat it more as a profession rather than nerds who've enjoyed tinkering with computers from a young age. Also met some proper alpha types in the field, muscular, confident, charismatic etc, although these are rare.
 

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I'm between average to above average IQ. I'd prefer a dumb girl. Who wants a smart woman?
dumb girls are fine in the sense that you can run rings around them, but they will also be unable to handle finances properly depending just how dumb they are.

Ever notice that one couple that is dumber than a box of rusty hammers that always seem happy and having a good time? Yeah I have.
Ignorance is bliss. High IQ people have lots of extra bandwidth in their head to consider all the possible outcomes, which is probably the source of all anxiety. My gf is pretty damn smart and basically anything that doesn't go according to plan freaks her out and causes her to lose sleep and worry. I basically ignore her when she gets like this because there is no point in trying to help, it'll just make it worse.

Society loves the high IQ geek nerds like Big Bang theory or the walking library nerds that can defend the higher ups like you see in corporations and politics. The other high iq people are labeled threats and seen as villains to society.
High IQ/ Intellectual people are the most likely demographic to believe dumb propaganda and be useful idiots for utopian fantasy ideals. In my experience, they're also the most likely to be bigoted and display conditional/fake compassion.
 

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dumb girls are fine in the sense that you can run rings around them, but they will also be unable to handle finances properly depending just how dumb they are.
Yeah and set your house on fire because they don't know how stoves work

Ignorance is bliss. High IQ people have lots of extra bandwidth in their head to consider all the possible outcomes, which is probably the source of all anxiety. My gf is pretty damn smart and basically anything that doesn't go according to plan freaks her out and causes her to lose sleep and worry. I basically ignore her when she gets like this because there is no point in trying to help, it'll just make it worse.
This is a mid-wit problem. That means basically 99% of universities. My gf is smart and suffers from the same anxiety, but apparently I have a calming effect on her. I wouldn't ignore her outright, I just give her a different energy that she can match and become calmer. When making plans for holidays and stuff she tends to wanna do about double of what is actually possible, I suggest doing less but doing it calmly and with no stress to get to the next thing.

High IQ/ Intellectual people are the most likely demographic to believe dumb propaganda and be useful idiots for utopian fantasy ideals. In my experience, they're also the most likely to be bigoted and display conditional/fake compassion.
Mid-wit issues, for sure!
 

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dumb girls are fine in the sense that you can run rings around them, but they will also be unable to handle finances properly depending just how dumb they are.


Ignorance is bliss. High IQ people have lots of extra bandwidth in their head to consider all the possible outcomes, which is probably the source of all anxiety. My gf is pretty damn smart and basically anything that doesn't go according to plan freaks her out and causes her to lose sleep and worry. I basically ignore her when she gets like this because there is no point in trying to help, it'll just make it worse.


High IQ/ Intellectual people are the most likely demographic to believe dumb propaganda and be useful idiots for utopian fantasy ideals. In my experience, they're also the most likely to be bigoted and display conditional/fake compassion.
I'm not looking to play house with any woman, regardless of intellect.
 
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